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      05-06-2008, 01:58 PM   #67
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      05-06-2008, 02:21 PM   #68
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What an asshole.

To summarize: This Paul guy and his crack team of legal representatives are claiming that their company can use and take ownership over any image they find on the internet so long as there is no watermark indicating a copyright owner. If there is a copyright on the image, they can just crop it out and pretend like that part never happened as well. How convenient this all is for them. I'm sorry, but this is not how it works and 'Public realm' has nothing to do with it either. Copyrighted photos have been published and distributed through some sort of 'public realm' since copyright law began, the internet didn't suddenly change that fact. There are fair-use policies that allow you to use copyrighted works freely, but this is most certainly not one of those cases.

Living in Paul's world would be great for me as a graphic designer. I could just go to google image search and find someone else's work and pass it off as my own with no legal ramifications. sweet.

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... I never did hear back from Vincent Wong btw
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      05-06-2008, 02:26 PM   #69
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Just to add...

"In all countries where the Berne Convention standards apply, copyright is automatic, and need not be obtained through official registration with any government office. Once an idea has been reduced to tangible form, for example by securing it in a fixed medium (such as a drawing, sheet music, photograph, a videotape, or a computer file), the copyright holder is entitled to enforce his or her exclusive rights"

"Copyright infringement (or copyright violation) is the unauthorized use of material that is covered by copyright law, in a manner that violates one of the copyright owner's exclusive rights, such as the right to reproduce or perform the copyrighted work, or to make derivative works."

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      05-06-2008, 02:36 PM   #70
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Bill: Yeah, he and Vincent is living in their own little world lol... :/

I sure as hell hope the bildombudsman will help me get this straight, it looks to me as a 100% win case!

And hopefully I can charge them on many more terms such as my name hasnt been there, modifiying the photos, colors et.c in one of the ad in Performance BMW and also just cutting my signature off..

too bad u didnt hear from Vincent, I havent e-mailed him back either as I didnt get any answers from him and he did really piss me off the way he acts..

so is Paul now tho...

I should spread this on even more car forums where they might have customers, so far E90post and E46fanatics, and 6speedonline, and several Photo forums, swedish and international! :>
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      05-06-2008, 02:47 PM   #71
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Let us know how the meeting goes with your Lawyer. I think we are all interested in the outcome and pulling for you on this one. Good luck!
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      05-06-2008, 04:02 PM   #72
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Glad to hear you're putting it up against them. It's funny how Paul Emmerson says it's OK for them to pull photos from the internet without a watermark (even though there was) and use it freely.

And he's crying over bad publicity from posting about the truth? Wait, where was the good publicity to begin with?
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      05-06-2008, 06:24 PM   #73
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You know what's kind of sad? It's possible these guys actually didn't realize copyright was automatic. It's not sad because they got caught, it's sad because anyone printing images should at least have some understanding of how copyright works. Frankly, I am surprised they are continuing to fight you on this.
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      05-08-2008, 12:57 AM   #74
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Let us know how the meeting goes with your Lawyer. I think we are all interested in the outcome and pulling for you on this one. Good luck!
Ditto!
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Jlevi used one of my pics for one of their vendor adds on here. . . . . should I care?
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Jlevi used one of my pics for one of their vendor adds on here. . . . . should I care?
Yes, you should. *sgdfg**dgsd*@!%#%#* JLevi
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Jlevi used one of my pics for one of their vendor adds on here. . . . . should I care?
+1 ooh ahh what a big freakin deal.
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i just knew Vincent Wong is the vice president of iForged Wheels.
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      05-15-2008, 09:30 AM   #79
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hmmm stealing wheel designs, even stealing the logo design
just goes to show the morals of this organization
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**********s and iforge both take your pictures without asking, worst companies ever, glad i never bought anything from them
If you havent' purchased anything from them then how can you comment on their service?

I understand that the feedback section is important for complaints and positive input, but I will not let you bash another vendor "just because".
Creating a new account just to bash?

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      05-29-2008, 01:25 PM   #82
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********** is good... they asked my permission before posting up my pics on the forum and their site. I am pretty sure they do that all the time, but sometime there might be some communication problem. Mistake happens.
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      06-10-2008, 03:20 PM   #83
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They have 2 of my cars on their website without asking. Granted they are from way back in the day, but whatever.




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Looks like standard business practice for them.
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