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      11-21-2008, 06:47 PM   #1
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I just installed my 16 inch Blizzaks today (non-rft) and my god does the car ever have mushy steering now! It freaked me out at first, but got used to it after a while. I know now why we have RFTs. Quite the difference! I know it's due to the softer sidewall but I didn't know there would be THAT much difference.

Anybody else?
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      11-21-2008, 08:14 PM   #2
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The mushy steering is mostly due to the rubber compound that winter tires have. The difference between my summer and winter tires (both non-RFT) is night and day. When I mount the winter tires the steering effort is greatly reduced, the self-centering characteristics are greatly reduced plus tramlining is gone. It's like driving a totally different car.

And yes, you do get used to it. Every winter for the past five I've mounted Blizzak WS-50s and now WS-60s and every time I think, "my god these are squishy". After about a week or two I don't notice it.
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      11-21-2008, 11:57 PM   #3
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Blizzaks are squisher than many winter tires, which is why I don't run them. Where I am is mostly dry except for the handful of days of snow and of course 20-40 degree days. WS-50s are the worst in terms of dry squishyness. If you want a better handling snow tire in the dry, go with a higher speed rated tire from Pirelli, Michelin, etc. I am using Alpin Pilots now, pretty nice in the dry and ok in the snow.

If you get a lot of slow you'll appreciate the blizzaks.

As you mentioned, the runflats magnify the effect that much more.
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That's the trade off between good ice/snow traction and sporty handling. Unfortunately you can have more of one and less of the other either way, not both.
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Try the LM25's next time. You will get used to the blizzaks soon though, nice tire.
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      11-22-2008, 07:11 PM   #6
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I felt the exact same way when I put the Blizzak LM25s on. If you feel the knobs in the tread, you'll see they're very flexible.

If you're driving around 20 mph and steer back and forth fairly aggressively you'll feel the car roll a little extra due to the tread.
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Try a 'performance winter tire' if you are concerned with dry handling. My LM25's are a perfect combination of dry and snow performance, love them. The Dunlop wintersport M3 is also a good choice.
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