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      01-04-2008, 10:23 PM   #111
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Ripping people off or making false claims is not good.
How is Terry ripping people off or making false claims??? Neither are true!
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How is Terry ripping people off or making false claims??? Neither are true!
Thats what i wanna know..
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No, I am not Terry but I am a very happy user of the JB2 and have been posting on my experiences with it. All along Terry has provided excellent service and support. I was very happy to see many new customers sharing their similar positive experience with the JB2 and its variations and am distraught at what just happened.
Alright bro, Sorry for coming at you that way. You were just acting a bit sensative there. Its good that he gives you great customer support, however, you shouldnt put shiv down because he's given us procede guys alot of support. He really does care for his product and is very well informed. Just like I really cant talk crap about Terry since I dont have a JB2, you shouldnt talk shit about Shiv or his teams service either.
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How is Terry ripping people off or making false claims??? Neither are true!
That's simply BS and we both know it. Pay that post no attention and move on. Next thing you know you'll be banned for something as trivial as questioning the gentleman.
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Alright bro, Sorry for coming at you that way. You were just acting a bit sensative there. Its good that he gives you great customer support, however, you shouldnt put shiv down because he's given us procede guys alot of support. He really does care for his product and is very well informed. Just like I really cant talk crap about Terry since I dont have a JB2, you shouldnt talk shit about Shiv or his teams service either.
Some of us can speak about Vishnu's customer service as some of us have ordered from Vishnu and failed to recieve our items. And received bogus bs excuses when questioning employees of Vishnu...I digress though.

If you'd like I can share my P.M.'s with a Vishnu rep here on the forum. Just let me know via P.M. or here that you'd like to see them.
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How is Terry ripping people off or making false claims??? Neither are true!
Okay I take that back. He's not really ripping people off, his product price is actually very resonable. However, the false claim this goes back to some of his data that he provides. I havent seen any of his customers post even close to his dyno numbers also the times that hes claiming that the JB2 does is not just with the JB2 and an exhaust which is decieving. Also getting 0-60 in 3.XXX and finding out hes going down hill isnt really cool either.

Anyways, Im sqashing this, cause to be honest it friday night, and Im waiting to go out to the club and I just joined into the argument cause Im killing time. I dont have all night to sit here and debate over terry and shiv.
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Just like I really cant talk crap about Terry since I dont have a JB2, you shouldnt talk shit about Shiv or his teams service either.
+1 I agree man. I am a JB customer as you probably can see, but i have/will never talk shit about Shiv or PROcede b/c i have no authority to. I have never tried out Procede so i cant say anything about it. I would love it give it a try and see how it is. I am sure it is a GREAT tune!! But same thing goes for Procede owners, there is no reason for people starting all this drama when they, themselves, have not tried out the other product. Just my .02cents

PS: Shiv, feel free to send me a free V2 for testing
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Some of us can speak about Vishnu's customer service as some of us have ordered from Vishnu and failed to recieve our items. And received bogus bs excuses when questioning employees of Vishnu...I digress though.

If you'd like I can share my P.M.'s with a Vishnu rep here on the forum. Just let me know via P.M. or here that you'd like to see them.
I have to say I am curious, post them if you like, I can check it tomorrow. Im sorry that you had a tough time with them but I guess our experiences have been different. So did you ever get your product? was it the V2 or something else.
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+1 I agree man. I am a JB customer as you probably can see, but i have/will never talk shit about Shiv or PROcede b/c i have no authority to. I have never tried out Procede so i cant say anything about it. I would love it give it a try and see how it is. I am sure it is a GREAT tune!! But same thing goes for Procede owners, there is no reason for people starting all this drama when they, themselves, have not tried out the other product. Just my .02cents

PS: Shiv, feel free to send me a free V2 for testing
Wow, a Procede user and a JB user agree...I wonder if we can set a trend!
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I have to say I am curious, post them if you like, I can check it tomorrow. Im sorry that you had a tough time with them but I guess our experiences have been different. So did you ever get your product? was it the V2 or something else.
No never received the product and was fed a line of BS from the vendor....

I'll P.M. you so that I can retain my priviledge of posting here on this forum...
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Okay I take that back. He's not really ripping people off, his product price is actually very resonable. However, the false claim this goes back to some of his data that he provides. I havent seen any of his customers post even close to his dyno numbers also the times that hes claiming that the JB2 does is not just with the JB2 and an exhaust which is decieving. Also getting 0-60 in 3.XXX and finding out hes going down hill isnt really cool either.

Anyways, Im sqashing this, cause to be honest it friday night, and Im waiting to go out to the club and I just joined into the argument cause Im killing time. I dont have all night to sit here and debate over terry and shiv.
My JB2HR car went 12.47@111.38. The only mod I had at the time was 18inch Drag Radials. My times were made with 1/2 tank of gas mix of 100oct Sunoco and 93oct BP. I also trapped 112.12 the same day.

Do you think the JB2HR produces the power claimed? Look at the trapspeed. Dynos can be manipulated to say what you want...take a hot towel and and lay it over a certain area of a dynojet 248c...you'll see what I mean. That's why I stay away from Dyno numbers now.

Hell SAE is the regular accepted correction factor. I come here and see people posting STD numbers because it gives customers higher expectations...not real world experience. UTTER BS!
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My JB2HR car went 12.47@111.38. The only mod I had at the time was 18inch Drag Radials. My times were made with 1/2 tank of gas mix of 100oct Sunoco and 93oct BP. I also trapped 112.12 the same day.

Do you think the JB2HR produces the power claimed? Look at the trapspeed. Dynos can be manipulated to say what you want...take a hot towel and and lay it over a certain area of a dynojet 248c...you'll see what I mean. That's why I stay away from Dyno numbers now.

Hell SAE is the regular accepted correction factor. I come here and see people posting STD numbers because it gives customers higher expectations...not real world experience. UTTER BS!
Great, so your JB2HR 335i running on ~ 96-97 octane (mix of 93 octane and 100 octane race gas), driven by you, a self-proclaimed drag racing expert for years, trapped about the same as a PROcede v2 335i running on straight 93 octane pump gas. Good for you. btw -- what was the air temp/R.H. when you ran?
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Great, so your JB2HR 335i running on ~ 96-97 octane (mix of 93 octane and 100 octane race gas), driven by you, a self-proclaimed drag racing expert for years, trapped about the same as a PROcede v2 335i running on straight 93 octane pump gas. Good for you. btw -- what was the air temp/R.H. when you ran?
Great my JB2HR 335i running on 96-97 octane, driven by me; a person that never proclaimed to be a drag racing expert...trapped about the same as a PRocede v2 335i running on straight 93 octane but...and this is a huge "But"... costs oh about 1100 dollars less...and comes with excellent customer service support. Good for me!

The Air Temperature was in the 40's...unaware of the R.H. It rained the night and morning before I made my passes. And MMPS is out in a swamp LOL...but I found it unnecessary to post all of this and just stuck with posting the times as they're the only things that are relevant.

Don't misquote me...I am an avid drag racer. Avid drag racer and drag racing expert are totally different...I expect you to utilize a bit of reading comprehension in the future.
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Great my JB2HR 335i running on 96-97 octane, driven by me; a person that never proclaimed to be a drag racing expert...trapped about the same as a PRocede v2 335i running on straight 93 octane but...and this is a huge "But"... costs oh about 1100 dollars less...and comes with excellent customer service support. Good for me!

The Air Temperature was in the 40's...unaware of the R.H. It rained the night and morning before I made my passes. And MMPS is out in a swamp LOL...but I found it unnecessary to post all of this and just stuck with posting the times as they're the only things that are relevant.

Don't misquote me...I am an avid drag racer. Avid drag racer and drag racing expert are totally different...I expect you to utilize a bit of reading comprehension in the future.
and who are you comparing your time to, another "Avid drag racer"? and what octane where each of you running? A v2 car running 100% tq settings with no other mods on 100 octane will outperform a jbhr with no other mods and 100 octane and i'm pretty sure you know that as you seem to be fairly intelligent in your posts...
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Great my JB2HR 335i running on 96-97 octane, driven by me; a person that never proclaimed to be a drag racing expert...trapped about the same as a PRocede v2 335i running on straight 93 octane but...and this is a huge "But"... costs oh about 1100 dollars less...and comes with excellent customer service support. Good for me!

The Air Temperature was in the 40's...unaware of the R.H. It rained the night and morning before I made my passes. And MMPS is out in a swamp LOL...but I found it unnecessary to post all of this and just stuck with posting the times as they're the only things that are relevant.

Don't misquote me...I am an avid drag racer. Avid drag racer and drag racing expert are totally different...I expect you to utilize a bit of reading comprehension in the future.
Wow, the 40's...nice cool weather to run the 1/4 mi. My runs were done in the mid 70's-80's with high humidity (~ 70%+ R.H.). I wonder what I could trap if I ran in the mid 40's-low 50's...oh well; it doesn't matter.

Not trying to misquote you; I know you have "plenty of experience drag racing."

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...98&postcount=7

I guess other ppl may have said you were an expert drag racer or just a "highly experienced drag racer."
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oh no!! not another Naseem vs. sflgator thread Dont go getting yourself banned Naseem. Jason is on a banning rampage right now. Everyone is on their toes

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LOL...too funny!
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Naseem, i think im going to go get that 100oct tomorrow. Do you know if they will be open?
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Naseem, i think im going to go get that 100oct tomorrow. Do you know if they will be open?
They should be open in the Morning. I'm going to Birmingham and will return in the afternoon.

Get out there and get some gas! I can load up a tool chest in the SUV and bring it along with a jack and the wheels/tires. Let me know!
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oh no!! not another Naseem vs. sflgator thread Dont go getting yourself banned Naseem. Jason is on a banning rampage right now. Everyone is on their toes

No need for it...point was made last time. I licked all of the icing off the cake before I cut it and passed out slices
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Wow, the 40's...nice cool weather to run the 1/4 mi. My runs were done in the mid 70's-80's with high humidity (~ 70%+ R.H.). I wonder what I could trap if I ran in the mid 40's-low 50's...oh well; it doesn't matter.

Not trying to misquote you; I know you have "plenty of experience drag racing."

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...98&postcount=7

I guess other ppl may have said you were an expert drag racer or just a "highly experienced drag racer."

NOOOOO! I'm not going to argue this point with you again...I'll simply say that I went 8.53 bonestock in my 335 in the 1/8th @ 82mph in 75 degree weather and then went 8.53 in the 1/8th @ 83mph in 39 degree weather at two seperate tracks in Alabama.

Enough said right...

If drag racing was all about trapspeed and not about E.T. You'd be the king! I'm telling you man! Trapspeed is a good indicator of the power the car is making...what good is said power if you can't get it to the ground?

I've never heard of a case where John Force and Scotty Cannon made a pass down the track...Force goes 4.80@301 and Cannon goes 5.00@350...and the announcer goes look at that trap speed Cannon put up there. Folks don't give a crap about that! They care about the car that won the race...the one that got there first because it was able to hook up and put the power to the ground!

Stop wondering about what your car would do in this weather and get out to the track. You'll be able to tell us how it runs in "ideal" conditions. What you need to do is factor in the traction issues that you'll fight against when your car is trying to hook up on a cold track...
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What you need to do is factor in the traction issues that you'll fight against when your car is trying to hook up on a cold track...
I heard some JB2HR 335i's went to the track this past Wed. night when it was the coldest day/night of the year; it was in the mid-upper 30's, and they couldn't get any traction since the track was too cold. It sounds like the "ideal" weather conditions for the 1/4 mi. track are in the upper 40's-low 50's with low humidity.
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