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      04-02-2009, 01:24 AM   #23
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^ which thread exactly are you referring to?
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=240142

I started this in the general area and it was moved here.
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^, in reference to that thread, I don't see your post but the OP was not running a Dinan tune anyway
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I'm curious about how this will affect my factory warranty now. How will BMW know, and if they find out, are all bets off the table for anything, even things seemingly unrelated? What about the oil changes and scheduled maintenance?
Your VIN is recorded with Dinan AND BMW when you get flashed. It will be in your records at whatever dealer you go to.
Your BMW warranty and Dinan's will work hand in hand. You shouldn't even notice a difference. Oil changes etc... will still be covered by BMW. Any failures related to the tune(or as a result of the tune) will be covered by dinan. Pretty simple.
I was just at the dealer and was upgraded to the new 32.2 software and had my brake lines flushed for my 15,000 mile service all free of charge by BMW. My dinan was also updated to the newest software free of charge by Dinan. Dinan reimburses the dealer for all related work and labor charges affected by Dinan software/parts.
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Your VIN is recorded with Dinan AND BMW when you get flashed. It will be in your records at whatever dealer you go to.
Your BMW warranty and Dinan's will work hand in hand. You shouldn't even notice a difference. Oil changes etc... will still be covered by BMW. Any failures related to the tune(or as a result of the tune) will be covered by dinan. Pretty simple.
I was just at the dealer and was upgraded to the new 32.2 software and had my brake lines flushed for my 15,000 mile service all free of charge by BMW. My dinan was also updated to the newest software free of charge by Dinan. Dinan reimburses the dealer for all related work and labor charges affected by Dinan software/parts.
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It's not true that any dealer will know about it. I had my SA look it up to see if it's in the system and it's not. He knows about it but said he wasn't going to put it in.
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Well theres warranty issues with all the tunes. The only way to keep your warranty for sure is to not mod. Ill have my jb+ anyday now and if Elliott goes with dinan we will have to do a nice little comparo since we are so close. Id contact dinan to ask about the warranty situation now and in the near future.

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[quote=canesr1;4834042]Your VIN is recorded with Dinan AND BMW when you get flashed. It will be in your records at whatever dealer you go to.
Your BMW warranty and Dinan's will work hand in hand. You shouldn't even notice a difference. Oil changes etc... will still be covered by BMW. Any failures related to the tune(or as a result of the tune) will be covered by dinan. Pretty simple.
I was just at the dealer and was upgraded to the new 32.2 software and had my brake lines flushed for my 15,000 mile service all free of charge by BMW. My dinan was also updated to the newest software free of charge by Dinan. Dinan reimburses the dealer for all related work and labor charges affected by Dinan software/parts.
Don't worry, GO FOR IT!!!![/QUOTED]

Yes Dinan records your VIN, but I had my flash done at an authorized independent shop so therefore it's not going to be in any BMW dealership system/records..
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I've had Dinan products on other BMW's and had things repaired under warranty, Dinan's, with no problem what so ever. I would expect this to be true of N54 products. Not going to debate any tune vs another as this is a somewhat subjective topic as they all do what they are supposed to do and all are visible to a certain extent depending on what you do or run period. As far as your dealer knowing, Dinan registers your car with BMW and that should be visible by all dealers, which was the case in my previous cars. Why one SA did not see this as in the previous posts, who knows but that is the agreement between Dinan and BMW. I personally am simply waiting right now on BMW's performance tune to be a reality and see what happens there as having a solid warranty is imperative with these cars, owned modded BMW's since 92 and know what a warranty or lack there of will get you first hand. I would not worry with this product in the current climate at BMW.
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Your VIN is recorded with Dinan AND BMW when you get flashed. It will be in your records at whatever dealer you go to.
Your BMW warranty and Dinan's will work hand in hand. You shouldn't even notice a difference. Oil changes etc... will still be covered by BMW. Any failures related to the tune(or as a result of the tune) will be covered by dinan. Pretty simple.
I was just at the dealer and was upgraded to the new 32.2 software and had my brake lines flushed for my 15,000 mile service all free of charge by BMW. My dinan was also updated to the newest software free of charge by Dinan. Dinan reimburses the dealer for all related work and labor charges affected by Dinan software/parts.
Don't worry, GO FOR IT!!!!
Has anyone with a Dinan flash had to take their car in for hpfp failures? And if so was there an issue getting it covered by BMW or was it pushed back to Dinan for coverage under their warranty?
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Has anyone with a Dinan flash had to take their car in for hpfp failures? And if so was there an issue getting it covered by BMW or was it pushed back to Dinan for coverage under their warranty?
yes brought car in for HPFP , they replaced it same day. flashed the software back to original bmw spec as the service bulletin stated.

no warranty problems no grief, just had to reflash at dinan a few weeks later.
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I've had Dinan products on other BMW's and had things repaired under warranty, Dinan's, with no problem what so ever. I would expect this to be true of N54 products. Not going to debate any tune vs another as this is a somewhat subjective topic as they all do what they are supposed to do and all are visible to a certain extent depending on what you do or run period. As far as your dealer knowing, Dinan registers your car with BMW and that should be visible by all dealers, which was the case in my previous cars. Why one SA did not see this as in the previous posts, who knows but that is the agreement between Dinan and BMW. I personally am simply waiting right now on BMW's performance tune to be a reality and see what happens there as having a solid warranty is imperative with these cars, owned modded BMW's since 92 and know what a warranty or lack there of will get you first hand. I would not worry with this product in the current climate at BMW.

Dinan and BMW have severed their agreement so I don't think Dinan registers the car with BMW anymore
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Do you have a source to point me to?

When was this to become effective?

April 1st was yesterday.
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April 1st was yesterday.
This is what my dearlership informed me, because they used to support Dinan products but no longer..
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This is what my dearlership informed me, because they used to support Dinan products but no longer..
My local dealer informed me of the same thing last Spring. Ofcourse, then I go to another dealer and have it installed. During install they hinted the same idea however, they are still strong and endorsing Dinan/BMW relationship as stable ......

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Your VIN is recorded with Dinan AND BMW when you get flashed. It will be in your records at whatever dealer you go to.
Your BMW warranty and Dinan's will work hand in hand. You shouldn't even notice a difference. Oil changes etc... will still be covered by BMW. Any failures related to the tune(or as a result of the tune) will be covered by dinan. Pretty simple.
I was just at the dealer and was upgraded to the new 32.2 software and had my brake lines flushed for my 15,000 mile service all free of charge by BMW. My dinan was also updated to the newest software free of charge by Dinan. Dinan reimburses the dealer for all related work and labor charges affected by Dinan software/parts.
Don't worry, GO FOR IT!!!![/QUOTED]

Yes Dinan records your VIN, but I had my flash done at an authorized independent shop so therefore it's not going to be in any BMW dealership system/records..
Wow the misinformation on here is almost as much as the information!! You are wrong too. Only reason its not there is because someone4 forgot to add you in. How do I know this? I too was flashed at an independent shop. My home dealer where I bought the car was Dinan, next dealer visit, they told me at check in that BMW shows I have Dinan stage II. Then couple months later at yet another BMW non-Dinan dealer different state, they had to do software update, they warned me that records show I am Dinan flashed, and that I'd loose it if they flashed me since they could not reflashg it back on. For that, I'd have to visit a Dinan center... Ok, thats what happened, so no BMW definitely knows because Dinan reports it to them.
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Wow the misinformation on here is almost as much as the information!! You are wrong too. Only reason its not there is because someone4 forgot to add you in. How do I know this? I too was flashed at an independent shop. My home dealer where I bought the car was Dinan, next dealer visit, they told me at check in that BMW shows I have Dinan stage II. Then couple months later at yet another BMW non-Dinan dealer different state, they had to do software update, they warned me that records show I am Dinan flashed, and that I'd loose it if they flashed me since they could not reflashg it back on. For that, I'd have to visit a Dinan center... Ok, thats what happened, so no BMW definitely knows because Dinan reports it to them.
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yes brought car in for HPFP , they replaced it same day. flashed the software back to original bmw spec as the service bulletin stated.

no warranty problems no grief, just had to reflash at dinan a few weeks later.
Thats really good to hear, I had heard otherwise.. I guess it was all hearsay.
Another question though in regard to the Dinan and the warranty, is the warranty cover you up to 50,000 miles or 100,000 miles. Reason why I am asking is I have seen else where that BMW cannot CPO a car that has been moded by Dinan software, and if a car cannot be CPO'd thats a nice drop in the resale value.... Has anyone else heard this as well?
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Thats really good to hear, I had heard otherwise.. I guess it was all hearsay.
Another question though in regard to the Dinan and the warranty, is the warranty cover you up to 50,000 miles or 100,000 miles. Reason why I am asking is I have seen else where that BMW cannot CPO a car that has been moded by Dinan software, and if a car cannot be CPO'd thats a nice drop in the resale value.... Has anyone else heard this as well?
Haven't heard that, but I know the Dinan warranty is a matching new car warranty that is good for only first 4 years or 50,000 miles though..
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Haven't heard that, but I know the Dinan warranty is a matching new car warranty that is good for only first 4 years or 50,000 miles though..
Now say if a 2008 335i is CPO'ed then flashed by Dinan by the new owner, I doubt the CPO would still be valid until 100,000...esp if this talk about the severed relationship b/w BMW and Dinan is true...
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Haven't heard that, but I know the Dinan warranty is a matching new car warranty that is good for only first 4 years or 50,000 miles though..
Apparently this was discussed before..
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Thats really good to hear, I had heard otherwise.. I guess it was all hearsay.
Another question though in regard to the Dinan and the warranty, is the warranty cover you up to 50,000 miles or 100,000 miles. Reason why I am asking is I have seen else where that BMW cannot CPO a car that has been moded by Dinan software, and if a car cannot be CPO'd thats a nice drop in the resale value.... Has anyone else heard this as well?
It is true that any vehicle with a history of having Dinan sw installed CAN NOT be CPO'd for resale. This is stated by BMW and I have yet to hear anyone say otherwise. Most recently, my SM mentioned this to me within a conversation concerning resale value.
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