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11-16-2009, 09:50 PM | #45 |
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Record Breaking 438whp and 450lbs of Torque. ER Comp FMIC, Catless Downpipe, Exhaust, Intake and JB3 on 100 Octane. 384 whp and 425lbs of Torque. ER Comp FMIC, Catless Downpipes, Exhaust, Intake and JB3 on 93 Pump Gas. 365whp and 411lbs of Torque with 91 Pump Gas. Features: Large 20"x5.5"x6" intercooler core Cast end tanks for improved durability and flow Available in polished or anodized black finish Includes all aluminum intercooler piping, which replaces all OEM rubber hoses with hard piping for improved throttle response and faster turbo spool up Piping features beaded ends, silicone "hump" hoses, and T-bolt clamps Maintains all factory components All hardware needed to install is included Limited lifetime warranty 15 - 25 horsepower gains at the wheels Last edited by solid77; 12-02-2009 at 04:44 PM.. |
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11-17-2009, 06:00 PM | #48 |
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ETS BMW 135i/335i Intercooler Kit
The ETS intercooler Kit Features
Note how the inlet and outlets are staggered. The inlet is at the top of the cooler and the outlet is at the bottom. This design will force the air to flow through the whole cooler, not just straight across as if both inlet and outlets were on the top. Also note the radiator shroud tabs at the bottom of the cooler. Side by side shot of the whole system illustrates why we designed a whole new kit and not just a bolt on intercooler. Below are the main reasons we feel replacement of the stock piping is in order:
Analysis of Stock Intercooler, Base Test on a stage 1 vehicle at 12psi shows good power, but a flat spot in the mid range power between 5000-5700rpm is likely due to the rapidly rising outlet temps of the inefficient stock intercooler. Based upon the 100deg mid pull temps, and the 125deg end of pull temp, there is definitely room for improvement over the stock intercooler. Analysis of ETS Intercooler, Upon installation of the ETS Intercooler Kit, the car shows a 21.05hp increase and makes 361 peak hp. Outlet temps are only 59deg at mid pull and the temps only rise to 66deg at the end of the run. These temps are signifigantly lower than stock, and it is no surprise that there is a substancial power increase with the intercooler kit installed. Aside from the midrange, we also noticed a slight Increase in top end power as well. This can be attributed in part to the ETS Replacement Charge Pipe which replaces the plastic stock pipe with the 2 restrictve dimples that protrude into the flow area of the pipe. Through Gears Test As our test car was an automatic, it was a perfect candidate for a pull through all 4 gears.This is the test that really shows the difference in the ETS Kit vs. the stock intercooler as this test will put a lot of heat into the system in 1st and 2nd gears, which should show the stock units shortcomings as it gets to the high load areas of 3rd and 4th gear. In this test we see both intercoolers start out at 50deg, by the top of second gear the ETS intercooler is only up to 57deg, while the stock unit is already at 78deg. By the time we get to the top of third gear, the stock cooler has heat soaked, and the charge temps are up to 124, which is way too hot to safely control knock. While the stock intercooler is struggling in 3rd gear, the ETS intercooler is handling the temps with ease, yielding a 69deg charge air temperature. As the car shifts into 4th, the stock intercooler continues to struggle to control the charge air temps, and fails miserably, ending up at 158deg, and even causing timing to be pulled enough that we see two noticeable dips in power. The ETS intercooler on the other hand, is handling the load of 4th gear without issue, and is returning good power throughout the rest of the pull. Charge temps rise to only 91deg, and we see a max power difference of 25hp. This is a considerable improvement over the stock unit, and is a difference you can really feel in the drivers seat. 30sec. After Pull Analasys, The above graph illustrates the how well the ETS intercooler deals with heat even after the pull. As illustrated, the ETS intercooler just never gets hot, and even 30seconds after a run through all the gears, the ETS unit is only 69deg while the stock cooler is still over 110deg. These low after pull temps are important because it means that with the ETS intercooler System you ready to make another pull, while the stock cooler is best left to cool down for at least a few minutes. Stage 1 Race Gas After all of the design testing was completed, we ran the car on unleaded MS109 racegas and turned up the torque table settings. The outcome was 393whp and 414tq. Not bad for a stage 1 automatic car, with just intake, intercooler, and a tune Pressure Drop - Average 1psi Inlet/Outlet Pressure From 1st to 4th Gear 4th Gear Zoom In of Inlet/Outlet Pressure 1.0 psi Average Pressure Drop in 4th Gear Intercooler Outlet Coupler Comparison Any of the intercoolers utilizing a stock outlet coupler will start off with a 2.0" outlet. This is one of the most restrictive points of the stock intercooler kit. We include a 2.75" to 2.50" 60 degree coupler that has a smooth funnel design. Anodized Intercooler Option Last edited by ETS Michael; 11-17-2009 at 06:20 PM.. |
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12-04-2009, 01:30 PM | #49 |
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So based of the info Helix seems to be the most sold option.
So if that is the case what connecting pipes are people using to replace the stock ones? I know there was some issues of pipe blowing off? |
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12-04-2009, 01:51 PM | #51 |
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I wish it was easier to see a quantitative comparison chart, although I'm not well-versed enough yet to know what exactly would count as a vital statistic, and what stats attributes be more heavily weighted.
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12-04-2009, 03:16 PM | #52 |
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12-16-2009, 05:32 PM | #55 | |
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good info - but no pressure drop data.
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12-16-2009, 08:42 PM | #57 |
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ETS looks like a winner to me considering it's price, performance, quality and install without cutting anything. I'm def. getting one soon.
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12-17-2009, 01:12 AM | #58 |
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i thought you only wanted a tune yes the ETS looks nice ! I have the Helix and very happy with it.
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12-17-2009, 04:50 AM | #59 |
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From Dinan's website it has a 93% increase in total volume, whatever that means. It also reduces pressure drop by 0.7 psi. BTW, if anyone wants it on their E90 with M Aero Kit it does fit, I have it on ours. I should go get a pic but I'm just too lazy right now at about 3 in the morning...
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12-17-2009, 05:49 AM | #60 |
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doenst DINAN use the RPI intercooler and rebrands it?
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12-17-2009, 07:28 AM | #62 |
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I think I might let just this one slide purely out of consistency reasons.
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12-18-2009, 04:37 PM | #63 |
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I added a snipped to the first post regarding understanding possible downfalls to reading strictly dyno data from intercooler upgrades. Point in case: Do some datalogging while doing real runs.
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01-21-2010, 09:00 PM | #64 | |
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Bump for HPF's new IC:
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01-21-2010, 09:28 PM | #65 |
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Great thread, let's keep it going. Maybe someone could compile a table with data on volume, frontal area, construction, AIT reduction, and pressure drop.
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01-21-2010, 11:42 PM | #66 | |
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In my case I've had to remove my intercooler a couple of times due to warranty issues, so the RPI worked like a charm. In day to day and track driving I've noticed a great improvement over stock, but cannot compare to any other aftermarket FMIC. It's certainly beefier then the stock FMIC size/weight wise. |
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