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      10-28-2008, 10:41 AM   #23
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Man what a disgrace. More and more, the decisions that BMW is making, piss me off. If they are really going to make the 8 series a four door coupe, and LARGER than the upcoming 7?!?! I'll be the first to say BMW has lost its way...and BMW has been my favorite auto maker since I was 8. I loved the days when BMW made small, performance oriented fast cars. Now the only thing we have that fits into that category is the 1 and 3 (even the 3 has gained a lot of weight). The 5 and 6 are under powered and getting heavier each iteration. Even though I love all mentioned above to death. The fact is they get bigger and heavier with every generation. With the exception of the M3 and 335i..not even the mighty M5 and M6 can keep their street cred, because they just aren't as fast as I think they should be for that amount of money. I mean come on only 4.7 seconds for 120k? I see the Gallardo doing a whole lot more with 500 horses than the M6 and it's quite disappointing. I know comparing a BMW to a Lambo isn't the greatest comparison..but you can pick up a Gallardo for around the same price almost. And BMW is even loosing straight-line battles with the porkers over at Mercedes (the M6 looses out to the Sl600, and that's a shame because I hate the SL). That should NEVER happen.

Now they are gonna put the kibosh on a M3 CSL and M1 mid-engine Audi fighter, yet make M models of X-series SUVs? That's retarded. So is this rendering, so is the idea of bringing the 8 series moniker back without a nice uber-coupe to go with it. I read in my automobile that the CS concept was still under way in GT4(four door coupe) and GT2 (two door) variations. Lets hope Automobile knows what they are talking about..and that IF we see the number 8 reinvented..it will be a two door guise. Call me crazy..but I think all these companies and their four door coupes look hideous, except for the Mercedes CLS which was the pioneer of all this crazy four door hooplah. I hate Mercedes too. Hate them! But I have to say at least they aren't playing follower in this segment. Everyone and they're brother including Aston and Porsche (Aston and Porsche, are you effin' kidding me?) are playing catch-up, to one of the ugliest styling trends IMO, since the plastic that hit the Chevrolet cars like an Avalanche (punn intended). Seriously, The Panera bread, or whatever Porsche is calling it, and the Rapid are ugly stretched versions of beautiful cars. But that doesn't mean it's a good idea to take a beautiful car such as the DB9, or Carrera and ADD TWO DOORS. All in all, as far as I'm concerned if BMW plans on making the 8 just a four door coupe, then they just need to stop production. Because I myself don't want to see a car, I love dearly (the E31) brought back as a slap in the face to it's namesake..by adding 1000s of pounds and a wheelbase larger than a 7. And I know the original was pretty big when it was first available, but come on.. Enough is enough. It's like BMW, and every other car maker has forgotten how to make small, lightweight cars.

This concludes my rant on whats wrong at BMW and with this concept for the day. lol
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...and please stop comparing every 4-door coupe to MB CLS, that segment is already covered by the 6 series!!!

Panamera is ok.

no idiot , bmw does not have anything like the CLS , the 6 series goes with the CLK and SL...

bmw will never match mercedes , its also pretty stupid to compare the two , one is beauty luxury and sport and the other is just sport

and btw those pics are stupid , and if they asked me , Id make 8 series to compete with the CL , a true luxury copue based on the 7 sereis and GT to beat CSL panamera......
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great, just what they need...another huge 4 door. What a pitiful legacy to give to the 8 series, those used to be such hot cars
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I couldn't agree more with BimmerboyPate92, BMW is making some absolutely ridiculous decisions. As far as I'm concerned BMW makes two cars that stick true to the blueprint that put BMW on the map in the first place, the new M3 (the decision to cancel the CSL is one of their worst yet) and the 135i.

With that said BMWs are still much nicer to drive than their Mercedes and Audi counterparts and any wannabes out of Japan (I've driven all of the 3's competition prior to and since my purchase, this isn't just fanboy nonsense) so I guess I just expect too much out of them...
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Screw all this big stuff.... Let's get a M3 CSL please!!!
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Man what a disgrace. More and more, the decisions that BMW is making, piss me off. If they are really going to make the 8 series a four door coupe, and LARGER than the upcoming 7?!?! I'll be the first to say BMW has lost its way...and BMW has been my favorite auto maker since I was 8. I loved the days when BMW made small, performance oriented fast cars. Now the only thing we have that fits into that category is the 1 and 3 (even the 3 has gained a lot of weight). The 5 and 6 are under powered and getting heavier each iteration. Even though I love all mentioned above to death. The fact is they get bigger and heavier with every generation. With the exception of the M3 and 335i..not even the mighty M5 and M6 can keep their street cred, because they just aren't as fast as I think they should be for that amount of money. I mean come on only 4.7 seconds for 120k? I see the Gallardo doing a whole lot more with 500 horses than the M6 and it's quite disappointing. I know comparing a BMW to a Lambo isn't the greatest comparison..but you can pick up a Gallardo for around the same price almost. And BMW is even loosing straight-line battles with the porkers over at Mercedes (the M6 looses out to the Sl600, and that's a shame because I hate the SL). That should NEVER happen.

Now they are gonna put the kibosh on a M3 CSL and M1 mid-engine Audi fighter, yet make M models of X-series SUVs? That's retarded. So is this rendering, so is the idea of bringing the 8 series moniker back without a nice uber-coupe to go with it. I read in my automobile that the CS concept was still under way in GT4(four door coupe) and GT2 (two door) variations. Lets hope Automobile knows what they are talking about..and that IF we see the number 8 reinvented..it will be a two door guise. Call me crazy..but I think all these companies and their four door coupes look hideous, except for the Mercedes CLS which was the pioneer of all this crazy four door hooplah. I hate Mercedes too. Hate them! But I have to say at least they aren't playing follower in this segment. Everyone and they're brother including Aston and Porsche (Aston and Porsche, are you effin' kidding me?) are playing catch-up, to one of the ugliest styling trends IMO, since the plastic that hit the Chevrolet cars like an Avalanche (punn intended). Seriously, The Panera bread, or whatever Porsche is calling it, and the Rapid are ugly stretched versions of beautiful cars. But that doesn't mean it's a good idea to take a beautiful car such as the DB9, or Carrera and ADD TWO DOORS. All in all, as far as I'm concerned if BMW plans on making the 8 just a four door coupe, then they just need to stop production. Because I myself don't want to see a car, I love dearly (the E31) brought back as a slap in the face to it's namesake..by adding 1000s of pounds and a wheelbase larger than a 7. And I know the original was pretty big when it was first available, but come on.. Enough is enough. It's like BMW, and every other car maker has forgotten how to make small, lightweight cars.

This concludes my rant on whats wrong at BMW and with this concept for the day. lol
Good Post, agree with you on your points. IMHO, I think BMW does need get it going so to speak with the M5 and M6. The E9X M3 does indeed hold up its standards of excellence, power, and luxury...but the competition has definitely closed in, if not surpassed in some areas. With the new upcoming RS5...an M3 CSL would be delightful, and it will be interesting to see what BMW's response is to the RS6 in their new M5. They need to stop worrying about these types of cars and M SUV's IMO. But again, if their business model sees the potential for these cars to attain profits, along with a strong market for them, it is simple economic logic: that will be the route they will pursue.
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god I hope they never make one of those,it's so ugly,it could make an onion cry.

They should develop cars more in the way of the 1 series: light,compact,and great looking.
If you ask me the 1 series is the best designer work I've seen in years,on ANY car.
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love everything except the front (grill area) of that car.
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Needs to loose the rear doors!
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They should bring back the older 8 Series "Knight Rider" style. That was and still is a HOT car.

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What a waste of effort and money. Oh wow, an even BIGGER boat than the 7 series. Yay
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The car looks dated already. We've seen the front end design shape on the Z8 and it just doesn't work on a big sedan at all.
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yea the concept CS looks so tight though
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I can't believe you guys calling this ugly, but I can understand the hate for the another 4-door coupe.
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A Quattroporte looks much better than this...........
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Doesn't matter anymore- BMW has cancelled the new 8-series.....

See Leftlane News, bmwtoday.de, etc.........
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The way I think of it, if they keep coming up with crap that sells... Then its more money for them to build the cars we want. Its just a tough market right now.

Its the same thing Porsche did with the Cayenne. Built a money making car to keep the company alive, and then built greater cars after they stabilized. Perfect solution for a money problem.
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What a crappy attempt at rendering. It's a poor mix between the F01 and the Concept CS.

Wait for the real deal when it comes out.
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