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      07-15-2009, 07:32 PM   #23
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the amp will likely come uncoded -- no vin or car identification related to it -- which require a test plan >> unit software #s >> software numbers of each of the existing units >> and update will be indicated by the system.

since the cars are "networked" together its highly unlikely the individual component can be coded seperatly -- like to old days -- coding a instrument cluster didnt require programming (or coding any other units). but now all the software components "talk" to each other on the network and if one is not recognized -- guess what -- it is not recognized -- my i-pod adaptor, satellite radio, and alarm all required a full cycle of software updates.

if you are familiar with unix type systems some have dependency requirements, this is a sort of unix system (the early DIS testers ran on SCO UNIX) so there are dependency requirement on the cars also .. ever wonder why? have computer at home that has an application that misbehaves ? crashes, start slow, wont print? well thats why the software is packaged into versions, having tested the specific compatibilities of each package installed. so good chance youll wind up with (if their jetstream is working and ISIS is updated) 2.34.0 or otherwise known as E89x-09-06-510
but again, coding does not automatically = programming. in this case it will probably be necessary because the unit will likely come with a higher "i-stufe" than the other components in the car, and so programming will be required, but that is by virtue of the software level, not coding. you can certainly code a module without programming, i've done it numerous times. regardless, they probably would update the software anyway, since they are already working with ista and just for good measure.
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i got updated for pre-29.2 to 33.3 last week and it sucks. only good thing is the exhaust a tad louder. i hate the lag now
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I decided to let them program the car (although I'm not sure i ever had a choice with this part replacement). I emailed them to see what they programmed it with and this is what the response was:

"34.1 but didnít affect DME"

anyone want to pick that apart for me? "didn't affect DME", how does updating the software not affect the DME
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I decided to let them program the car (although I'm not sure i ever had a choice with this part replacement). I emailed them to see what they programmed it with and this is what the response was:

"34.1 but didnít affect DME"

anyone want to pick that apart for me? "didn't affect DME", how does updating the software not affect the DME
im guessing because he knows u know the car and doesnt want you to freak out on him for it. so i think ur right, it does affect the dme.
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I decided to let them program the car (although I'm not sure i ever had a choice with this part replacement). I emailed them to see what they programmed it with and this is what the response was:

"34.1 but didnít affect DME"

anyone want to pick that apart for me? "didn't affect DME", how does updating the software not affect the DME
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I did mention lag issues people have had with certain software revisions in one of my many emails (the guy probably hates me by now hah).. although I'm not concerned since procede has lag-fix.. but perhaps that is what he's referring to: no lag issues with 34.1?
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I should be getting the car back today so i'll write up a review of pre-29.2 vs 34.1
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correct me if im wrong

once the car is hooked up -- the test plan will indentify the new component(s) and upgrade any other that is deemed "necessary"

the new version of software will contain all the downstream changes -- this should incorporate all the "fixes" (patches) that were applied in the previous versions. this shouldnt be a "real" bad thing, as anything from 32.1 and up is pretty responsive.

i have 32.1 and its pretty nice and i did have a chance to drive the '07 model (prior to its release in late '06) and yes the throttle response is different.. but it is a lot "smoother....

but from my understanding when the Integration level is updated all applicable software is brought to the current level also

that why i hesitate when thinking of taking the car in for issues -- it runs good as it is..
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yeah i've had no issues at all in all my 30k modded and hard driven miles... then i have to go to BMW to get an amp replaced because water is dripping on it...
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yeah i've had no issues at all in all my 30k modded and hard driven miles... then i have to go to BMW to get an amp replaced because water is dripping on it...

hope it all works out ..

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any updates on the new software update...?
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haven't picked up my car yet. i'm going to get it in an hour or so.
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correct me if im wrong

once the car is hooked up -- the test plan will indentify the new component(s) and upgrade any other that is deemed "necessary"

the new version of software will contain all the downstream changes -- this should incorporate all the "fixes" (patches) that were applied in the previous versions. this shouldnt be a "real" bad thing, as anything from 32.1 and up is pretty responsive.

i have 32.1 and its pretty nice and i did have a chance to drive the '07 model (prior to its release in late '06) and yes the throttle response is different.. but it is a lot "smoother....

but from my understanding when the Integration level is updated all applicable software is brought to the current level also

that why i hesitate when thinking of taking the car in for issues -- it runs good as it is..
you are correct about all modules being upgraded together. however, DIS does not do this, it was originally done by progman, and is now done by the new ISTA/P system.
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On all my services I always tell them not to do software updates without speakign to me first, and it always says it on my service sheet:

"NO software updates without prior approval from service adviser and customer."

Will await a review from you once you get your car.
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you are correct about all modules being upgraded together. however, DIS does not do this, it was originally done by progman, and is now done by the new ISTA/P system.
for sure ...

my quote "(the early DIS testers ran on SCO UNIX)"

i was referring to the operating system used earlier diagnostic platform.
progman is the installed application --

i believe the ISIS system - along with ISTA/P, and ICOMS that are in current use are Windows based...
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i made a new thread with a quick review of 34.1
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