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      12-04-2007, 01:09 PM   #23
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you're joking right? muslims invaded iraq and afghanistan and bombarded the hell out of every town?
muslims have F16's?

No joking here. I'm dead serious. People who are ready to apply real physical punishment for naming a teddy bear "mohammned" have no respect and should be called violent. The right question to ask is not do they have F16s, but what would they do IF they had enough F16s?
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she didnt go to teach them. now THAT is bullshit.
she went to CONVERT them. if she went to teach, did she really have to disrespect them? really?!!

WTF do you mean by disrespect? do we live in the stone age? or is it simply very conveniet to be hypersensitive to whatever westerners do?
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No joking here. I'm dead serious. People who are ready to apply real physical punishment for naming a teddy bear "mohammned" have no respect and should be called violent. The right question to ask is not do they have F16s, but what would they do IF they had enough F16s?
they could defend themselves and wouldnt need to have to blow up themselves.

and those british (western) christians crusaders wouldnt dare to go there and disrespect them, and they all would have a relationship based on mutual respect.

how do i know? history!
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WTF do you mean by disrespect? do we live in the stone age? or is it simply very conveniet to be hypersensitive to whatever westerners do?
why would she name the teddy bear that anyway? what's her fucking point? what did she teach those kids by doing that? what purpose does it serve?
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How about this: go to the most crowded spot in downtown and shout something like "Jesus is an asshole and his mom was a slut?" What's gonna happen to you here? NOTHING. Repeat the same experiment in Sudan using Mohammend's name. Do you see the difference? Inflammated ego and stupid adherence to rituals is not a sign of kind and hospitable nation or religion.
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How about this: go to the most crowded spot in downtown and shout something like "Jesus is an asshole and his mom was a slut?" What's gonna happen to you here? NOTHING. Repeat the same experiment in Sudan using Mohammend's name. Do you see the difference? Inflammated ego and stupid adherence to rituals is not a sign of kind and hospitable nation or religion.
well that's kind of dumb. the US is supposed to be a secular country, i.e. there is no law that says that's illegal. but over there, there exists a law that says what she did was illegal. over there she violated the law!!! in here that doesn violate the law.

you dont see british people driving on the wrong side of the road here in the US, do you?

and btw, if i went to a church and said that, i would be killed and stomped on, and YOU KNOW IT. so cut the fucking bullshit about how forgiving and tolerant the christians are. they are not, just not. i dont even think you believe what you are saying right now
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why would she name the teddy bear that anyway? what's her fucking point? what did she teach those kids by doing that? what purpose does it serve?
exactly! bears should not have names. Naming animals is blasphemy.

BTW, she also had a few prior convictions for child molestation using staffed animals.

And her teaching certificate was fake as well.
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well that's kind of dumb. the US is supposed to be a secular country, i.e. there is no law that says that's illegal. but over there, there exists a law that says what she did was illegal. over there she violated the law!!! in here that doesn violate the law.

you dont see british people driving on the wrong side of the road here in the US, do you?

and btw, if i went to a church and said that, i would be killed and stomped on, and YOU KNOW IT. so cut the fucking bullshit about how forgiving and tolerant the christians are. they are not, just not. i dont even think you believe what you are saying right now

I was talking about prosecution by state, not stupid religious morons.
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exactly! bears should not have names. Naming animals is blasphemy.

BTW, she also had a few prior convictions for child molestation using staffed animals.

And her teaching certificate was fake as well.


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but over there, there exists a law that says what she did was illegal. over there she violated the law!!! in here that doesn violate the law.
Interesting point. If you went to Germany in say 1939 and said that all of their supremacy theories are bullshit, I bet that would have been a violation of law punishable by either prison or death camp. Was that a good law?
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Interesting point. If you went to Germany in say 1939 and said that all of their supremacy theories are bullshit, I bet that would have been a violation of law punishable by either prison or death camp. Was that a good law?
as a foreign visitor from another country you have to follow the laws. you have to leave it to nationals and citizens to sort out what laws they want and how they live. you shouldnt try to change that.
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you're joking right? muslims invaded iraq and afghanistan and bombarded the hell out of every town?
muslims have F16's?
I vaugley remember someone flying fully loaded planes into the most populated buildings in the US... if only I could remember who...
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It's easy to see who is more violent just from these replies.
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I vaugley remember someone flying fully loaded planes into the most populated buildings in the US... if only I could remember who...
and is sitting in white house right now
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It's easy to see who is more violent just from these replies.
it's not that im trying to justify it or encourage it... but dude people only see 1/2 of the story + i dont have sympathy of anyone anymore...

idk.... it's a headache to get into a politics/religion debate. im happy with all you BMW fellas

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Mantis.. that makes no sense. I am sure Bush didn't fly the planes...
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Mantis.. that makes no sense. I am sure Bush didn't fly the planes...
to be honest, until this moment i feel there's something fishy about that dude. i cant tell ya the gov't is telling the truth about it, things just dont add up.

there's a lot of "conspiracy theory-ish" stuff out there on it. i just dont buy what the gov't is telling.

but one thing tho.. the whole incident is too high-tech for arabs to do IMO
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As long as I can name my pet George W. and not spend 14 days in jail, this country is ok with me.
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As long as I can name my pet George W. and not spend 14 days in jail, this country is ok with me.


HAHAHA you can name ur pet anywhere in this world after G.W. and i gurantee you, you will not be hated on

but that's too literal.. try doing something disrespectful or offensive. like try go to compton and yell the N-word if you're white.
u'll get 40 bullets instead of lashes, and will be sentenced to death instead of 14 days
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What about the religion that has "convert 'em or kill 'em" in its book?
Blame it or on the fundies?
Have you read the Qur'an or are you simply regurgitating hearsay?

It does not mention that anywhere in the Qur'an. It does mention fighting against those who oppress you and prevent you from worshiping freely, but nowhere does it mention "convert em or kill em".

As a matter of fact, one of the main revolutionary ideas that Islam brought with it (along with a democratic ideology) was religious tolerance (which was not practiced by any other faith at the time). People who lived under Muslim rule (at the time when Islam was in power) were allowed to practice religion freely. They also had to pay a lower tax than Muslims because they did not take advantage of all the facilities that were built for Muslims.

This "convert em of kill em" thing that you speak of would relate more closely to the Crusaders that went across Europe doing exactly that....

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What exactly is "the religion itself?" Where does it exist? In sterile viles guarded by clerics and ministers?
No, it's the religion that is outlined in the Qur'an and the Prophet's Hadith's (sayings which supplement/help us to interpret the Qur'an).
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Where are you getting that non-Muslims living in Muslim occupied territory paid a lower tax?!?!
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Where are you getting that non-Muslims living in Muslim occupied territory paid a lower tax?!?!
Not a Muslim occupied territory...an Islamic state. There hasn't been one for over a thousand years.

The tax is called Jizyah (for non-muslims). Muslims pay Zakat.
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