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      05-25-2008, 05:18 PM   #67
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Hey guys,

I bought a P-tronic tuning box for my 320d E92 177 bhp with 6k km.

It didn't work, after trying almost everything. I'll post the mail i sent to the p-tronic service after several tries to make the box work:

"Hello,

I opened the box today as you suggested and i was surprised to see that two wires inside were not connected. Anyway, i connected them, and after that i started to install the box according to instructions. The engine started-up, but it kept on revving between 600 rpm and 1.200 continuously. Then I adjusted the power setting and the sensibility in every way possible (from 1 to 7 - sensibility, and power - 1-4). It kept on revving the engine in standstill.

After that, I took the car for a drive hoping it will settle somehow, but after 3 minutes (and revving the engine to 3.500 rpm), I got the error - engine malfunction (which limited my turbo).

Can anything else be done? "

Now they've picked-up the unit and now i am waiting for a new one to come from belgium.

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      05-25-2008, 05:23 PM   #68
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deisel tuning uk do a box for the 177hp

218hp and 420Nm
How much?

420Nm torque? YIKES! Don't think I've ever owned a car with that much torque and I've owned a few "fast" cars

If I was to do this to a new car would it voi the warranty?
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      05-26-2008, 12:42 AM   #69
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How much?

420Nm torque? YIKES! Don't think I've ever owned a car with that much torque and I've owned a few "fast" cars

If I was to do this to a new car would it voi the warranty?
Actually, the P-tronic box is stated to take the power up even more - 226 bhp and the torque to 459 Nm (from 177 bhp and 350 Nm).
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      05-26-2008, 03:05 AM   #70
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Hey guys,

I bought a P-tronic tuning box for my 320d E92 177 bhp with 6k km.

It didn't work, after trying almost everything. I'll post the mail i sent to the p-tronic service after several tries to make the box work:

"Hello,

I opened the box today as you suggested and i was surprised to see that two wires inside were not connected. Anyway, i connected them, and after that i started to install the box according to instructions. The engine started-up, but it kept on revving between 600 rpm and 1.200 continuously. Then I adjusted the power setting and the sensibility in every way possible (from 1 to 7 - sensibility, and power - 1-4). It kept on revving the engine in standstill.

After that, I took the car for a drive hoping it will settle somehow, but after 3 minutes (and revving the engine to 3.500 rpm), I got the error - engine malfunction (which limited my turbo).

Can anything else be done? "

Now they've picked-up the unit and now i am waiting for a new one to come from belgium.

Cheers,
i ordered my spider box it came and it reving up and down like urs was 2 boxes later still wasnt working took it down to there work shop and it was just a simple power lead they needed to change it sounds same scenario as urs
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      05-26-2008, 10:22 AM   #71
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Who is going to be brave and dyno a tuning box so that we can compare against a remap?

I don't expect it to be as good but will it give a reasonable gain
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      05-26-2008, 11:28 AM   #72
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Actually, the P-tronic box is stated to take the power up even more - 226 bhp and the torque to 459 Nm (from 177 bhp and 350 Nm).
P-Tronic quote 368bhp for the 335d! Sounds good!
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I did a little research into P-Tronic, can't find any real info and all the gains they quote are % increases.

Makes you wonder if or what cars they have actually tried these things on

Not to say it wont work it may well do
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      05-27-2008, 05:33 PM   #74
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I received the box yesterday and I managed to install it. This time, it worked great. When I first started the engine it had some sort of unstable revving at standstill (it went from 700 rpm to 900 rpm), but after taking it for a drive it settled to 800 rpm (at standstill).

As for the power delivery, it is excellent; the power curve is linear, so it is no problem to drive in the city (i was a little bit worried about this fact).

I intend to put the car on a dyno, to see the actual gains and i also want to do a race with a 330xd (from 20km/h, so there will not be any traction advantage).

Now, the specifications of the car, according to P-tronic would be: 226 Bhp and 458 Nm (from 177 bhp and 350 Nm)

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Sounds good Vlad, glad it feels better, will be really interesting to see before and after dyno runs
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I received the box yesterday and I managed to install it. This time, it worked great. When I first started the engine it had some sort of unstable revving at standstill (it went from 700 rpm to 900 rpm), but after taking it for a drive it settled to 800 rpm (at standstill).

As for the power delivery, it is excellent; the power curve is linear, so it is no problem to drive in the city (i was a little bit worried about this fact).

I intend to put the car on a dyno, to see the actual gains and i also want to do a race with a 330xd (from 20km/h, so there will not be any traction advantage).

Now, the specifications of the car, according to P-tronic would be: 226 Bhp and 458 Nm (from 177 bhp and 350 Nm)

Cheers,
So Vlad, hows the car runnin, I am expecting a p-tronic box for my X6 35D coming in september.
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      06-15-2008, 11:47 AM   #77
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Guys,

proper remapping of the ECU is going to be available for the 177bhp 2.0d engine very very soon.

Just thought I'd let you know.
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      06-17-2008, 08:05 AM   #78
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So Vlad, hows the car runnin, I am expecting a p-tronic box for my X6 35D coming in september.
Hey John! My car is in a repair shop right now, they had to change the front bumper. (somebody hit me in the parking lot).

I had the chance to test the P-tronic box only for 1 day, before my car went into service.

My impressions were very good after trying the P-tronic box: the power-delivery was excellent (it went fast from 1.800 rpm to 2.500, and after 2.500, even faster - at 2.500 rpm, it felt like another turbo went in).

I didn't have the chance to put the car on a dyno (yet) and i didn't do a 0-62 run, but i'm sure it goes at least 0,5 s. quicker than before; we'll see.

The gas millage didn't change at all, although the car was pushed hard all day long. (8,5-9 l/100km)

I hope I'll get my car back this week (I'm having some trouble with my insurance company - ALLIANZ which somehow forgot to pay BMW Service). After that i'm planning to do a test against a friend of mine that drives a BMW 320d E92 (also with a powerbox - but DTUK, bought from UK) to see which chip gives the most power (and how it delivers it).

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P.S.: Congratulations for the car; excellent choice.
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Hey John! My car is in a repair shop right now, they had to change the front bumper. (somebody hit me in the parking lot).

I had the chance to test the P-tronic box only for 1 day, before my car went into service.

My impressions were very good after trying the P-tronic box: the power-delivery was excellent (it went fast from 1.800 rpm to 2.500, and after 2.500, even faster - at 2.500 rpm, it felt like another turbo went in).

I didn't have the chance to put the car on a dyno (yet) and i didn't do a 0-62 run, but i'm sure it goes at least 0,5 s. quicker than before; we'll see.

The gas millage didn't change at all, although the car was pushed hard all day long. (8,5-9 l/100km)

I hope I'll get my car back this week (I'm having some trouble with my insurance company - ALLIANZ which somehow forgot to pay BMW Service). After that i'm planning to do a test against a friend of mine that drives a BMW 320d E92 (also with a powerbox - but DTUK, bought from UK) to see which chip gives the most power (and how it delivers it).

Cheers,

Vlad

P.S.: Congratulations for the car; excellent choice.
Well I've got my P-Tronic box and fitted it to my 635D Sport for now (same engine as the X635D coming) it flys now, I mean really flys, I have remapped all my cars til now, NO more this is the way to go, two mins ON/OFF it's great. Economy is better if you don't push to hard, love it.
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I experienced a problem with my P-tronic box. When i reinstalled it after taking the car to the service (to change the front bumper), it didn't work anymore...

I had to send it back to them to change it (this being the second time, when i am sending it back). There might be a problem with the power box and this particular engine 2.0 177 hp (to be more exact with it's ECU).

They will give me a new one next week. I will post the results after refitting it.
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I experienced a problem with my P-tronic box. When i reinstalled it after taking the car to the service (to change the front bumper), it didn't work anymore...

I had to send it back to them to change it (this being the second time, when i am sending it back). There might be a problem with the power box and this particular engine 2.0 177 hp (to be more exact with it's ECU).

They will give me a new one next week. I will post the results after refitting it.
So...there seems to be problems still... with 2.0 177 damn....
and no dyno results yet out...
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a remap is just coming...

http://www.digituning.com/
soon releases a remap to my 320d E90 177hp 350nm 2008

Current programs:
> E46 320d 100 kW (136 hp) 100 kW/136 hp 280 Nm 207 km/h 120 kW/163 hp
> 335 Nm
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> E46 320d 110 kW (150 hp) 110 kW/150 hp 330 Nm 216 km/h 132 kW/180 hp
> 390 Nm
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> E46 320d 120 kW (163 hp) 120 kW/163 hp 340 Nm 225 km/h 146 kW/198 hp
> 410 Nm

for my version promises about 215hp and about 450nm
After reading digituning faq i would not even consider a tuning box...well
i am sorry i cant translate that info to english but i am sure remap
beats a tuning box 6-0....

a couple of things:

*tuning-boxes work without giving any more pressure to the turbo
->have to raise injection pressure to sky high->enormous pressure to the
rail pump,to injektors... (cant translate properly)->injection time raising->temperature raising...

*most of the tuning boxes work when you pedal-to-the-metal
BUT with a remap car accelerates allready from a low rpm...

Everything in Finnish:
http://www.digituning.com/fi/faq.htm...HOBOKSIT_&_CO”


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Kai, your english is good enough for me to understand, your very right about what you say about the tuning boxes.

WHat maps do you offer for the 335d?
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So...there seems to be problems still... with 2.0 177 damn....
and no dyno results yet out...
Dyno results here

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=165047
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if those numbers & picture are not fake thats really nice result!!!!
how do i get one to Finland lol

well...maybe i just have to show those numbers and demand same hp and torque

-Kai
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Kai, your english is good enough for me to understand, your very right about what you say about the tuning boxes.

WHat maps do you offer for the 335d?
good to hear that
not sure what 335d is going to be when used digituning BUT
another tuning seller (very known for a long time working with tuning in FInland):

http://www.turbotec.com/etusivu/bmw/3_e90-93.html

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286hp -> 330hp
580nm -> 670nm

regards,
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Not all tuning boxes just up the fuel pressure, or only work at full throttle...
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if those numbers & picture are not fake thats really nice result!!!!
how do i get one to Finland lol

well...maybe i just have to show those numbers and demand same hp and torque

-Kai
Thanks - its all real.

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