335d Engine Compartment - BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum

hotrod182 · 02-21-2009, 12:43 AM

Some pics. Wonder how this puppy will respond to tuning?

Bimmer Nerd · 02-21-2009, 12:44 AM

what kind of tunning ?? there are mods out already for 335d ??

vgame64 · 02-21-2009, 12:53 AM

The 335d should respond very favorably to tunes. Once the restrictive exhaust is removed, I anticipate 400-450whp and oodles of torque.

Of course this is all just fact-less speculation on my part on what "feels right".

shaddai · 02-21-2009, 02:05 AM

is that... a dipstick?

ar design · 02-21-2009, 02:23 AM

We already have flash tuning available

hotrod182 · 02-21-2009, 02:41 AM

It will be a fun day when the 335d is gunning for our 1/4 mile records

sd390r · 02-21-2009, 04:51 AM

you think theyll be able to make it faster than the 35i? dont know shit about diesel engines

edo · 02-21-2009, 05:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vgame64

Once the restrictive exhaust is removed, I anticipate 400-450whp and oodles of torque.

Of course this is all just fact-less speculation on my part on what "feels right".

I'd say 350-380whp. ESS reflash makes 335hp and 630Nm (335d). Keeping in mind that 335i with ESS reflash (stage 3) makes almost the same power as Vishnu or JB3, a well tuned 335d shouldn't exceed 370-380whp, imo. Nevertheless, performance would be impressive.

Dave_3 · 02-21-2009, 05:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by godora

what kind of tunning ?? there are mods out already for 335d ??

Go to the UK section - There has already been well over 2 years of development on these engines.

No need to speculate.

D.

hotrod182 · 02-21-2009, 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave_3

Go to the UK section - There has already been well over 2 years of development on these engines.

No need to speculate.

D.

I was looking at the times of this chipped 335d. Mid 13's at 105mph, right about the same as a stock 335i. But with great traction, (1.80 sec 60') high 12's are there. Not bad. How much faster will they go is the question.

http://www.dragtimes.com/BMW--335d-Drag-Racing.html

brianhn1 · 02-21-2009, 10:33 AM

I think the 335d will always need more peak power than the 335i to get similar times just because the torque curve peaks/plateaus at a much smaller RPM range. It only has a redline of 5000 RPM, compared to our 7000 RPM.

cn555ic · 02-21-2009, 12:15 PM

Wow thats nice...That engine cover is HUGE!

Insider · 02-21-2009, 02:14 PM

A tuned 335d runs 106mph in the 1/4 mile, no match for a tuned 335i.

Forrest Gump 9 · 02-22-2009, 10:04 AM

Just wondering if the 335d used the same turbo as the 335i? Anyway, the diesel engine can withstand alot more abuse than the gasoline. So 30 psi tune anyone??

hotrod182 · 02-22-2009, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Forrest Gump 9

Just wondering if the 335d used the same turbo as the 335i? Anyway, the diesel engine can withstand alot more abuse than the gasoline. So 30 psi tune anyone??

I'm pretty sure the turbo set up is totally different. Someone had even said they were sequential. I haven't had the time to read up on it though. I am really interested in the torque capacity of the transmission though. As these engines put out around 400lbs of torque stock!

stressdoc · 02-22-2009, 12:43 PM

Sequential bi-turbo. Little one for low rpm, quick spooling; big one for serious power.

Septro · 02-22-2009, 12:50 PM

Someone said 30psi.. Sounds like a stretch but it's obvious the Tranny already can take an enormous amount of stock torque, but anything in the close to 500 torque range would be brutal on traction and without the topend HP - I can't imagine beating 335i drag records.

trixman · 02-22-2009, 02:02 PM

as Dave_3 said, there's already been 2 years of development in the UK for the 335d. There have been plenty of back to back tests on road and track. The latest one had standard, press cars and tuned versions of 335i and 335d, and around the track the tuned ones were identical in lap times. So no, nothing in it at all reallly, although there's not as much tuning products available (exhausts etc)

02-21-2009, 12:43 AM	#1
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hotrod182 . Drives: 07 335i, 06 M3 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: California Posts: 3,425 iTrader: (0)	It will be a fun day when the 335d is gunning for our 1/4 mile records __________________ 2011 Alpine 335d M-Sport 12.9 @ 108.3mph 2012 LEAF 130MPGe 2008 Black 335i Sedan. 11.11@ 129.47 mph,(8.39 sec 60-130 stock turboWR) 2008 Monaco Blue JB3 2.0 335i Coupe. 11.33 @ 132.77 mph (N54 trap speed WR) 60-130mph: 6.95 seconds stock turbo WR (.16% slope)

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vgame64 Colonel Drives: BMW 335i Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: USA Posts: 2,481 iTrader: (9)	The 335d should respond very favorably to tunes. Once the restrictive exhaust is removed, I anticipate 400-450whp and oodles of torque. Of course this is all just fact-less speculation on my part on what "feels right".

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brianhn1 Lieutenant Drives: BMW Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: US Posts: 429 iTrader: (0)	I think the 335d will always need more peak power than the 335i to get similar times just because the torque curve peaks/plateaus at a much smaller RPM range. It only has a redline of 5000 RPM, compared to our 7000 RPM.

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Forrest Gump 9 New Member Drives: 07 white 335i sedan Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: ohio Posts: 22 iTrader: (0)	Just wondering if the 335d used the same turbo as the 335i? Anyway, the diesel engine can withstand alot more abuse than the gasoline. So 30 psi tune anyone??

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stressdoc Moderator Drives: 335 E90 ZSP+ Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: MO Posts: 9,341 iTrader: (0)	Sequential bi-turbo. Little one for low rpm, quick spooling; big one for serious power. __________________ My not-so-recent ED: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31829 Quaife, BMW Perf & M3 suspension, V5, M-sport, ... Please join BMWCCA http://bmwcca.org/index.php?pageid=c...&ref_by=300279

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Septro Banned Drives: '08 e90 335xi Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: C-Bus, OH Posts: 1,650 iTrader: (1)	Someone said 30psi.. Sounds like a stretch but it's obvious the Tranny already can take an enormous amount of stock torque, but anything in the close to 500 torque range would be brutal on traction and without the topend HP - I can't imagine beating 335i drag records.

02-22-2009, 02:02 PM	#18
trixman Major Drives: A Rental Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Creepy Crawley Posts: 1,219 iTrader: (1) Garage List 2007 BMW E92 335d [0.00] 2003 M3 CSL [0.00] 2007 E92 335i [0.00]	as Dave_3 said, there's already been 2 years of development in the UK for the 335d. There have been plenty of back to back tests on road and track. The latest one had standard, press cars and tuned versions of 335i and 335d, and around the track the tuned ones were identical in lap times. So no, nothing in it at all reallly, although there's not as much tuning products available (exhausts etc)

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