The catch 22 with tire insurance - Page 2 - BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum

addy85 · 05-05-2008, 11:50 PM

Do what I did, Call BMWNA and have them call the dealership, it usually fixes everything real quick

volkswackin · 05-06-2008, 06:34 AM

except his problem doesnt really have anything to do with the dealer..it has to do with the mytire warranty...but yea we deal with tire warranty alot man and we never really have an issue? they dont come out there and look at the tire its basically up to the techs judgement? and that tire def needs to be replaced...

jzcrna · 05-06-2008, 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rosh

mine. Driver side. Dealer said its very minor and would need a change of tire eventually.. Would that happen to a regular tire in case of similar pothole that i hit?? I wonder!

You can see the start of tread separation above the bulge (In the real close-up above the Potenza label)

We are going to have a another Dooma situation. (The guy whose winning ebay bid wasn't initially honored) and the mass of support that followed.

Tag · 05-06-2008, 09:27 AM

Just pop a small hole in the sidewall with something like a finishing nail where the bubble is and take it in. They can't prove you punctured it and they can't deny you a new tire.

I had to do this once becuase my tire insurance were being jerks so I was like OK, two can play at this game a-holes!

I won, they lost...

magillagorilla · 05-06-2008, 10:00 AM

Words to live by: read your policy. If the right to perform this dissection is not in the policy (can't believe that it would be), the dealer has no right to do it.

02themax · 05-06-2008, 12:04 PM

Let it go flat and drive on it to the dealership as you SA stated you can drive on it for 100 miles. At that point they would have to replace it for you. I'm glad I didn't get the tire insurance, used the extra $$ for a set of rims/tires.

Nikos335i · 05-06-2008, 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeMidd

Any way you can post a pic of more of the tire, when you do yours - if you've got that type of photo? Am curious to see how much it stands out from the rim and rest of the sidewall. I find this whole RFT thing fascinating (and rather ridiculous).

Sorry for the thread hijack...

Here you go!

This was on my winter tire and not on my stock RFT btw.

Later,

tintivilus · 05-06-2008, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeMidd

Any way you can post a pic of more of the tire, when you do yours - if you've got that type of photo? Am curious to see how much it stands out from the rim and rest of the sidewall. I find this whole RFT thing fascinating (and rather ridiculous).

Impact damage can cause sidewall bulges/bubbles regardless of whether or the the tire's a runflat. It's only a "RFT thing" because the tires are more expensive so people bitch about it more.

Hell, I got a impact bulge on my Escort when I was in high school, but I didn't bitch too much about replacing a $40 tire.

VVA330 · 05-06-2008, 01:12 PM

sorry to hear your trouble. I too had a bubble on one of my tires, took it to the dealer and came out of there with a brand new tire in less then an hour. Didn't even pay a dime because of the tire insurance.

Nikos335i · 05-06-2008, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tintivilus

Impact damage can cause sidewall bulges/bubbles regardless of whether or the the tire's a runflat. It's only a "RFT thing" because the tires are more expensive so people bitch about it more.

Hell, I got a impact bulge on my Escort when I was in high school, but I didn't bitch too much about replacing a $40 tire.

+1

cable2 · 05-06-2008, 08:49 PM

I am awaiting my 335i, I was on the phone this morning with a customer service person at BMW NA, I brought up the issue of the run flat tires and all the problems that people are having with them. The customer service rep told me that Bridgestone is very aware of not only the problems with the tires bulging after hitting potholes but also the premature wearing issues.

She told me that Bridgestone have changed the compounds in these tires and all the new 3 series cars shipping from March 08 have these new improved run flats, I asked her is she could email me any kind of documentation from Bridgestone stating this, she told me that they don't get the service bulletin updates but I should contact Bridgestone to varify this claim.

Has anyone heard of "new improved tires" being installed?

BMW MotorSport · 05-07-2008, 12:20 AM

The bubbling side walls is very common on the RFT. I would just keep going to all my local dealers until they replace them for FREE. Or like someone here mentioned call BMW NA infront of your dealer rep and have them rip them a new one.

addy85 · 05-07-2008, 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMW MotorSport

The bubbling side walls is very commone on the RFT. I would just keep going to all my local dealers until they replace them for FREE. Or like someone here mentioned call BMW NA infront of your dealer rep and have them rip them a new one.

BMWNA works everytime

GregL · 05-07-2008, 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cable2

I am awaiting my 335i, I was on the phone this morning with a customer service person at BMW NA, I brought up the issue of the run flat tires and all the problems that people are having with them. The customer service rep told me that Bridgestone is very aware of not only the problems with the tires bulging after hitting potholes but also the premature wearing issues.

She told me that Bridgestone have changed the compounds in these tires and all the new 3 series cars shipping from March 08 have these new improved run flats, I asked her is she could email me any kind of documentation from Bridgestone stating this, she told me that they don't get the service bulletin updates but I should contact Bridgestone to varify this claim.

Has anyone heard of "new improved tires" being installed?

I know the new Nissan GT-R is being factory equipped with the next-gen RFTs from Bridgestone so they definitely do exist, but I don't know if the overhaul applies to all of their tires meaning that BMW would get them too, or if thats a different model line.

woody2223 · 05-07-2008, 02:51 PM

Maybe it's just me being an unhonest person but at $400 a pop you can bet you're ass I'll shove some nails in those tires and drive to another BMW dealership that doesn't know about your encounter with the "dissectors"

O-cha · 05-07-2008, 02:57 PM

A bulge on a RFT is most defiantly a sign of failure let alone a normal tire...

BMWKLR · 05-07-2008, 03:10 PM

I had the same problem. Just get a nail in your tires. You do this by holding a nail in a pliar and have a friend run it over. You can also disinflate the tire and run it till it falls off the rim.

Tag · 05-07-2008, 03:22 PM

^ You don't want to run over the nail, you want the puncture in the sidewall not the tread. Use some pliers or a vice grip and push the nail through. It doesn't take much effort. Even a straightened out staple from a staple gun is strong enough to go through the side wall. The rim idea is a bad one because you could potentially damage it that way.

Forget messing around with calling BMWNA, blah, blah, blah. This will take care of your issue once and for all no questions asked.

05-05-2008, 11:50 PM	#23
addy85 Got beef? Drives: E90 335i Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Arlington Texas Posts: 3,649 iTrader: (4) Garage List 2007 335i [0.00]	Do what I did, Call BMWNA and have them call the dealership, it usually fixes everything real quick __________________ Special Thanks to AU335

05-06-2008, 09:27 AM	#26
Tag Colonel Drives: 335is Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: CHICAGO Posts: 2,610 iTrader: (2)	Just pop a small hole in the sidewall with something like a finishing nail where the bubble is and take it in. They can't prove you punctured it and they can't deny you a new tire. I had to do this once becuase my tire insurance were being jerks so I was like OK, two can play at this game a-holes! I won, they lost... __________________ 335is Coupe Space Gray, ZPP, 609, 2TC, 688, 494 and 6FL. Matte Black M310 19's \| Michelin PSS 235/35F, 265/30R \| COBB AccessPORT \| Eibach Pro Street S \| Painted reflectors \| Glossy Black Kidney Grilles –Modding ain't easy FS: Front Lowering Spring Perches

05-06-2008, 12:04 PM	#28
02themax Captain Drives: E90 335i Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Calgary, AB Posts: 948 iTrader: (6)	Let it go flat and drive on it to the dealership as you SA stated you can drive on it for 100 miles. At that point they would have to replace it for you. I'm glad I didn't get the tire insurance, used the extra $$ for a set of rims/tires. __________________ E90 335i Sport Package - Logic 7 Sound w/ipod - Bluetooth - Comfort Access - PDC - 19" M3 Reps 275/30 235/35 - Blacklines - 10mil spacers rear, 5mil spacers front - BMW Alarm

05-06-2008, 01:12 PM	#31
VVA330 Captain Drives: e90 335xi Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Northern VA Posts: 971 iTrader: (2)	sorry to hear your trouble. I too had a bubble on one of my tires, took it to the dealer and came out of there with a brand new tire in less then an hour. Didn't even pay a dime because of the tire insurance. Last edited by VVA330; 05-06-2008 at 03:36 PM.

05-07-2008, 12:20 AM	#34
BMW MotorSport Banned Drives: 95 Avus M3 and 07 E90 Fam Car! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: So Cal, Simi Valley Posts: 2,534 iTrader: (4)	The bubbling side walls is very common on the RFT. I would just keep going to all my local dealers until they replace them for FREE. Or like someone here mentioned call BMW NA infront of your dealer rep and have them rip them a new one. Last edited by BMW MotorSport; 05-07-2008 at 12:42 AM.

05-06-2008, 06:34 AM	#24
volkswackin Lieutenant Colonel Drives: too broke for a BMW Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: i get around.. Posts: 1,826 iTrader: (1)	except his problem doesnt really have anything to do with the dealer..it has to do with the mytire warranty...but yea we deal with tire warranty alot man and we never really have an issue? they dont come out there and look at the tire its basically up to the techs judgement? and that tire def needs to be replaced...

05-06-2008, 10:00 AM	#27
magillagorilla Private Drives: S4 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: seattle Posts: 50 iTrader: (0)	Words to live by: read your policy. If the right to perform this dissection is not in the policy (can't believe that it would be), the dealer has no right to do it.

05-06-2008, 08:49 PM	#33
cable2 Enlisted Member Drives: 335i Coupe Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: USA Posts: 40 iTrader: (1)	I am awaiting my 335i, I was on the phone this morning with a customer service person at BMW NA, I brought up the issue of the run flat tires and all the problems that people are having with them. The customer service rep told me that Bridgestone is very aware of not only the problems with the tires bulging after hitting potholes but also the premature wearing issues. She told me that Bridgestone have changed the compounds in these tires and all the new 3 series cars shipping from March 08 have these new improved run flats, I asked her is she could email me any kind of documentation from Bridgestone stating this, she told me that they don't get the service bulletin updates but I should contact Bridgestone to varify this claim. Has anyone heard of "new improved tires" being installed?

05-07-2008, 02:51 PM	#37
woody2223 First Lieutenant Drives: 2007 black sapphire coupe JB+ Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: richmond, VA Posts: 305 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2007 335i coupe [0.00]	Maybe it's just me being an unhonest person but at $400 a pop you can bet you're ass I'll shove some nails in those tires and drive to another BMW dealership that doesn't know about your encounter with the "dissectors"

05-07-2008, 02:57 PM	#38
O-cha Brigadier General Drives: Mcoupe Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: In front of you Posts: 4,710 iTrader: (2)	A bulge on a RFT is most defiantly a sign of failure let alone a normal tire... __________________

05-07-2008, 03:10 PM	#39
BMWKLR Private First Class Drives: white 335 cp blk w/gray pop Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: miami Posts: 179 iTrader: (0)	I had the same problem. Just get a nail in your tires. You do this by holding a nail in a pliar and have a friend run it over. You can also disinflate the tire and run it till it falls off the rim.

05-07-2008, 03:22 PM	#40
Tag Colonel Drives: 335is Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: CHICAGO Posts: 2,610 iTrader: (2)	^ You don't want to run over the nail, you want the puncture in the sidewall not the tread. Use some pliers or a vice grip and push the nail through. It doesn't take much effort. Even a straightened out staple from a staple gun is strong enough to go through the side wall. The rim idea is a bad one because you could potentially damage it that way. Forget messing around with calling BMWNA, blah, blah, blah. This will take care of your issue once and for all no questions asked. __________________ 335is Coupe Space Gray, ZPP, 609, 2TC, 688, 494 and 6FL. Matte Black M310 19's \| Michelin PSS 235/35F, 265/30R \| COBB AccessPORT \| Eibach Pro Street S \| Painted reflectors \| Glossy Black Kidney Grilles –Modding ain't easy FS: Front Lowering Spring Perches

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