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      09-24-2008, 07:21 PM   #1
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Progman Update

Hey,

What's the best way to convince a SA to perform a Progman update?

I had a hard enough time just for him to admit that I needed an iDrive update (for MP3 support).

I have the Progman Versions, and a few SIBs written down but not sure howto proceed.
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The latest list of PROGMAN (CIP) is located here: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...38&postcount=9

As far as getting an upgrade it is the usual way: have a documented issue that is fixed by more current software. They even now include a statement in such SIBs that when the software is updated to fix the particular issue that ALL modules are updated if not up to the current level.
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The latest list of PROGMAN (CIP) is located here: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...38&postcount=9

As far as getting an upgrade it is the usual way: have a documented issue that is fixed by more current software. They even now include a statement in such SIBs that when the software is updated to fix the particular issue that ALL modules are updated if not up to the current level.
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Programming/Coding Explainations 09 07 07 September-08 ALL Progman Version vs. Vehicle Data Status (update to 7/08) 30.00.02 latest shown
? I gave my SA that SIB #, he said they wont update it unless there is a specific issue.
All the details on my Progman Version Table just says "Coding & programming" or "UNK"
Doesn't give me much to work with
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? I gave my SA that SIB #, he said they wont update it unless there is a specific issue.
All the details on my Progman Version Table just says "Coding & programming" or "UNK"
Doesn't give me much to work with
No, by specific issue I mean for example you might have the jolt/delay issue on an auto tranny (SIB 24 03 08) which is fixed by coding with new software. That would get you the upgrade. You have to have a PROBLEM and that problem has to be fixed by a software upgrade.

Since BMW no longer publishes a SIB on PROGMAN that simply lists what it fixes there is no quick and easy list to work with. If you don't have a real complaint, do not expect to get a software update.

IF you have issues post them up and maybe there is an SIB that covers it.
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No, by specific issue I mean for example you might have the jolt/delay issue on an auto tranny (SIB 24 03 08) which is fixed by coding with new software. That would get you the upgrade. You have to have a PROBLEM and that problem has to be fixed by a software upgrade.

Since BMW no longer publishes a SIB on PROGMAN that simply lists what it fixes there is no quick and easy list to work with. If you don't have a real complaint, do not expect to get a software update.

IF you have issues post them up and maybe there is an SIB that covers it.
Funny thing is, I've had jolts before, and delays from Stop.
I figured it was the gas I was using.
I guess i'll bring it in.
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Could you expand on the Jolt or delay?
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http://www.bmwtis.com/tsb/bulletins/...p/B240308g.htm

If you want details of a specific SIB then replace the 6 numbers in the link above with the number of the SIB you require. The above link provides details of SIB 24 03 08

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Could you expand on the Jolt or delay?
They were random, and seem to have gone away. Im assuming i just had bad gas in the car.

Worst part with my idrive update is that I can't get back into the diagnostic menu. So I can't tell which CIP i have.
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The reasons we would update the software are: You have a problem that is solved with programming, we replace a control module, or we retrofit something such as sirius.
Or you could pay to have it updated.
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