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      05-19-2008, 03:48 AM   #45
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tuning box worries

Hi thinking of a tuning box for my 177, does anyone know if this item can be removed for a service so that bmw don't comment on it on the service page, is the car's smoothness taken away by these tuning boxes, does the extra power make much difference to the 0-60 time? has anybody seen any figures? any help woud be great cheers
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      05-19-2008, 04:26 AM   #46
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i think your worrying about this a bit much a tuning box takes the turbo lag out like when your in second and 3rd its a little pause then bang on comes the power smoothness is still, but what i can see the tuning is a self install and you will have to plug it in, so it must be easy to take out, whats the worst that could happen you dont like it so take it out,
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Takes 2 minutes to install/take out, and will knock about a second off the 0-60mph time.
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thanks!

Hi thanks for the replies, I know i'm worried i had a 330i e46 before and did all sorts to it but this time i'm on a 2 year pcp so need the car to go back exactly how it was, thanks for the info tho
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Hi thinking of a tuning box for my 177, does anyone know if this item can be removed for a service so that bmw don't comment on it on the service page, is the car's smoothness taken away by these tuning boxes, does the extra power make much difference to the 0-60 time? has anybody seen any figures? any help woud be great cheers
As advised by a mate who is a BMW service manager, don't leave a plug in tuning box attached during a service. Their service computer will spot it. If there is any problems with the engine in the future, tuning box related or not, BMW could refuse to repair/replace under warranty. Once the box is removed the service computer will never know it was there. As it takes two minutes to remove the engine cover and plug in or out it makes sense to remove it.
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I have read through many posts about these tuning boxes. Can anyone recommend the Spider box over P-Tronic? Spider is available for £300, P-Tronic is ~£450 (with the 15% discount) but gives more BHP - apparently.

Just wondered what you guys would recommend?
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I have read through many posts about these tuning boxes. Can anyone recommend the Spider box over P-Tronic? Spider is available for £300, P-Tronic is ~£450 (with the 15% discount) but gives more BHP - apparently.

Just wondered what you guys would recommend?
Second that request as well. I'd like a new box for my new 177bhp 320d.

I have a cheap 50 quid off ebay box off my old 163bhp going spare. Improved torque and acceleration. Make me an offer + postage and its yours.
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Once the box is removed the service computer will never know it was there.
I would disagree with that, the ecu will log all sorts of things that shout 'tuning box', but proving it is very hard.
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Once the box is removed the service computer will never know it was there.

I would disagree with that, the ecu will log all sorts of things that shout 'tuning box', but proving it is very hard.
I'd agree with gizze on this, you may well take the box out, but a trail will be left behind.

Just say NO.
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What was that page part of Hot ??
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So are we saying that having a tuning box is detectable by the dealers?
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DME readout, NOT mine.

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gr4z So are we saying that having a tuning box is detectable by the dealers?
Give them a reason to go looking and yes.

But of course you would'nt dream of leaving a box in when you went to a dealers, would you, any more than you would know what the hell they were talking about, when they questioned the readings that may or may not appear on any printout.

After all, you just point and press the accelerator
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Just remember gr4z, denial is very EASY over the phone. Much harder face to face. Do you play poker by any chance?
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Just remember gr4z, denial is very EASY over the phone. Much harder face to face. Do you play poker by any chance?
Thanks chaps put my mind at rest. Had a go at Texas Hold 'em on the Xbox once!
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Maybe its worth a trip to your local indie to reset the fault codes before having a service. If anything was wrong with the car, it would flag up soon after having them reset.

On another note, I read on another M3 forum that the dealer can read how many revs, how hot the oil has got, how fast the car has gone, how much fuel its used, how many launch controls it's done. etc, etc

Scary stuff
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On another note, I read on another M3 forum that the dealer can read how many revs, how hot the oil has got, how fast the car has gone, how much fuel its used, how many launch controls it's done. etc, etc
I wouldn't be at all surprised as Porsche record revs and other timestamped usage data. Since memory is so cheap nowadays I expect a lot of cars record that info.
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Im getting a 320d loaner very shortly. Anyone want to meet to let me try out there box???
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Im getting a 320d loaner very shortly. Anyone want to meet to let me try out there box???
you downsizing carl lol hope you give it the beans which one you getting 163 or 177
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Im getting a 320d loaner very shortly. Anyone want to meet to let me try out there box???
Don't forget to let us all know the reg of it - so that we can avoid it as a used buy.
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yea lol he will do 4 burnouts in it on the first day lol
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Well I ordered a Spider box yesterday. I have done 3k miles in my 320d since buying it new and have never done any ECU tuning or bought a box before so I will report back when I get it. Here's hoping for delivery tomorrow so I can try out over the BH weekend Although with all the rain forecast lets hope I don't get too much wheel spin
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you downsizing carl lol hope you give it the beans which one you getting 163 or 177
Not sure mate, would imagine a newish one so prob a 177!! I really want to try a box on it for sure



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Don't forget to let us all know the reg of it - so that we can avoid it as a used buy.
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yea lol he will do 4 burnouts in it on the first day lol

It would be rude not too




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