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      05-01-2006, 07:21 PM   #1
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330i 0-60 manual/auto which is faster?

I am in the hunt for a new 330i. I am originally from UK where manual transmissin cars are the norm and have got used to autos in the US.

I have seen some posts here claiming the acceralation of the 330i automatic is better than the manual, yet all my experience of car specs is that manuals are always around 0.3-0.5 secs quicker.

Anyone have any views? Come forward all you techos....
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      05-01-2006, 07:26 PM   #2
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This topic has been covered many times over, please make use of the search function. With that said, check out bmw usa's site for the numbers:

http://www.bmwusa.com/vehicles/3/200...n/techdata.htm
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I am in the hunt for a new 330i. I am originally from UK where manual transmissin cars are the norm and have got used to autos in the US.

I have seen some posts here claiming the acceralation of the 330i automatic is better than the manual, yet all my experience of car specs is that manuals are always around 0.3-0.5 secs quicker.

Anyone have any views? Come forward all you techos....

me and artz330 are actually supposed to race each other at the ny meet this sunday and make a video and put it up. He has manual, i have auto. Also me and dencoop are going to match his 325i manual against my 330i auto. We'll see how the auto fares against the manual. Should be interesting.
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me and artz330 are actually supposed to race each other at the ny meet this sunday and make a video and put it up. He has manual, i have auto. Also me and dencoop are going to match his 325i manual against my 330i auto. We'll see how the auto fares against the manual. Should be interesting.
i like to see this one...but be save gentlemen
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Artz better win, if he doesn't I will track him down and castrate him.
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me and artz330 are actually supposed to race each other at the ny meet this sunday and make a video and put it up. He has manual, i have auto. Also me and dencoop are going to match his 325i manual against my 330i auto. We'll see how the auto fares against the manual. Should be interesting.
can't wait to see vids.
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Are you kidding me? Only auto faster than manual would be DSG and SMG.
Are you kidding me?

This depends completely on the driver...
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Are you kidding me?

This depends completely on the driver...
With the same driver, the manual is quicker than the slushbox.
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Of course a manual is faster otherwise all racing cars would be autos. Wouldn't it be nice to see a NASCAR with automatic and cruise control.
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Depends on your needs, are you stuck in a lot of traffic?

Do you have a gf or spouse, would they drive the car, and would they like stick?

Do you enjoy shifting for yourself, and having a slightly more capable car versus the auto?

Manuals are usually a little faster than autos, in 99% of cars.

But these days you need a really good driver to get a little better than the autos (in some of the nicer cars such as the 3 which has exceptional manual and automatic trannys).
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But these days you need a really good driver to get a little better than the autos (in some of the nicer cars such as the 3 which has exceptional manual and automatic trannys).
that's exactly what we are going to test.
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With the same driver, the manual is quicker than the slushbox.
Uhh..I wonder what the .2 second difference that BMW quotes for the difference in 0-60 between the 330i manual vs. auto is in real life; three inches, maybe four?

I for one would like to see the same driver race a manual and an automatic simultaneously.

Can't be done based on the laws of physics as I understand them; thus my point.

If one has two cars racing, thus - presumably - two different drivers, the relative skills of each driver will, given any specific model of car, factor in more than whether or not the model of a given car is a manual or an automatic.
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Uhh..I wonder what the .2 second difference that BMW quotes for the difference in 0-60 between the 330i manual vs. auto is in real life; three inches, maybe four?

I for one would like to see the same driver race a manual and an automatic simultaneously.

Can't be done based on the laws of physics as I understand them; thus my point.

If one has two cars racing, thus - presumably - two different drivers, the relative skills of each driver will, given any specific model of car, factor in more than whether or not the model of a given car is a manual or an automatic.
The skill level won't matter if the car is automatic. Then it's just the car.
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The skill level won't matter if the car is automatic. Then it's just the car.
You still need some level of skill to launch an auto optimally?
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Nice cannot wait to witness this at the meet. I might even weigh in to see how a auto xi fairs.
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Nice cannot wait to witness this at the meet. I might even weigh in to see how a auto xi fairs.
if we are all going to go out and race. lets rent the drag strip for a day.
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You still need some level of skill to launch an auto optimally?
kk, from a roll

I'll give you the dig, but it's still a lot easier to brake-torque, than to modulate the clutch and throttle.
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Im gonna launch at 4200 with no wheel spin and get a good car on him off the launch... lol
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