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      11-11-2009, 03:28 PM   #23
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How can you expect everyone to gain your perspective? Obviously you have a personal connection to an "intellectually disabled" person, but most don't, and retard jokes aren't going to stop being funny to some. I'm sure some blonds don't like blond jokes, I'm sure Monica Lewinski didn't like the Monica jokes, and I'm sure some black/white/jew/asian/white/hispanic people don't like racist jokes, etc. But the world doesn't revolve around you, and you are in for a lifetime of needless suffering if you think it will.
It's about insensitivity bro.

Does anyone remember the skit on In Living Color called HANDYMAN!? I thought that was funny as hell when I was a kid, but now I can't believe it was on television.

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Sorry for threadjack. Had to.
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      11-11-2009, 03:34 PM   #24
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Cause some people doesn't want to be branded as "bimmer"...

I remember Jeremy Clarkson said something about the V70R is a "cool" car....

That V70R is a good car...and you can pretend not to be a "car geek"....
You don't have to buy a bimmer to get a sports car. And a heavy FWD car is far from sporting. I'd rather have a mazdaspeed anything over a wanna-be volvo sports car.
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Looks alright. I was a fan of the last bodystyle so we'll see how much this grows on me. I think Volvo makes a quality product, despite what these teenage BMW fanboys are saying.
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How can you expect everyone to gain your perspective? Obviously you have a personal connection to an "intellectually disabled" person, but most don't, and retard jokes aren't going to stop being funny to some. I'm sure some blonds don't like blond jokes, I'm sure Monica Lewinski didn't like the Monica jokes, and I'm sure some black/white/jew/asian/white/hispanic people don't like racist jokes, etc. But the world doesn't revolve around you, and you are in for a lifetime of needless suffering if you think it will.
I don't expect it. But I do expect people not to behave like *ssholes. Blonds/Jews/Blacks. etc. of normal intellect can defend/advocate for themselves--those with severe intellectual disabilities cannot. My world does not revolve around me -- it revolves around my son, and I will ALWAYS be his advocate. So you can kiss my *ss.
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      11-11-2009, 09:54 PM   #27
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I don't expect it. But I do expect people not to behave like *ssholes. Blonds/Jews/Blacks. etc. of normal intellect can defend/advocate for themselves--those with severe intellectual disabilities cannot. My world does not revolve around me -- it revolves around my son, and I will ALWAYS be his advocate. So you can kiss my *ss.
I knew you'd take it personally! Good job.
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No offense to BMW lovers, but it looks like it has the same shape as the spied F30.
not possible. all F30 shots are full body camouflage. the best you can see of it is proportions

this is a weird car
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I'll never understand the immaturity of some people on this board. Hopefully, some of the children here who find comments like this to be amusing will gain some perspective and understanding through personal experiences with people, like my son, who have intellectual disabilities. There is no humor in such 'jokes'.

Tha being said, the car is ugly.
I feel you man and understand where you are coming from. I personally hate the word retard and every post that uses it should be deleted by the Mods. Us with disabled people in their family do have a different perspective on such matters but thank god we are in the minority because it's not only heart breaking to watch but bloody hard work too and in your case very expensive as well.

I know we will never change the world but with the few people that our family members come into contact with they are least will have a different perspective on disability as well and not view them as leapers that you avoid at all costs.
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looks fugly
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Leave these stupid personal arguments to PMs. We've seen the disabled argument a million times on this forum.

Anyways, this car completely lacks any sort of athletic proportions. Besides the butch front and the swoopy roofline, it hardly looks like it's a sport sedan. And who said this resembles the just-spied F30? Really, even at this point you can tell they'll be nothing alike based on proportions alone.
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I can't get over how poorly executed these proportions are. The front overhang is...well it's fucking enormous. The beltline is far from dynamic or speedy, and it's not even necessarily elegant. The sides look like slabs, the DLO is too small, and the fenders are nonexistant.

Sorry, again, this is hardly a sport sedan.
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Leave these stupid personal arguments to PMs. We've seen the disabled argument a million times on this forum.
I appreciate that, but it is an ongoing problem on this forum where such comments/jokes are dropped so cavalierly without any thought for fellow members who live with such difficulties.
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this car is not attractive at all. and for you guys that got offended with the "R" word i will apologize on behalf of all the people of this forum.
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That s60 is not a threat to my 335. Not in any possible way, shape, or form.

This still isnt a competitor even with a jbv (juicebox volvo), coilovers, volvo performance accessories........enough sarcasm, lol. Its a volvo.
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Not a direct competitor, I dont think volvo has the chasis and driving dynamics down yet but it may be nipping on bmw's tail. Audi has certainly caught up now and they have a prettier package. Not everyone care for performance and when they do some may prefer real through bred like a Cayman or Elise.

BMW is still sitting high but in competitive environment one can't assume that will continue
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that volvo is ugly!
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Well see.

I loved my S60R, good car. Ran rings around any non-M 3er at the time, and could keep right up with an S4. Also it was priced like a 325, only much better equiped. Best interior out of any car I've owned, best stereo, and by FAR the best seats. Really a very good car. Not quite as quick as a 335i, but also a better handling and brakes with electronic chassis control (push button) like what just went into the M3.

Very under rated car, and if I find myself in need of an AWD DD with $20k to throw around, it'd be a no brainer for me.
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Well see.

I loved my S60R, good car. Ran rings around any non-M 3er at the time, and could keep right up with an S4. Also it was priced like a 325, only much better equiped. Best interior out of any car I've owned, best stereo, and by FAR the best seats. Really a very good car. Not quite as quick as a 335i, but also a better handling and brakes with electronic chassis control (push button) like what just went into the M3.

Very under rated car, and if I find myself in need of an AWD DD with $20k to throw around, it'd be a no brainer for me.
And it comes with Brembo Brakes!!!
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That is a gigantic front overhang. And a short rump. Opposite of what is optimum IMO. Looks more like a Citroen profile than anything sporty.
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I like it, very perky. Obviously, not done by Callum but certainly better than the credit it's being given here.
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Front wheels are way too far back from the front of the car for my liking.
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never has been competition and never will be imo. The new S4 on the other hand...
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