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      03-07-2009, 01:49 PM   #89
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Can the PROcede do this?




That fellas is complete control of the wastegates...
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      03-07-2009, 02:03 PM   #90
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Can the PROcede do this?
You post and post and post for CPE but you dont work there, right?

Last time someone did this for a non-paying vendor I think they got banned. Just a thought....
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      03-07-2009, 02:07 PM   #91
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not a vendor. If we start parts sales, I'll take the appropriate action of becoming a sponsor here. Right now I'm just giving information about a product that is available and applicable to the n54 community.
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      03-07-2009, 02:43 PM   #92
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Can the PROcede do this?
Yes it can. Why do you think it wouldn't be able to? I'm still not sure at what your huffing and puffing about.
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Yes it can. Why do you think it wouldn't be able to? I'm still not sure at what your huffing and puffing about.

It's money, money, money. P3Performance gets the install work referrals from CPE. I really don't understand why the mods are letting this slide. It would be one thing if someone was posting valuable community information that did not stand to gain from potential install work, but someone should really be paying vendor fees if the do stand to gain revenue from pushing a product that they have a direct or indirect relationship with.

P3Performance is local to me, and these posts have really turned me off to CPE products which I was initially interested in. Just does not seem to be fair to the rest of the vendor community that chooses to play by the rules.

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Yes it can. Why do you think it wouldn't be able to? I'm still not sure at what your huffing and puffing about.
Because of the boost curve shown in the original post.
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      03-07-2009, 03:56 PM   #95
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Can the PROcede do this?
Maybe you should just challenge Shiv to a game of HORSE.
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The actual RPM point at which more boost is added (as you go up in stages) is 5000rpm. But since the PROcede interpolate between poings, you will see boost target start to deviate by 4500rpm. Stg0 should provide 12-13psi of boost. Stg 1 13-14psi. Maybe +/- 0.5PSI with temp extremes.
What about stage 2 and 3 ??

It would be nice if you could complete this very nice post indicate us the appropriate boost levels for the rest maps as well.
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Guys this thread started nicely and was really informative...but i think we've been lost somewhere on the way. I dont think that our point should be if the Procede could generates boost graphs like Zenga-towers. It obvious that Procede could have proper control of wastegates (as it does with other engines vital parameters).

I'd really like to see this discussion to revert back to a more informative manner that suits better to the philosophy of this forum
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Guys this thread started nicely and was really informative...but i think we've been lost somewhere on the way. I dont think that our point should be if the Procede could generates boost graphs like Zenga-towers. It obvious that Procede could have proper control of wastegates (as it does with other engines vital parameters).

I'd really like to see this discussion to revert back to a more informative manner that suits better to the philosophy of this forum
+1. Thanks.
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More Graphs

Okay, call me a data analysis junky, but here is some additional information that should help understand the stock and PROcede boost curves (I've also added this to my first post).

(8) Here is Boost vs. RPM for Valet Mode (Stock) and Stage 0 Overlayed on a Dual Axis [to better illustrate the differences/similarities in the boost curves]:


(9) Here is Boost vs. RPM Boost Increase for Stage 0 Over Stock [with a Trendline]:


(10) Stage 0 vs. Stock Boost Curve Analysis: The stock boost curve is obviously not flat (constant) and tailored to conditions just like the procede. The boost increase over stock graph (item 9) clearly shows the procede is very deliberate in the boost increase curve as illustrated by the trendline.

I'm done.
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      03-08-2009, 07:56 PM   #101
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So if you have a boost spike for 16psi on the stock fuel maps don't you stand the chance of running lean (apparently for 200rpm)? Seems to me this is a error in the stock tune; no?....How about some graphs of the TPS during the spike to confirm your thoughts that the throttle is still closed.?...From what I read I think you're saying it's still closed? No
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...7&postcount=87

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      03-09-2009, 12:21 PM   #102
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Probably to you anyone unwilling to drink the koolaid.
Wy should we trust you?

Shiv has proven to be knowledgeable and has a positive track record.

I understand you want to make a living but you are not winning anybody over here. Doesn't look like you made friends in Terry's camp either.

You say boost spikes are bad. Shiv says they are not. I trust Shiv.

I will happily drink the Koolaid if the alternative is a mystery drink no doubt spiked with Roofies.
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