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      12-10-2009, 01:19 AM   #1
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Ward's announces 10 Best Engines for 2010(BMW 335d wins!)

I was right! The S4's engine took away #1 from the 335i!

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Engines employing new technologies to deliver both fuel economy and performance dominate North America's only engine award program

SOUTHFIELD, Mich., Dec. 9 /PRNewswire/ -- Ward's 10 Best Engines, North America's only award program honoring engine excellence, have been announced for 2010. The list symbolizes the auto industry's swift movement toward downsized engines to attract consumers who now are making fuel efficiency a top priority.

Highlights: Two turbodiesels (one each from BMW AG and Volkswagen AG) and two hybrid-electric vehicles (from Ford Motor Co. and Toyota Motor Corp.) made this year's list by achieving fuel economy of nearly 40 mpg (5.8 L/100 km) in the VW Jetta SportWagen TDI and up to 55 mpg (4.2 L/100 km) in the Toyota Prius in real-world driving.

This year's winners and the applications tested:

* 2.0L TFSI Turbocharged DOHC I-4 (Audi A4)
* 3.0L TFSI Supercharged DOHC V-6 (Audi S4)
* 3.0L DOHC I-6 Turbodiesel (BMW 335d)
* 2.5L DOHC I-4 Hybrid (Ford Fusion Hybrid)
* 3.5L EcoBoost Turbocharged DOHC V-6 (Ford Taurus SHO)
* 2.4L Ecotec DOHC I-4 (Chevrolet Equinox)
* 4.6L Tau DOHC V-8 (Hyundai Genesis)
* 2.5L Turbocharged DOHC H-4 (Subaru Legacy 2.5GT)
* 1.8L DOHC I-4 Hybrid (Toyota Prius)
* 2.0L SOHC I-4 Turbodiesel (Volkswagen Jetta SportWagen TDI)

"This year's list embodies how the industry is responding to demands for higher fuel economy and lower emissions without shortchanging performance," Ward's AutoWorld Editor-in-Chief Drew Winter said. "Auto makers are using innovative designs and advanced technology to boost horsepower and torque while downsizing engines and increasing efficiency."

To be eligible for the competition, each engine must be available in a regular-production U.S.-specification model on sale no later than first-quarter 2010, in a vehicle priced no more than $54,000, a price cap indexed to the average cost of a new vehicle.

Throughout October and November, six editors of Ward's Automotive Group tested 34 vehicles from 13 auto makers in their normal driving cycles in metro Detroit. They scored each engine based on horsepower, torque, refinement, technical relevance and comparative data. Each engine was evaluated because it was all-new, offered significant technology upgrades or was a returning winner from last year.

The awards will be presented at a Jan. 13 ceremony in Detroit during the North American International Auto Show. A full story on the Ward's 10 Best Engines is now available on Wardsauto.com.

Ward's Automotive Group is a world-leading provider of auto industry news, data and analysis, having served the industry's information needs for nearly 80 years. Ward's AutoWorld is a monthly magazine serving more than 68,000 automotive professionals. The twice-monthly newsletter Ward's Engine & Vehicle Technology Update provides analysis of engineering advancements and technical issues. WardsAuto.com is an online subscription service delivering virtually all the industry news, data and analysis compiled by Ward's Automotive Group, the world's leader in automotive industry information. A Southfield, MI - based division of Penton Media, Inc., Ward's Automotive Group also publishes the weekly industry newsletter Ward's Automotive Reports, the monthly magazine Ward's Dealer Business, and offers a wealth of other automotive information services including reference annuals, online databases, and customized data reports.
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I was right! The S4's engine took away #1 from the 335i!
no surprise really is it?
the S4 engine just came out recently....the 335i is 3 yrs old!...and when BMW's next inline 6 comes out.....will be tops again...Audi is always playing catch up.....BMW leads.....Audi follows!
that may sound a little Fan boyish...but hey....its reality!
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suprised on not seeing nissans vq in there...its always in there
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I'm glad to see Audi's 3.0 TFSI taking tops over the N54. It's the better engine. I'm tired of my fucking HPFP failing.
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I'm glad to see Audi's 3.0 TFSI taking tops over the N54. It's the better engine. I'm tired of my fucking HPFP failing.
thats still happening?

i thought they would of fixed that shit by now
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thats still happening?

i thought they would of fixed that shit by now
Nope. Still happening, and people are getting fed up, and going and picking up Audi S4's. Those that had the 335i that is.
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I'm glad to see Audi's 3.0 TFSI taking tops over the N54. It's the better engine. I'm tired of my fucking HPFP failing.
It's a great engine. Makes me want an Audi, but that dang ///M3!!!!


I have yet to go test drive it.
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Nope. Still happening, and people are getting fed up, and going and picking up Audi S4's. Those that had the 335i that is.
but yes this is the reason i ditched my 335

well i stayed in brand, the m coupe has been flawless. Maybe you need need to stay NA to get some quality with bmw.
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thats still happening?

i thought they would of fixed that shit by now
My car's in the shop. This is my third replacement, so that makes this HPFP #4. The dealership is saying that there has to be something else that's wrong, so they're running a diagnostics test. The SA suspects an ignition coil or something. Regardless, fuckin shit sucks.
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Nope. Still happening, and people are getting fed up, and going and picking up Audi S4's. Those that had the 335i that is.
I would gladly hop in an S4 if I had the cash. Unfortunately that won't be happening. I'll have to downgrade to something else...considering a Mustang GT or a 370Z.
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but yes this is the reason i ditched my 335

well i stayed in brand, the m coupe has been flawless. Maybe you need need to stay NA to get some quality with bmw.
I just think they went about the N54 improperly. The N55 should fix everything; fewer parts, better throttle response and an even larger torque plateau.
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My car's in the shop. This is my third replacement, so that makes this HPFP #4. The dealership is saying that there has to be something else that's wrong, so they're running a diagnostics test. The SA suspects an ignition coil or something. Regardless, fuckin shit sucks.

I would gladly hop in an S4 if I had the cash. Unfortunately that won't be happening. I'll have to downgrade to something else...considering a Mustang GT or a 370Z.

I just think they went about the N54 improperly. The N55 should fix everything; fewer parts, better throttle response and an even larger torque plateau.
or you could lemon the thing.
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or you could lemon the thing.
Not with 52k miles.
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Not with 52k miles.
when did the problem start?
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when did the problem start?
I think the first one went out around 22k.
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I was right! The S4's engine took away #1 from the 335i!
hmmmmm.....the list on Ward's site is slightly different from what the OP posted....here is the ACTUAL list:

The Wardís 10 Best Engines for 2009 (engine and tested vehicle):

* Audi AG: 2.0L TFSI turbocharged DOHC I-4 (A4 Avant)
* BMW AG: 3.0L turbocharged DOHC I-6 (135i Coupe)
* BMW AG: 3.0L DOHC I-6 Turbodiesel (335d)

* Chrysler LLC: 5.7L Hemi OHV V-8 (Dodge Ram/Challenger R/T)
* Ford Motor Co.: 2.5L DOHC I-4 HEV (Escape Hybrid)
* General Motors Corp.: 3.6L DOHC V-6 (Cadillac CTS)
* Honda Motor Co. Ltd.: 3.5L SOHC V-6 (Accord Coupe)
* Hyundai Motor Co. Ltd.: 4.6L DOHC V-8 (Genesis)
* Toyota Motor Corp.: 3.5L DOHC V-6 (Lexus IS 350)
* Volkswagen AG: 2.0L SOHC I-4 Turbodiesel (Jetta TDI)

....."BMW AGís new 3.0L inline 6-cyl. turbodiesel scores a slot on the list in its first year available in the U.S. Joined by the auto makerís twin-turbocharged and direct-injected gasoline I-6 engine, which returns for the third year, the diesel employs a sequential twin-turbocharger system that provides the 335d sedan with impressive fuel economy and a stunning 425 lb.-ft. (576 Nm) of torque."
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http://wardsauto.com/reports/2009/te...s_2009_081205/
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please read before you post. HotIce's post is for "Ward's announces 10 Best Engines for 2010" ( Dec 9th 2009 ), why did you bring up the 2009 (Dec 5, 2008 version)? we all know that you are very very defensive in other threads. you already highlighted in blue as 2009. why did you question about the listing for 2010? http://www.autoblog.com/2009/12/09/w...ines-for-2010/ FYI.

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hmmmmm.....the list on Ward's site is slightly different from what the OP posted....here is the ACTUAL list:

The Ward’s 10 Best Engines for 2009 (engine and tested vehicle):

* Audi AG: 2.0L TFSI turbocharged DOHC I-4 (A4 Avant)
* BMW AG: 3.0L turbocharged DOHC I-6 (135i Coupe)
* BMW AG: 3.0L DOHC I-6 Turbodiesel (335d)

* Chrysler LLC: 5.7L Hemi OHV V-8 (Dodge Ram/Challenger R/T)
* Ford Motor Co.: 2.5L DOHC I-4 HEV (Escape Hybrid)
* General Motors Corp.: 3.6L DOHC V-6 (Cadillac CTS)
* Honda Motor Co. Ltd.: 3.5L SOHC V-6 (Accord Coupe)
* Hyundai Motor Co. Ltd.: 4.6L DOHC V-8 (Genesis)
* Toyota Motor Corp.: 3.5L DOHC V-6 (Lexus IS 350)
* Volkswagen AG: 2.0L SOHC I-4 Turbodiesel (Jetta TDI)

....."BMW AG’s new 3.0L inline 6-cyl. turbodiesel scores a slot on the list in its first year available in the U.S. Joined by the auto maker’s twin-turbocharged and direct-injected gasoline I-6 engine, which returns for the third year, the diesel employs a sequential twin-turbocharger system that provides the 335d sedan with impressive fuel economy and a stunning 425 lb.-ft. (576 Nm) of torque."
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http://wardsauto.com/reports/2009/te...s_2009_081205/
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