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      04-14-2006, 10:28 AM   #1
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6spd drivers...can you teach me to take off?

I have the e90 330i, 6spd manual. I'm not sure of the exact procedure to "take off" so to say from a dead stop. For example, how much do I rev the engine before dropping the clutch in first, and when I drop the clutch do I gradually take my foot off or just let it go totally? Also, when I am letting go of the clutch, do I add more gas and how much so?

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I have the e90 330i, 6spd manual. I'm not sure of the exact procedure to "take off" so to say from a dead stop. For example, how much do I rev the engine before dropping the clutch in first, and when I drop the clutch do I gradually take my foot off or just let it go totally? Also, when I am letting go of the clutch, do I add more gas and how much so?

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The answer is in your question already. Normally you don't have to rev it before take off(just a bit) and then gradually take your foot off(you should feel it) and then add a bit more gas(just feel the mechanical 'things' by practising a lot)

When going lunatic:
Rev it to 4/5000 dump the clutch and floor it(First shut DTC/DSC off for some smoking )

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Don't actually rev and dump the clutch, that is not really a take off, it's more a surge of torque that will have you kiss goodbye to your tyres very quickly.

Just weld the throttle to the floor, at the same time gently raise the clutch smoothly through the biting point before the revs build up too much, the time it takes for you to lift the clutch is enough allowance for the revs to build up - and you'll get a swift and tidy start. It takes practice, but what doesn't?

Switch the DSC off and you'll notice less reluctancy during take off but my advice is not to turn all aids off unless you're off road with nothing around - always good to have a backup
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Exactly, a burn out and a fast launch are two seperate things. You want as much traction as possible when you want to take off fast. If you just want a new pair of tires and cant figure out what to do with the old one's then commence clutch dumping.


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What RR said.
Do it quick, fast, and smoothly.
No herky-jerky or you'll lose traction and momentum.
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It is an art my friend, and it takes much practice. I guess I need to ask how fast you want to take off. For a normal everyday take off, I can do it smoothly by bringing the rpm to 1000. Usually no more than 2000 for a pretty fast take off where you are easy with the clutch until you release it and then just mash the throttle. For those times where you need to race G35, then like robin hood says, take it up for 4500, take off the DSC, DTC, drop the clutch (but you still have to manipulate the throttle) and watch your tires and clutch smoke for a block.
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Keep the throttle in the same position, and use the CLUTCH to modulate your launch. Feather it, don't dump.
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If your looking for control, get engagement at a lower rpm (3k or so) and floor it from there. Your looking to keep your traction in a launch, so make sure you do so.

Also, be good at your shifts. If your looking for 0-60's or something of that nature, get better at your 1-2 shifts. Much time can be lost at that shift....
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I have the e90 330i, 6spd manual. I'm not sure of the exact procedure to "take off" so to say from a dead stop. For example, how much do I rev the engine before dropping the clutch in first, and when I drop the clutch do I gradually take my foot off or just let it go totally? Also, when I am letting go of the clutch, do I add more gas and how much so?

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Since this is your first stick shift car, that's quite excellent. Congrats. I've driven lots of them and this is by far one of the easiest to drive. If you ever have an opportunity to see a clutch assembly, it will help you. Pressure plate, clutch disk and throwout bearing. In a manual transmission car, you have in essense a direct drive system. Manuals are more efficient at transferring power from the engine to the wheels because there is no torque converter as is the case with automatic transmissions. That's why automatics are sometimes called slushboxes.

The idea is to get on and off the clutch as fast as you can. If you leave the clutch in an interim position for too long, you will wear out the material on the clutch disk. Eventually you will have no material to grip the flywheel and your car won't move. You'll know you're doing something wrong if you smell the clutch disk or see smoke.

Driving a stick requires nothing more than a lot of practice. This car launches very easily at low RPMs, but you can stall it if you're not careful to apply some throttle. As other posters said, you can make the car launch very quickly if you rev higher. Again, the clutch assembly is a wear item but in normal use you can easily get over 200K miles out of it.
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What does feather the clutch mean?
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The very first thing that you need to know is to find out where is the pick up point. The position of the clutch where the clutch plates start to engauge. You can tell by pull the hand break, press the clutch, put it in 1st gear, rev the engine to 3000 rpm, start releasing the clutch slowly until you can feel the car is lurging forward and this is the pick up point. You should pratice this in a fashion to release the cluth quickly untill you hit that pick up point; and keep doing it until you are good at it. Then, release the hand brake, and start to release the clutch quickly to the pick up point, then keep the engine reving and release the clutch slowly at the same time to move the car. The key think is to keep the engine reving by pressing the gas pedal, and releasing the clutch slowly at the same time. It usually take about 1-4 weeks to perfect the skill and good luck.
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What does feather the clutch mean?
Letting out the clutch progressively, instead of dumping it.
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Someone search Artz 330. he had a post on how to launch properly.
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Someone search Artz 330. he had a post on how to launch properly.
lol, yeah because he's the only one who's made a post on how to launch properly.
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lol, yeah because he's the only one who's made a post on how to launch properly.
Folks, This is not rocket science. It is a car with a manual transmission.
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Folks, This is not rocket science. It is a car with a manual transmission.
My thoughts exactly.

Can someone please tell me how to boil an egg

j/k j/k j/k

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I have the e90 330i, 6spd manual. I'm not sure of the exact procedure to "take off" so to say from a dead stop. For example, how much do I rev the engine before dropping the clutch in first, and when I drop the clutch do I gradually take my foot off or just let it go totally? Also, when I am letting go of the clutch, do I add more gas and how much so?

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My thoughts exactly.

Can someone please tell me how to boil an egg

Ok... Its a pretty easy DIY

Tools:
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Difficulty: 1.5 out of 5

Steps:

1. Fill the pot until it is 1/2 full

2. Add a few shakes of salt to the water

3. Bring the water to a boil

4. Gently place the eggs in the boiling water with your spoon

5. Let eggs sit in water for 10 min.

6. Remove eggs

7. Empty water out of pot and clean

8. Put pot away and put spoon in dishwasher

9. Enjoy eggs

10. Cleanup your eggs



Just in case you forgot...
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Dude,
Put the eggs in the cold water in pot, BEFORE the water boils. You'll get less egg shell cracking from the sudden temp change. google this and you'll read the same thing.

by the way, you're not supposed to boil the eggs before throwing at non-e90's. Raw eggs make a much better mess!! hehe
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I remember when I first started learning how to drive stick. First of all, don't worry about downshifting yet, I know people who have gone years driving w/o even know how to do it properly or what it is at all. Second thing is don't panic after you stall as it will probably only result in you stalling again.

I guess the best advice to get from a stop to moving in first is to not be afraid to let the clutch burn a little bit right now. Let it out to the point where you can tell it is engaging and the car is moving, hold it there, don't move it out anymore, then slowly give it gas, eventually the car will be obviously moving, say 5mph. Then you can let out the clutch fully and not stall. Eventually you will understand that it requires very little gas for the car not to stall to get it moving.

At first shifting may seem easier than going from a stop to moving, but you'll soon see that is the opposite.
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My thoughts exactly.

Can someone please tell me how to boil an egg

j/k j/k j/k

Ah, I see someone has gone to the trouble of giving you a DIY on this.

But what about the more difficult "rocket science" of microwaving an egg? I've known 12 year olds who don't even do it right!

BTW, the trick to microwaving an egg is to prick a hole into the shell and membrane too, to prevent it from exploding and making a general mess of your microwave.
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Ah, I see someone has gone to the trouble of giving you a DIY on this.

But what about the more difficult "rocket science" of microwaving an egg? I've known 12 year olds who don't even do it right!

BTW, the trick to microwaving an egg is to prick a hole into the shell and membrane too, to prevent it from exploding and making a general mess of your microwave.
O rly?
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