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      11-26-2006, 02:05 PM   #23
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$1,300 for the xede-only kit (Stage 0) and Shiv's tests have shown that on 94 octane gas, these Xede-modded 335i's are making 330 WHP and 365 lbs./ft. TQ to the wheels (with stock exhaust)! Well, we have 93 octane Prem gas here in FL, so we expect similar results with the $1,300 Xede-only kit...we'll know in about 3 weeks! No need to spend $3k!
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because it's cheap, reliable, reversible (you can take it off so it won't void your warranty), and will make you significantly faster than cars $10,000 less, instead of being just marginally faster.
Ok...let me clarify my thoughts.

A standard 335i costs in my country an amount of 62000Euros (close to 82000 US$) while in US it costs something like 42000 US$ (31.000Euros).

My question is : If YOU ever paid such money for a car ,would you risk in making any "mods" that could possibly ruin its reliability and affect its lifetime?

Let me have your comments on this
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A standard 335i costs in my country an amount of 62000Euros (close to 82000 US$) while in US it costs something like 42000 US$ (31.000Euros).

The 335i in Europe doesnt have the Logic 7 speakers as a standard ,so i had to pay extra for those as well other "small" things.
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Ok...let me clarify my thoughts.

A standard 335i costs in my country an amount of 62000Euros (close to 82000 US$) while in US it costs something like 42000 US$ (31.000Euros).

My question is : If YOU ever paid such money for a car ,would you risk in making any "mods" that could possibly ruin its reliability and affect its lifetime?

Let me have your comments on this
Some will, some won't. I'm in the "some will" category.

BTW Panoz, are you male or female?
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      11-26-2006, 02:29 PM   #27
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LOL...I'm male.
Why?
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      11-26-2006, 04:16 PM   #28
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LOL...I'm male.
Why?
Please don't take offense, but even if they don't want to mod their vehicle, men usually understand why others do.
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      11-26-2006, 04:25 PM   #29
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My question is : If YOU ever paid such money for a car ,would you risk in making any "mods" that could possibly ruin its reliability and affect its lifetime?

Let me have your comments on this
Okay I don't believe that a properly designed and implemented modification will potentially ruin the car's reliability. There are many ways to make power. Some ways are safeer than others. The approach a tuner adopts is usually a byproduct of what tuning means they have at the given time. With the Xede, we're able to run the car richer than stock (as rich as 10.5:1) with a healthy margin of safety against knock. We're also able to implement dynamic conditional timing retard to guard against knock during sudden changes of engine load (where knock is most common). By any standard, the tune is safe and stable. Boost pressures are also conservative, 10.5psi peak and falling off to 9psi at redline. The thing that is hard for many to accept is that factory tunes are not designed for max. power. They are designed to achieve the power/economy/emissions goals specified by marketing/market needs. Not every user has the same exact mixture of criteria. And that's were tuners come in. And that is also when smiles get really wide and burn-out marks get really long.

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Okay I don't believe that a properly designed and implemented modification will potentially ruin the car's reliability. There are many ways to make power. Some ways are safeer than others. The approach a tuner adopts is usually a byproduct of what tuning means they have at the given time. With the Xede, we're able to run the car richer than stock (as rich as 10.5:1) with a healthy margin of safety against knock. We're also able to implement dynamic conditional timing retard to guard against knock during sudden changes of engine load (where knock is most common). By any standard, the tune is safe and stable. Boost pressures are also conservative, 10.5psi peak and falling off to 9psi at redline. The thing that is hard for many to accept is that factory tunes are not designed for max. power. They are designed to achieve the power/economy/emissions goals specified by marketing/market needs. Not every user has the same exact mixture of criteria. And that's were tuners come in. And that is also when smiles get really wide and burn-out marks get really long.

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      11-26-2006, 04:52 PM   #31
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Okay I don't believe that a properly designed and implemented modification will potentially ruin the car's reliability. There are many ways to make power. Some ways are safeer than others. The approach a tuner adopts is usually a byproduct of what tuning means they have at the given time. With the Xede, we're able to run the car richer than stock (as rich as 10.5:1) with a healthy margin of safety against knock. We're also able to implement dynamic conditional timing retard to guard against knock during sudden changes of engine load (where knock is most common). By any standard, the tune is safe and stable. Boost pressures are also conservative, 10.5psi peak and falling off to 9psi at redline. The thing that is hard for many to accept is that factory tunes are not designed for max. power. They are designed to achieve the power/economy/emissions goals specified by marketing/market needs. Not every user has the same exact mixture of criteria. And that's were tuners come in. And that is also when smiles get really wide and burn-out marks get really long.
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Please don't take offense, but even if they don't want to mod their vehicle, men usually understand why others do.
Heh..I want to have it "moded" like crazy!! I just dont trust anyone's hands to touch my car's engine...

I will may bring it to US for some add-ons !!!
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Okay I don't believe that a properly designed and implemented modification will potentially ruin the car's reliability. There are many ways to make power. Some ways are safeer than others. The approach a tuner adopts is usually a byproduct of what tuning means they have at the given time. With the Xede, we're able to run the car richer than stock (as rich as 10.5:1) with a healthy margin of safety against knock. We're also able to implement dynamic conditional timing retard to guard against knock during sudden changes of engine load (where knock is most common). By any standard, the tune is safe and stable. Boost pressures are also conservative, 10.5psi peak and falling off to 9psi at redline. The thing that is hard for many to accept is that factory tunes are not designed for max. power. They are designed to achieve the power/economy/emissions goals specified by marketing/market needs. Not every user has the same exact mixture of criteria. And that's were tuners come in. And that is also when smiles get really wide and burn-out marks get really long.

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      11-26-2006, 08:55 PM   #34
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Thanks but you better think twice. Apparently, according to a friend of Jim Conforti's and "several sources", we have blown up a bunch of them...

http://my.is/forums/showthread.php?t=312270
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Thanks but you better think twice. Apparently, according to a friend of Jim Conforti's and "several sources", we have blown up a bunch of them...

http://my.is/forums/showthread.php?t=312270
(post #5)

-shiv
I would like to see his "several sources"... all I have to say is, keep blowing them up shiv!!!!
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      11-26-2006, 10:41 PM   #36
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Thanks but you better think twice. Apparently, according to a friend of Jim Conforti's and "several sources", we have blown up a bunch of them...

http://my.is/forums/showthread.php?t=312270
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-shiv
If they're so concerned with the ugly exhaust on the 335i maybe they should get a faster car so they don't have to look at it?
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      11-26-2006, 10:45 PM   #37
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Anybody have pics/link to Shiv Tuning 335i exhaust ? specs?

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      11-26-2006, 11:12 PM   #38
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Shiv, I got your back on this. I just posted this just to see how they'll respond....

"How many 335i engines did Vishnu blow up???

Can you name your sources please because I can not find anyone else making this statement.

Thanks"


Anyways, my 335i sedan AT w/sport package just reached 1K miles and the Stage 0 kit is on my Xmas shopping list... Please let me know how to go about getting it. I'm in OC so let me know if you're going to be around the SoCal area.

Thanks

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      11-26-2006, 11:28 PM   #39
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Men like to mod things. Who do you think invented breast implants?
I like this phrase so much, I just had to add it to my sig
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hey stop blowing stuff up dude!

Only thing blowning up is Shiv's cell phone (all the ladies!). Anyway, I live in Utah and saw the 1st two 335s in state (only one dealer) and neither of them were blue. The 1st one sold off showroom floor a few days after arriving. So unless dude drove his BLUE 335 off another states showroom floor right after it arrived, or got a paint job, his info is incorrect.
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BMW of Murray Utah. Definitely not the 1st 335 in Utah. at best 3rd or
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I like this phrase so much, I just had to add it to my sig
Or just add the mods to the sig in the standard format:

'79 blonde/blue. 5'6" 120 36C (32B stock)...
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