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      06-09-2009, 03:03 AM   #23
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Throttle response is much much quicker when in M mode and POWER is set to SPORT PLUS The other settings deliver the power much smoother.
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Throttle response is much much quicker when in M mode and POWER is set to SPORT PLUS The other settings deliver the power much smoother.
I concur!!

I even drive most of the time with EDC set to comfort which seems a better compromise.
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I have had the car a week now and with the 'M' button set to sport plus etc there is more than enough power. What I have found is with the car being so smooth you don't realise how fast you are actually going. Had a scary moment on the M69 yesterday when I was thrashing it ... saw a cop car flashing its lights up ahead and thought I am done for but luckily for me he had stopped someone else!
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Just drove mine back from the Airport this Morning and I have to say I really miss that twin turbo 335i feeling I used to have those cars fly ,but if you really give the M some beens it does come alive but I am on the look out for more low down power so will be talking to the Evolve Guys shortly.
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      06-09-2009, 03:55 AM   #27
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The only thing I can say is that if you want a smooth easy to drive (as in power low down) car then a 335i/d is the way to go... if however you want a properly sorted chassis and instant throttle response, then the M3 is the way to go. Both are stunning cars, but only with some serious money spent on it will the 335's get close to a stock M3 for handling.
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      06-09-2009, 03:59 AM   #28
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yes I agree 100 % the handling of the M is way way better than the 335 , really firmly planted for sure.
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At the 'Ring my car always felt solid and in control, the 335's out there looked pretty ragid when doing similar/faster times... even the fettled ones. Problem is, you don't get to access this difference till your REALLY pressing on, which is very rare and very dagerous to your licence on UK roads.
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Had a scary moment on the M69 yesterday when I was thrashing it ... saw a cop car flashing its lights up ahead and thought I am done for but luckily for me he had stopped someone else!
Me too! was it the one who pulled somebody up near the end before it joins the M1 about 1900ish?
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      06-09-2009, 02:23 PM   #31
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Yes Steve thats exactly the one! I couldn't make out which car he had stopped but it was about that time.
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      06-10-2009, 02:52 AM   #32
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Just drove mine back from the Airport this Morning and I have to say I really miss that twin turbo 335i feeling I used to have those cars fly ,but if you really give the M some beens it does come alive but I am on the look out for more low down power so will be talking to the Evolve Guys shortly.

Mikeybmw.......the whole point of N/A is the instant throttle response and progressive power increase with RPM, by definition it will be like this. The 335i motor is laggy and has a wooly throttle response at low revs (and sounds v poor) no matter what anyone says, you still get that press-wait-off-we-go effect, even if its 1/2 a second of so it still upsets the car in corners. This is worse is higher gears at lower revs.

I am suprised you have bought an M3 if you weren't a real fan of N/A motors and their inherent characteristics?

That lazy torque of the my 335i is was I don't like. I still find myself downshifting to get it up to 4k or so before accelerating, then the damn thing runs out of puff at 5,500rpm.

I'll do you a swap ;-)
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I'm scratching my head and wondering whether the DSC is holding it back slightly? I find the light is quite easy to miss so maybe that's kicking in a bit? Is there any way that there's a degree of traction control that takes place before it deems it necessary to flash a yellow light at you? (I've only had it 5 days so DSC has stayed ON!)
For sure..

The light only flashes when you've really over cooked it, there's loads of traction control and power limiting going on well before the light actually flashes. Even slight bumps or white lines will have the power being backed off before you can even sense any slip at all.

Try backing off the traction (not sure whats its called on an M3, its DTC on the non-m3's) That should liven things up a bit.

On my 335i, putting DTC on seems to add about 50bhp!
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M Dynamic Mode frees up the traction control a little but not fully, so try that as well

Although, be careful as the car easily goes sideways
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      06-10-2009, 06:06 PM   #35
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For sure..

The light only flashes when you've really over cooked it, there's loads of traction control and power limiting going on well before the light actually flashes. Even slight bumps or white lines will have the power being backed off before you can even sense any slip at all.

Try backing off the traction (not sure whats its called on an M3, its DTC on the non-m3's) That should liven things up a bit.

On my 335i, putting DTC on seems to add about 50bhp!
Ahh interesting...will try everything out on the way to/from Le Mans and report back!
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Mikeybmw.......the whole point of N/A is the instant throttle response and progressive power increase with RPM, by definition it will be like this. The 335i motor is laggy and has a wooly throttle response at low revs (and sounds v poor) no matter what anyone says, you still get that press-wait-off-we-go effect, even if its 1/2 a second of so it still upsets the car in corners. This is worse is higher gears at lower revs.

I am suprised you have bought an M3 if you weren't a real fan of N/A motors and their inherent characteristics?

That lazy torque of the my 335i is was I don't like. I still find myself downshifting to get it up to 4k or so before accelerating, then the damn thing runs out of puff at 5,500rpm.

I'll do you a swap ;-)
dont think i said i was not a fan of na engines ? just said that I loved the way my 335 took off ,no lag with mine buddy and like a balistic missle all the way up the revs ,you must have a bad one if you think there a bit hesitant, anyway i bought the M3 cause i luv um

enough said !
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dont think i said i was not a fan of na engines ? just said that I loved the way my 335 took off ,no lag with mine buddy and like a balistic missle all the way up the revs ,you must have a bad one if you think there a bit hesitant, anyway i bought the M3 cause i luv um

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335i has more lag than my old audi a3 2.0TFSI. Thats for sure. At least one second count from press the gas to off-we-go. I count one-thousand, two........ You get a small pick up immediately, then the boost comes on later.

But mines a manual, I only test drove autos which seemed to blur the 2 stage acceleration sensation into one marshmallow surge anyway.

DMS map should sort this hopefully....
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If you love um, don't moan about um!

335i has more lag than my old audi a3 2.0TFSI. Thats for sure. At least one second count from press the gas to off-we-go. I count one-thousand, two........ You get a small pick up immediately, then the boost comes on later.

But mines a manual, I only test drove autos which seemed to blur the 2 stage acceleration sensation into one marshmallow surge anyway.

DMS map should sort this hopefully....
Are you for real pal , when have I moaned about the car ,get real will you if I didn't like it I wouldn't of bought it would I , now shut up as your getting on my wick now.

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Are you for real pal , when have I moaned about the car ,get real will you if I didn't like it I wouldn't of bought it would I , now shut up as your getting on my wick now.

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I have to say I really miss that twin turbo 335i feeling............I am on the look out for more low down power so will be talking to the Evolve Guys shortly.
Sorry pal. Mis read you. Shutted up.
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Congrats mate Nice colour combo.

My sentiments as I felt the M3 does not have mid range torque - especially around 4k to 5K as well compared to my E60 M5. I think ESS has a point - wonder how much that bulge costs?
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