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      04-02-2008, 01:42 PM   #1
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With and without my SSTT

I just took my car in for it's first service and I gotta say. The turbo tuner definitely makes a difference. The stock car feels so sluggish with terrible throttle response. even if the horsepower increase wasn't all that much, I think the throttle response is definitely worth it.
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The SSTT increases boost and therefore HP and TQ. I don't think it has a direct effect on throttle response.
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Do you own an SSTT? Do you even own a 335?
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Do you own an SSTT? Do you even own a 335?
Yes and Yes.
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      04-02-2008, 02:06 PM   #5
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I can't believe you can't feel the throttle response. Am I hallucinating??
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the higher throttle response is due to the increase in hp/tq.. but yes it is there, don't worry your not hallucinating, hes just trying to say that it doesnt directly improve the throttle, but because power is increased, automatically, the throttle is as well.
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I can't believe you can't feel the throttle response. Am I hallucinating??
I clearly feel an increase in power at any given rpm which can be percieved as an increase in throttle response. The SSTT, however does not change the the acceleration as a function of pedal-to-floor effort. I may be wrong but I think the TMAP only has an effect on boost and a minor effect on fuel. Nevertheless, IMO the SSTT or Dinan are the only way to go unless you have the stomach for ECU surgery.
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SSTT FTW! But honestly I LOVE the car stock as well! I never really appreciated the car in stock form as I went with the SSTT within 2-weeks of ownership.

I'm going to go back to the SSTT and adding an MSDS stage 1.
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      04-02-2008, 02:23 PM   #9
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SSTT FTW! But honestly I LOVE the car stock as well! I never really appreciated the car in stock form as I went with the SSTT within 2-weeks of ownership.

I'm going to go back to the SSTT and adding an MSDS stage 1.
What is an MSDS stage 1?
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I took my car in for service and left the SSTT in with no problems whatsoever. I'm lucky thogh because my dealer is mod-friendly.
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I took my car in for service and left the SSTT in with no problems whatsoever. I'm lucky thogh because my dealer is mod-friendly.
No dealer is going to refuse service (which you already paid for when you bought the car) no matter what mods you have on the car. Warranty repair for engine failure could be a very different issue though and if they see the SSTT they may place a note in your record, but most likely wouldn't say anything to you.

In other words, yes of course they will do your scheduled service, but no, that doesn't mean you aren't taking a risk if later you need engine related warranty repair (for a new turbo for instance) by leaving your TT in for your service appointments.
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I took my car in for service and left the SSTT in with no problems whatsoever. I'm lucky thogh because my dealer is mod-friendly.
I love these new mod-friendly dealers. What makes them mod-friendly may I ask?
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No dealer is going to refuse service (which you already paid for when you bought the car) no matter what mods you have on the car. Warranty repair for engine failure could be a very different issue though and if they see the SSTT they may place a note in your record, but most likely wouldn't say anything to you.

In other words, yes of course they will do your scheduled service, but no, that doesn't mean you aren't taking a risk if later you need engine related warranty repair (for a new turbo for instance) by leaving your TT in for your service appointments.
Now that I've installed and removed the SSTT, I can remove it in less then 10 seconds. I know exactly how the clip feels, when I slide a dime in it. I wouldn't risk taking your car in for service with the SSTT in there.
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What is an MSDS stage 1?
A short ram intake made by MSDS. Stage 2 is their cold air extension for the same intake.
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haha, yea when i take my SSTT i really feel the difference.

btw i had some work done to my car under warranty, for the seatbelt arm and rear seat and truck lock. left my SSTT in, service never even popped the hood for anything. nor did they mention anything, in which some people say they logg it for lata, i asked my SA and tech, they said THEY dont do that
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... in which some people say they logg it for lata, i asked my SA and tech, they said THEY dont do that
I have to agree. When I owned a Honda civic (yes I had it lowered), I lowered it on stock shocks. I bought these Eibach springs, lowered it, and it popped the shocks. I went to the dealership and they told me my shocks are blown due to excessive load caused by lowering. THey wouldn't cover it under warranty.

Afterwards, I took out the springs and put the original springs back in, and brought it in, and they fixed it under warranty. (they asked me where I drive to pop them so fast, I said the 401 in Toronto).

Well... I went to a different dealer (so that might affect it), I went back to the dealer that told me that I can't have it covered under warranty about 6 months later for regular service, and they said "you had your shocks changed didn't you."
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You guys are lucky to have mod friendly dealers,I asked my SA about the Dinan flash(he's not authorized Dinan dealer),his reply was that if I had the Dinan flash on my car,as far as he's concerned,my warranty would be voided,no free oil changes,no kind of warranty work whatsoever,nada,he would not touch the car in anyway,I would have to take it back to the authorized BMW Dinan dealer where I had the flash for any warranty work....Ron
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I love these new mod-friendly dealers. What makes them mod-friendly may I ask?
My SA @ my dealer happens to be a personal friend and fellow " gearhead ".. he actually has a 335i running JBH2-R tune running low 12s @ the dragstrip. He knows about my SSTT. It's been widely accepted that the SSTT provides a safe/non-detrimental boost in power for the 335i. If not, certain dealers would not be selling them.
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You guys are lucky to have mod friendly dealers,I asked my SA about the Dinan flash(he's not authorized Dinan dealer),his reply was that if I had the Dinan flash on my car,as far as he's concerned,my warranty would be voided,no free oil changes,no kind of warranty work whatsoever,nada,he would not touch the car in anyway,I would have to take it back to the authorized BMW Dinan dealer where I had the flash for any warranty work....Ron
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A short ram intake made by MSDS. Stage 2 is their cold air extension for the same intake.
Exactly. I actually decided to go with Terry's product, the BMS Filter Kit, since it essentially is the same product for $300 less. Hopefully I won't experience any heat soak issues.

I'll be posting dynos of the SSTT + BMS within the next month or so.
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