E90Post
 


TireRack
 
BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum > E90 / E92 / E93 3-series Powertrain and Drivetrain Discussions > N54 Turbo Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust Modifications - 335i > Juice Box Stage 3 ($375) or active autowerke($1200) ?



Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      07-04-2009, 03:12 PM   #23
skate_E92
Lieutenant
skate_E92's Avatar
United_States
8
Rep
596
Posts

 
Drives: 09' e92 335i
Join Date: May 2009
Location: SoCal

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by coldasicex5 View Post
What's AA?


i think this is AA... just out of curiosity what other cars/tunes does burger motorsports work with, i tried looking them up and i only found the n54 products please fill me in!?!?
__________________
TX. 2 CA.
Appreciate 0
      07-04-2009, 03:23 PM   #24
hotrod182
.
hotrod182's Avatar
84
Rep
3,461
Posts

 
Drives: 07 335i, 06 M3
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: California

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by skateDFWe92 View Post


i think this is AA... just out of curiosity what other cars/tunes does burger motorsports work with, i tried looking them up and i only found the n54 products please fill me in!?!?
How many platforms they work with has nothing to do with their success, as the N54 is a different animal than your typical engine. The fact that they specialize in BMWs is actually a + in my book. I would rather choose a Dinan, or BMS product than one of these tuner box companies advertising on Ebay that make products for many different car brands.
__________________
2011 Alpine 335d M-Sport 12.34 @ 110.48mph
2012 LEAF 130MPGe
2008 Black 335i Sedan. 11.11@ 129.47 mph,(8.39 sec 60-130 stock turboWR)
2008 Monaco Blue JB3 2.0 335i Coupe. 11.33 @ 132.77 mph (N54 trap speed WR)
60-130mph: 6.95 seconds stock turbo WR (.16% slope)
Appreciate 0
      07-04-2009, 03:53 PM   #25
PaulBailey@ltbmw
General
PaulBailey@ltbmw's Avatar
Italy
339
Rep
26,780
Posts

 
Drives: 2-325 330 2-335 2-Z4 2-135 X5d
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Huntington Beach, CA

iTrader: (34)

Garage List
Send a message via AIM to PaulBailey@ltbmw
JB3 or PROcede.
I wouldn't consider AA for the price.
Appreciate 0
      07-04-2009, 04:20 PM   #26
dirtyylicous
Swagger on a trillion
dirtyylicous's Avatar
8
Rep
370
Posts

 
Drives: IS300
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: CT

iTrader: (0)

Def the JB3...

Bang for the buck and have money left over for a BT cable which is a must IMO
Appreciate 0
      07-04-2009, 05:45 PM   #27
BavarianBullet
Lieutenant
BavarianBullet's Avatar
United_States
5
Rep
429
Posts

 
Drives: 2014 Audi S5
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Connecticut

iTrader: (1)

JB3 pinout is under $400 and it's not much harder to install than the true PnP harness version of the JB3 (or procede I'd guess).

I started with the JB3 pinout which is easy to install but because the fuel pumps on the N54 seem to have as little as a 5k mi die&swap interval, you're better off picking a tune that's easy to remove (before service). The pinout isn't bad but I found it tends to scratch up the wires and may leave telltale signs you've played with the DME/ECU where the true PnP version would not.

Both will wake up your car an unbelievable amount.
__________________
2014 Audi S5 DSG
2011 335xi Sedan (retired)
2008 335xi Sedan (retired)
Appreciate 0
      07-04-2009, 06:47 PM   #28
SiKh335i
Banned
United_States
22
Rep
1,717
Posts

 
Drives: E90 JB 335i
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: East Bay Area

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2007 335i  [0.00]
Send a message via AIM to SiKh335i
Vishnu V3 + AFE DCI(Oiled) run that combo =) I'm a Fan.
Appreciate 0
      07-04-2009, 09:31 PM   #29
bobbynoway
Private First Class
1
Rep
186
Posts

 
Drives: 135i
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Sydney

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by roadkillrob View Post
Forget about AA - they forgot about updates long ago - as stated above, the only 2 tunes really playing right now are the JB3 and the procede.

The JB3 plug and play is actually $579 - the price you have is for the pinout version - do yourself a favor and get the PNP. The procede is just over a grand and provides some more user adjustment and is easier to update, has logging etc, so if you want that stuff, the procede might be worth the extra dough.

The other option on the horizon are some flashes - the one from GIAC may be promising and not a bad price, put for now the piggybacks are ruling.
This is the best unbised opinion so far.
You should research the different tunes and buy accordinly to your needs.
I went with JB3 BTW because of bang for your buck, I didnt require "data logging".
Appreciate 0
      07-04-2009, 09:34 PM   #30
Nebster
Brigadier General
Nebster's Avatar
United_States
44
Rep
3,608
Posts

 
Drives: E92 BMW 335i
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Plainfield, IL

iTrader: (4)

Send a message via AIM to Nebster
i'd go with a LET stage 2 flash tune + exhaust.

340 whp on a dyno dynamics and 370 torque.
__________________

detailing in the greater chicago area.
Legal Disclaimer: Anything I or anyone else says about my vehicle on this website, pertaining to modifications does not actually represent anything actually existing on my car, and thus, cannot be held against me in any issues, i.e. warranty claims, that may arise.
Appreciate 0
      07-04-2009, 11:26 PM   #31
Mike@N54Tuning.com
BimmerPost Supporting Vendor
Canada
480
Rep
15,051
Posts


 
Drives: 07335i
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Earth

iTrader: (88)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bmuenster02 View Post
they have a deal its $579 for the JB3 but for $100 more you get the dual cone intake combo...is that a nice set of intakes or is their better?
The JB3/DCI combo is a great deal and I am happy i can offer it to the community

The BMS intake performs great and looks good. There are flashier intakes for many hundreds more but they yield no differences in performance. I have sold over 200 DCI in the last 6 months and everybody is very happy with them.

The JB3/DCI combo also qualifies you for free shipping currently so its an even better deal

Mike
__________________
LOWEST PRICE GURANTEE ON ALL PRODUCTS - www.n54tuning.com - Email; Mike@n54tuning.com
NEW PERFORMANCE LINE N54 DOWNPIPES & M3/M4 & F30 ER DOWNPIPES NOW IN STOCK - ER N54 CHARPE PIPE SPECIALS - NEW JB4 G5 ISO for N54 and F30 N55 ON SALE - NEW S55 M3/M4 JB4 NOW SHIPPING
Appreciate 0
      07-05-2009, 12:16 AM   #32
skate_E92
Lieutenant
skate_E92's Avatar
United_States
8
Rep
596
Posts

 
Drives: 09' e92 335i
Join Date: May 2009
Location: SoCal

iTrader: (1)

dont get me wrong the dyno results from jb3's make the product very tempting but active autowerke said it throws no codes ( i searched and couldnt find any, please post a link if you know of any aa problems) and said they have invisible flash, downpipes and oilcooler all on the way. i have no experience with these products or even turbo cars i just dont think aa is as bad as some people are making it sound.????
__________________
TX. 2 CA.
Appreciate 0
      07-05-2009, 03:28 AM   #33
enrita
Major General
enrita's Avatar
Sweden
94
Rep
7,331
Posts

 
Drives: 335i - Big turbos
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Italian in Sweden

iTrader: (0)

Than wait for AA to release all those products maybe in Q4 and be the first one to try them out. We will be waiting for a nice rewiew!
__________________
07 335i AT - TD St.2 Turbos - COBB (Custom Cobb mapping by http://www.protuningfreaks.com/) - JB4G5 ISO - Okada Coils - NGK 5992 Plugs - E85 Walbro - Injen Intake - Helix IC - Snow Stg. 3 - Stett CP - AR DPs - midpipes 100 HJS Cats - Bastuck Quad - PSS10 - QUAIFE LSD - BMS OCC - Forge DVs - AR OC - ALCON BBK - M3 Chassi - Dinan CP - Velocity M rear Toe arms - Advan RZ-DF - Level 10 AT upgrade - Alpina AT Flash
Appreciate 0
      07-05-2009, 02:59 PM   #34
skate_E92
Lieutenant
skate_E92's Avatar
United_States
8
Rep
596
Posts

 
Drives: 09' e92 335i
Join Date: May 2009
Location: SoCal

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by enrita View Post
Than wait for AA to release all those products maybe in Q4 and be the first one to try them out. We will be waiting for a nice rewiew!
sounds good, whats Q4? and did you notice a big difference after the quaife LSD?
__________________
TX. 2 CA.
Appreciate 0
      07-05-2009, 04:57 PM   #35
bulldog x6
Major General
65
Rep
5,022
Posts

 
Drives: x6 panzer
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: probably work

iTrader: (28)

Quote:
Originally Posted by lawdude View Post
I think it uses a 12 step program
lol, step 1, admit youre addicted to boost
Appreciate 0
      07-05-2009, 04:59 PM   #36
bulldog x6
Major General
65
Rep
5,022
Posts

 
Drives: x6 panzer
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: probably work

iTrader: (28)

Quote:
Originally Posted by skateDFWe92 View Post
sounds good, whats Q4?
the 4th quarter, as in the last 3 months of the year
Appreciate 0
      07-05-2009, 05:52 PM   #37
jippii ensio
Major
13
Rep
1,230
Posts

 
Drives: 335i
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: On the road

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by skateDFWe92 View Post
dont get me wrong the dyno results from jb3's make the product very tempting but active autowerke said it throws no codes ( i searched and couldnt find any, please post a link if you know of any aa problems) and said they have invisible flash, downpipes and oilcooler all on the way. i have no experience with these products or even turbo cars i just dont think aa is as bad as some people are making it sound.????
LOL!!
AA has yet to take the first step: admit that they are 2 years behind everybody else. All their N54 products are invisible, except the flash after its launch in 2015.
Appreciate 0
      07-05-2009, 06:10 PM   #38
midlife
ocasionally in crisis
midlife's Avatar
28
Rep
2,359
Posts

 
Drives: '08 335i cabrio
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: ..........

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by skateDFWe92 View Post
dont get me wrong the dyno results from jb3's make the product very tempting .....
but active autowerke said it throws no codes ( i searched and couldnt find any, please post a link if you know of any aa problems)
...... and said they have invisible flash, downpipes and oilcooler all on the way. i have no experience with these products or even turbo cars i just dont think aa is as bad as some people are making it sound.????
LOL, i can give you a tune that will give you an extra 10 whp and it will never throw a code

seriously, i have been using BMS products since their first JB1 tune - i am on JB3 now - and i have never thrown a juicebox related code.
...only time i threw a code was when my methanol nozzle sprung a leak.

AA has downpipes and oil cooler on the way ?? a bit late no ??
... i have had my UR catless dps on for almost a year and a half now, and my VK oil cooler has been in my car since last summer.

the AA tune to date has few users, but i will say that some like the AA intercooler.
note that the aa ecu tune faded pretty fast once proceede and BMS juicebox products hit their stride well over a year ago.

i am not trying to bash AA cause they have had many sucesses in OTHER platforms. but if you want power now or soon, i would not wait for them.

my 2 cents
__________________
If your car isn't scary - it's just not fast enough !
RPI IC / UR catless DPs / JB3 2.0 beta / UR CAI / Quaife LSD / Snow Methanol Injection / VK oil cooler upgrade / Forge DVs /
M3 rear sway / Riss catch can / Paddle shifting 6AT / M Sport steering wheel / Logic 7 / Dunlop Direzza Z1 255/235 /
Appreciate 0
      07-05-2009, 06:18 PM   #39
roozie2001
Just some guy
roozie2001's Avatar
United_States
23
Rep
1,529
Posts

 
Drives: 2008 White 335i sedan
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Houston, TX

iTrader: (4)

jb3 ftw. If you dont care about being a dyno queen and u want real world power. its the way to go
__________________
2008 BMW 335i/Sedan/Alpine White/Terra/Steptronic/Premium Package/Sports package/Comfort Access/USB/Sirius
Appreciate 0
      07-06-2009, 11:58 AM   #40
M II
United_States
29
Rep
1,210
Posts

 
Drives:
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: La Habra, CA

iTrader: (0)

JB3 is definitely the way to go, and like everyone else has said, do yourself a favor and get the PnP version you won't regret it.
Appreciate 0
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:06 PM.




e90post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST