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      04-15-2009, 10:23 PM   #23
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(Jeremy Clarkson Voice) "Will Heikki Kovalainen finish more than one lap? Will Ferrari stop sucking? Will Lewis Hamilton stop being a puss and win a race? Watch and find out!
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I can't wait. What a great season.
Brawn GP is such a great story. Honda wouldn't be in first place anyway - they're using Mercedes engines.
Red Bull cars are running very well too - and they don't have the magic diffusor, so I'm not sure it's going to help out McLaren and Ferrari once they get a chance to develop it properly.
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Thanks for more F1 porn E90SLAM.

It's truly incredible how they pack those cars for shipping. Seeing them all in their protective cases is a pretty cool sight.
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Thanks for more F1 porn E90SLAM.

It's truly incredible how they pack those cars for shipping. Seeing them all in their protective cases is a pretty cool sight.
What protective shipping???
That's the new aerodyamic regulations for 2010 season!!!!
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Renault and McLaren will be using revised diffusers in China

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/8002297.stm
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Renault and McLaren will be using revised diffusers in China

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Here's the McLaren one...
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Ok I am new to the F1 bug. I finally started to Tivo the races, and I think the addiction will grow. One thing that is bugging the hell outta me! What is the difference in the diffusers.

I keep looking at pictures between the Brawn & Ferrari and I am just not seeing the major difference. What am I missing please help.
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Looks like Ferrari will not use KERS in China.
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Ok I am new to the F1 bug. I finally started to Tivo the races, and I think the addiction will grow. One thing that is bugging the hell outta me! What is the difference in the diffusers.

I keep looking at pictures between the Brawn & Ferrari and I am just not seeing the major difference. What am I missing please help.
Look at these 2 images.

The Toyota F109 design allows more air to travel further along the taller central diffuser allowing for more aero manipulation giving more downforce.



The McLaren MP4-20 diffuser cuts short the volume or air that is effected by the central diffuser compared to the Toyota design & what air mass is there doesn't have the same level of manipulation giving less downforce in comparison.



The Brawn diffuser seems even more efficient than the Toyota & the Ferrari diffuser is similar to McLarens.

Hope that helps.

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Looking forward to this race, it should be another good one!
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Look at these 2 images.

The Toyota F109 design allows more air to travel further along the taller central diffuser allowing for more aero manipulation giving more downforce.



The McLaren MP4-20 diffuser cuts short the volume or air that is effected by the central diffuser compared to the Toyota design & what air mass is there doesn't have the same level of manipulation giving less downforce in comparison.



The Brawn diffuser seems even more efficient than the Toyota & the Ferrari diffuser is similar to McLarens.

Hope that helps.

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Thank you for the response. But I could not see the images so I did some digging and think I have a grasp on the difference!

Kind of funny on a side note Hamilton & Kovalainen fastest in first practice with interim diffusers. How long will Brawn's reign last once the others convert and catch up.
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What's up with the BMWs!? Kubica got eliminated in Q1
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...and Heid got eliminated in Q2
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Looks like another Brawn race. The first three cars are quite a bit lighter than Rubens and Jenson, and Rubens is 2litre heavier. Look forward to the race tomorrow.
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worse finish for kubica this is upsetting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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