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      05-21-2008, 08:14 PM   #1
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Bluetooth Retrofits from EAS

Has anyone installed it? Is it the same as Bimmernav ones but cheaper?

The site says its a ULF Module, and i thought that ULF for Euro spec and TCU is for US Spec.....
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I have not installed one but all my experience with EAS has been positive.
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Has anyone installed it? Is it the same as Bimmernav ones but cheaper?

The site says its a ULF Module, and i thought that ULF for Euro spec and TCU is for US Spec.....
I don't see in their website any OEM Bluetooth retrofit for any MOST BMW (E90, E60, E70...), only for IBus BMW's...
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I don't see in their website any OEM Bluetooth retrofit for any MOST BMW (E90, E60, E70...), only for IBus BMW's...
right here -> http://www.europeanautosource.com/pr...a5e89b6eff41ac

but i don't know what comes as a part of the kit, beside this module and a microphone
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right here -> http://www.europeanautosource.com/pr...a5e89b6eff41ac

but i don't know what comes as a part of the kit, beside this module and a microphone
That's an IBus ULF, not MOST...
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yeah, i got an email from Jurrian @ EAS. He told me its not for E92. bummer
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yeah, i got an email from Jurrian @ EAS. He told me its not for E92. bummer
For the only OEM Bluetooth retrofit available in the USA so far, you will need the bimmernav kit plus the rest of the parts from the dealer. You could get all the parts from the dealer but it could be more expensive than going to bimmernav first and then to the dealer to finish it up.

If you can install all the parts yourself and find an online dealer with discount parts (especially those that give up to 20% off if you are a member of the BMWCCA), then it will be a matter of having your local dealer program the system only. That could save you the very most...
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wait... am i missing something here?
Bimmernav kits require *ADDITIONAL* dealer parts? What exactly does it need?

I thought all that is required is a module, mic and a mounting bracket? plus activation....
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wait... am i missing something here?
Bimmernav kits require *ADDITIONAL* dealer parts? What exactly does it need?

I thought all that is required is a module, mic and a mounting bracket? plus activation....
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=85149
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oh yeah, i saw that DIY. The thing is that i only want hands-free. No need for BMW or eject box.
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oh yeah, i saw that DIY. The thing is that i only want hands-free. No need for BMW or eject box.
You still will need the Assist external hardware for this to work or programming cannot be performed.

You can try to talk with bimmernav to see if they still offer the MOST ULF (no Assist hardware required), but be aware of the issues with that ULF functionality noted in that DIY link.
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Has anyone installed it? Is it the same as Bimmernav ones but cheaper?

The site says its a ULF Module, and i thought that ULF for Euro spec and TCU is for US Spec.....
That was one of the options I had considered. However! At the time of my consult, EAS claimed to have NEVER programmed a vehicle yet. They had done 2 installations.

They estimated 1.5 hours for installation, and 3 hours for programming OR more.

They said it was $85 an hour. It may take the whole day or longer.

I did not want to be the guinea pig especially with those variable rates. It could have been anywhere from $400 to more than $1k!

Although I was the guinea pig to Savage BMW, I can say I at least felt more comfortable with its work being guaranteed as a dealership.

Nothing at all against EAS solefald--just make sure they can give you a FINITE price and eta and if they have actually programmed a car succesfully with ULF...successful meaning full compatibility including English voice command. If no English voice command then not the end of the world either. Just establish the price and it can be a cheaper alternative to the TCU retrofit in the very least.

To answer your question:
I am not sure what the most recent ULF generation was--it may have been 13th generation. Call Martin, make sure he still sells the ULF as Technic noted...I ordered a kit and I got TCU instead. I know a few others have been getting the TCU instead of the ULF. Call EAS and make sure they are selling the most current generation ULF.
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haha, this shit is getting complicated.

i think i should save time and money and go with parrot 3000 + steering wheel integration.
wonder if i can disable the caller id announcement with that thing... to me its a privacy issue. i don't always want my passengers to know who is calling me, plus i always keep my phone next to me, so i can look at it. and really, all i need is basic hands-free and OEM look.

and i will also buy an alarm with the money i save!

EDIT: It is confirmed by QuickConnect guys that Parrot does not announce caller ID, unless voice tag assigned to that particular number. Sweet!
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Nothing at all against EAS solefald--just make sure they can give you a FINITE price and eta and if they have actually programmed a car succesfully with ULF...successful meaning full compatibility including English voice command. If no English voice command then not the end of the world either. Just establish the price and it can be a cheaper alternative to the TCU retrofit in the very least.
Sorry - for the specific requests you wanted, there was no way to give an estimate. A lot has happened in the past 3 months on Bluetooth, dealers are no longer needed.

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haha, this shit is getting complicated.

i think i should save time and money and go with parrot 3000 + steering wheel integration.
wonder if i can disable the caller id announcement with that thing... to me its a privacy issue. i don't always want my passengers to know who is calling me, plus i always keep my phone next to me, so i can look at it. and really, all i need is basic hands-free and OEM look.

and i will also buy an alarm with the money i save!

EDIT: It is confirmed by QuickConnect guys that Parrot does not announce caller ID, unless voice tag assigned to that particular number. Sweet!
Don't - our Bluetooth kit will be completed in about 2 weeks for half the cost of OEM. Datalogging/development was just completed last week on 2 e92 M3s, a e60 M5 and e60 525i.

More info soon in a separate thread.
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Don't - our Bluetooth kit will be completed in about 2 weeks for half the cost of OEM. Datalogging/development was just completed last week on 2 e92 M3s, a e60 M5 and e60 525i.

More info soon in a separate thread.
Oh man! Where were you last week
I have the parrot kit with quick connect here already, waiting for my car to get out of the body shop, so i can install it. Damnit....

I guess since it is already here, i will install it and see how it works. If i don't like it, i will be in a market for a new kit....
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Don't - our Bluetooth kit will be completed in about 2 weeks for half the cost of OEM. Datalogging/development was just completed last week on 2 e92 M3s, a e60 M5 and e60 525i.

More info soon in a separate thread.
If I already have bluetooth, and it doesnt work with my nokia phone, will your retrofit help me?
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If I already have bluetooth, and it doesnt work with my nokia phone, will your retrofit help me?
Yes - the best part about the kit is that it is firmware-upgradeable (unlike the BMW TCUs) when new phones and/or features are released.
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Yes - the best part about the kit is that it is firmware-upgradeable (unlike the BMW TCUs) when new phones and/or features are released.
that sounds awesome. do you know which phones will work with this (specifically Nokia e51 with the S60 operating system)? Will it have the same functionality as the original (via radio display?)
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that sounds awesome. do you know which phones will work with this (specifically Nokia e51 with the S60 operating system)? Will it have the same functionality as the original (via radio display?)
This will fully emulate the factory TCU, including steering wheel and numerical/text display on the radio/iDrive screen.
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This will fully emulate the factory TCU, including steering wheel and numerical/text display on the radio/iDrive screen.
Emulate TCU!? Upgradeable firmware? Woah I am super excited here even though my bluetooth is fully retrofitted.
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This will fully emulate the factory TCU, including steering wheel and numerical/text display on the radio/iDrive screen.
Wow, those are really great promises being made about this potential product.
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