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      04-02-2009, 12:17 AM   #45
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Hamilton/Trulli Inquiry Re-Opened.

http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?id=45422

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"According to German publication Auto Motor und Sport, Hamilton told the stewards that he had slowed because he was distracted by a message on his dashboard display – not because he was instructed by his team to give the place back to Trulli, in the (misplaced) fear that he might be penalised for his earlier pass."
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Speaking to SPEEDtv.com as he emerged from parc ferme, Hamilton was quoted as saying: “I was behind Trulli under the safety car, and clearly you’re not allowed to overtake under the safety car.
“But he went off in the second to last corner, he went wide on the grass – I guess his tyres were cold – and I was forced to go by. I slowed down as much as I could.
“I was told to let him back past, but I mean...
“I don’t know if that’s the regulations, and if it isn’t, then I should have really had third.”
The dude should learn how to lie!

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F1 is so unpredictable when it rains. its anybodies race. have to watch out for vettel too.
Yeh Vettel in the rain! Just don't get in front of him....

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Yeh Vettel in the rain! Just don't get in front of him....

That incident was 100% Hamilton's fault. He went COMPLETELY off line then hit the brakes. Thus he was way farther behind the safety car than the rules allow, which at the time was 5 car lengths. Coulthard and Vettel were following on the racing line, Coulthard noticed that he was about to overtake Hamilton, and braked accordingly. Vettel was caught out by severe braking where there shouldn't have been, and in a heavy rain no less. His collision with Coulthard was caused by a bad move on Hamiton's part.

I know I am most likely in the minority with my opinion. But that's what makes this debating all so much fun
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That incident was 100% Hamilton's fault. He went COMPLETELY off line then hit the brakes. Thus he was way farther behind the safety car than the rules allow, which at the time was 5 car lengths. Coulthard and Vettel were following on the racing line, Coulthard noticed that he was about to overtake Hamilton, and braked accordingly. Vettel was caught out by severe braking where there shouldn't have been, and in a heavy rain no less. His collision with Coulthard was caused by a bad move on Hamiton's part.

I know I am most likely in the minority with my opinion. But that's what makes this debating all so much fun
It was actually Webber not DC.... Webber was all over Hamilton till the pace car came out, in second place, IIRC Red Bull was not a happy place after the incident, 2 potential podiums blown away by an inexperienced Vettel.

Sure, Hammy was offline and slowed dramatically but, as in real life, you rear end someone and YOU are to blame : )
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hmmm...could it be an electrifying day at the track? i'm sure they've accounted for that in testing, but you never know. hell, the pit crews need a light on the car just to make sure it's safe to touch it! i think KERS is a cool concept, but it only takes one accident to ruin a potentially cool thing...the question is when is the accident going to happen?
that already happened when BMW Sauber was testing KERS sometime in 2008....
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That incident was 100% Hamilton's fault. He went COMPLETELY off line then hit the brakes. Thus he was way farther behind the safety car than the rules allow, which at the time was 5 car lengths. Coulthard and Vettel were following on the racing line, Coulthard noticed that he was about to overtake Hamilton, and braked accordingly. Vettel was caught out by severe braking where there shouldn't have been, and in a heavy rain no less. His collision with Coulthard was caused by a bad move on Hamiton's part.

I know I am most likely in the minority with my opinion. But that's what makes this debating all so much fun
i agree in most of the part (given i'm Hamilton's fan...but very disappointed with the trulli-lie drama ) but during the Japan GP 2007...that was safety car period....so many cars drive off line to keep the full wet tires moist....
actually in most SC period....u dun see too much cars kept in "racing line"...instead they accelerate and brake and swerve to keep the tire temperature (dry-warm).....
i agree it was a very bad move started with hamilton....the M Webber caught the hard brake so he braked accordingly (not to break the rule-no passing during SC and yellow)....but Vettel was obstructed by the rain so he didn't see much until the flashing LED of Webbing approaching fast.....
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that already happened when BMW Sauber was testing KERS sometime in 2008....
it's a lot different on live TV with millions watching around the world
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It was actually Webber not DC.... Webber was all over Hamilton till the pace car came out, in second place, IIRC Red Bull was not a happy place after the incident, 2 potential podiums blown away by an inexperienced Vettel.

Sure, Hammy was offline and slowed dramatically but, as in real life, you rear end someone and YOU are to blame : )
Oh yeah, different RBR driver, thanks for the head's up.
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Looks at the weather....seems like will be a wet race....
I remember watching Schumacher dominate in the rain damn near every time...brings back memories!!

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well it is Micheal Phelp's secret to sucess. Who says it doesn't work for Kimi too?
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1. ROSBERG Williams 1m36.260s
2. NAKAJIMA Williams 1m36.305s
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4. BARRICHELLO Brawn 1m36.487s
5. MASSA Ferrari 1m36.561s
6. RAIKKONEN Ferrari 1m36.646s
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8. WEBBER Red Bull 1m36.703s
9. VETTEL Red Bull 1m36.747s
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11. TRULLI Toyota 1m36.982s
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13. KUBICA BMW 1m37.039s
14. PIQUET Renault 1m37.199s
15. SUTIL Force India 1m37.241s
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18. HEIDFELD BMW 1m37.640s
19. BOURDAIS Toro Rosso 1m38.022s
20. KOVALAINEN McLaren 1m38.483s

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