[GnokGnik]

The real question should be slightly used 335i or 370z.

[graider]

Originally Posted by !Xoible

again, for the 3rd time none of the above would have made a difference to me in my test drive. nothing would have added power AND i didnt get to test how it handles really, AND steering wouldnt have changed.

i see big diff too.

[!Xoible]

Originally Posted by GnokGnik

The real question should be slightly used 335i or 370z.

absolutely not! 370Z all day. i've had a 335 before, done with that

Originally Posted by graider

i see big diff too.

yah read the "update" i re-drove the car with sports package.

[Brandon26pdx]

How was the transmission when upshifting into 2nd? Can be annoyingly notchy on the 350Z I know.

[mmm def]

Originally Posted by !Xoible

absolutely not! 370Z all day. i've had a 335 before, done with that

what was wrong with the 335?

[!Xoible]

absolutely the annoyingly notchy one from 350Z/G35. but when being revved up it shifted alright. and u do get hella vibration from the shifter too.

[Year's_End]

Originally Posted by Bimmer Loyalist

LSD, fatter, stickier tires, syncro shite, godlike brakes. big diff mang.

Originally Posted by !Xoible

again, for the 3rd time none of the above would have made a difference to me in my test drive. nothing would have added power AND i didnt get to test how it handles really, AND steering wouldnt have changed.

Originally Posted by !Xoible

please! jk

so with the whole economic meltdown and shit i thought i should cut down my expenses before i get shitcanned at work and be homeless. so i started looking into a replacement for my m3. today i went ahead to test drive the 370Z

The car i test drove was kinda basic and didnt have the sports package. but i do not think it really really makes a huge fucking difference. here's what i got:

i like the alcantra touches on door panels, the leather-wrapped interior, but i couldnt ignore the cheap plastic all around. it's not a huge deal i can live with that it's a $30k car. i like the gauges and little gadgets and shits here and there. awesome! shifter is awesome, the throw is pretty good, better than the M3 for sure. keyless ignition is standard, awesome.

now i turned it off and i took off. that's when i said FUCK ME for buying an M3. now i cannot feel any other car

the car has absolutely no fucking power, like none. the engine feels so lazy in revving and once you hit 6,000 RPM or so it struggles to rev up higher although the red line is at 7500. when you go high in the RPM it makes no difference u might as well just shift there.

steering feel wasnt bad, i would say it's better than the 335 or more nimble, but felt pretty disconnected and not as precise as i would have expected from a 2 seater (i have no clue how they say this compares to the Cayman S). makes me think really low of the cayman now.

The throttle seemed more sensetive in idle than the M3. when i was double clutching i clearly over-revved i was like wow! but i got that down pretty quick.

Here's the fucked up part that really frustrated me: V fucking DC!!!! WTF with VDC kicking in so fucking much! it's so goddamn intrusive, it's ridiculous. every shift from 1st to 2nd gives a tad of a wheel spin, VDC kicks in and cuts power off, then 2nd to 3rd same issue. every time i take a turn VDC kills my power im like u know what this is not even fun at all!

u turn off VDC the car slides a tad and what not, but u get this noice with wheel spin as if u scraped the bottom of the car. it's weird.

the cockpit is so fucking noisy it's so annoying. drone and shit from stock exhaust!

here's how i would rate it: (and i dont even drive a perfect car either)
power: 3/5
steering: 2/5
interior: 4/5
handling: i cannot really say i havent pushed it enough. i hope it's good if they compare it to Cayman S
transmission: 4/5 pretty sporty, the way i like it. very different from BMW transmission but typical Nissan/infiniti transmission (aka notchy, and jerky from 1st to 2nd)
fun: 0/5 with VDC
exterior styling: shit those wide rear fenders are hot! 4.5/5

going back to my M3 i think i can never enjoy a car less than an M car. i.e. im a M badge whore now. officially.

kthxbai -_-'

Edit: btw i have test driven other cars i think the Mini S is more fun (fuck front wheel drive tho), 135i was much more fun, but the Z is way better than the s2gay

UPDATE - TEST DROVE AGAIN WITH SPORTS PACKAGE

So i went to another dealership and asked for a test drive. This test drive comes after a day of driving my car hard and kinda pushing it, then driving a brand new STi (fully broken in). The car was warmed up because somebody has just taken that car out on a test drive.

Here's my new impressions:
1. awesome navigation system

2. pussy exhaust. i prefer G35/350z or G37's exhaust, but no problemo exhaust would be first mod

3. VDC sucks ass still, too intrusive and without it the car is hella fun but really with no control. i'd like a setting somewhere in the middle (MDM? lol). But fine i can live with it on or off

4. Handling was awesome! if the M3's handling is 10/10 (which is not) then the 370z is like 8.5 or 9. I actually thought handling was great and the LSD makes a day and night difference between then non-sport and sports package. It was very nimble, a lot of fun until we get to one corner. So on the way to Irvine Nissan there's a right turn, it's pretty sharp but i was going fast in my M3 and it did fine. I took that turn with the Z and we almost crashed! i almost went over the fence to be on the freeway that was scary. the guy was like "youre the craziest man i've ever encountered on a test drive" lol

5. Power... well it does put more power and it does put you ahead of traffic. rev match it (whether you use ur foot or use the synchro-match feature thing) and BAM ur ahead of everyone. But here's my problem. The car does not feel fast. there's no torque push. and you know what that problem does exist in the M3. u see ur speedometer jumping 10 mph at a time (maybe less in the 370z) but you dont feel it Yah maybe it'll lose a drag test with the M3, but the feeling of power is pretty similar

6. Steering is definitely tighter with sports package. i was doing all kinds of crazy stuff. the car felt pretty nabil... *ahem* i mean nimble.

7. Sound inside the cabin i guess it's too noisy for a drive coming back from a long work day at 8 or 9 pm and with an aftermarket exhaust it will be noisier but it is what it is...

This car right now kind of tops the list of cars im looking into. a hair over the STi (which is a whole different story)

mhmmm told you so

[josephr25]

Originally Posted by !Xoible

absolutely the annoyingly notchy one from 350Z/G35. but when being revved up it shifted alright. and u do get hella vibration from the shifter too.

Wait until you start it on a cold morning...

Although a bit rougher than a BMW, the shifter is much better when you're flooring it. The knob fits better in your hand than the lousy stock 335i one as well (350Z)

[!Xoible]

i agree man. i loved my G35 shifter and im used to it too