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DIY - E92 Oil Change
Published by pierre_wei
01-23-2007
DIY - E92 Oil Change

Its Only 1K....but i can't wait to get my first oil change..there are some pictures during Oil Change...everything worked out very well ,BUT I DIDN'T SEE ANY SILVER METAL WASHER ON DRAIN BOLT??...or it just didn't have it with it??
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By pierre_wei on 01-23-2007, 07:59 PM
Some more Pictures~~
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By Robert on 01-23-2007, 08:00 PM
Thanks for the write up.. Weird I have never done an oil change on the BMW before. Their oil filter looks way different
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By billmister on 01-24-2007, 01:00 PM
WOW... this helps out A whole lot bro. Thanks for the very good pictures. I'm planning on doing it myself now that you posted up pictures. Only question is this.

1-I will buy filter and oil from BMW but 1 does it matter what oil?.. I mean i know bmw high performance synthetic oil, but in the winter will you put 5w-30 and in the summer as well?

2-after your done, the odomitor (don't know how to spell) will still keep the count untill 15000 miles right?...

Because i plan on changing my oil at 7000 miles, and then i want my car to notify me at 15000miles.

3-How many of those bottles do you put into the car?... One 2 or 3?

Thank you, it seems pretty easy, lift the car, open the botter let the oil out. Close it back up. go to the engine and change the filter, then fill it up with oil, then start the car up and check if oil level is good!.. I think i have it pretty much down please correct me if anything.

THANKS FOR THE WRITE UP ON E92.... !!!
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By NaTuReB0Y on 01-24-2007, 01:02 PM
nice write-up.......

changing oil is as easy as a walk in the park.........
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By pierre_wei on 01-24-2007, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by billmister View Post

1-I will buy filter and oil from BMW but 1 does it matter what oil?.. I mean i know bmw high performance synthetic oil, but in the winter will you put 5w-30 and in the summer as well?
2-after your done, the odomitor (don't know how to spell) will still keep the count untill 15000 miles right?...
Because i plan on changing my oil at 7000 miles, and then i want my car to notify me at 15000miles.
3-How many of those bottles do you put into the car?... One 2 or 3?
Thank you, it seems pretty easy, lift the car, open the botter let the oil out. Close it back up. go to the engine and change the filter, then fill it up with oil, then start the car up and check if oil level is good!.. I think i have it pretty much down please correct me if anything.


THANKS FOR THE WRITE UP ON E92.... !!!
1--huh..i am not sure about this Oil question because i checked on mobil 1 they recommend 0W40 on BMW 335i Coupe, but many people in here said they got it from BMW so i just bought it from them!!

2--Yes,My odomitor shows 14000 for oil change service.

3--i put in 6.5 Quart...so six bottles and half.....

Good Luck and Enjoy!!!!
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By longtran on 01-24-2007, 07:30 PM
its odometer for future reference. 6.5 qtz??? wow thats alot of oil. ineed to do the e92 soon. thanks for the write up.
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By STE92VE on 01-25-2007, 07:24 AM
Do you also change those 2 O rings, the big one and the little one?
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By txusa03 on 01-25-2007, 08:17 AM
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Do you also change those 2 O rings, the big one and the little one?
100% should. When you buy the filter from BMW, it comes with the 2 o-rings and a washer for the drain bolt.

I buy oil from BMW and it is like $4.60 a quartz (give or take a few cents). If you go out to wal-mart and try to buy synthetic oil, price is almost the same so for me I rather get it from the dealer just to make sure since I plan to keep the car way after the free maintenance period.
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By AHY on 01-25-2007, 12:17 PM
Not sure if it's listed anywhere but what is the size of the drain bolt, and is it a recessed drain plug port? I'd like to buy a Fumoto Engine Oil drain valve.

http://www.fumotovalve.com/
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By basti313 on 01-25-2007, 03:48 PM
Nice done.
But for the next time: Better put some oil on the new rings. They might be damaged or won't function in certain cases if they are not oiled.
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By MacAttack on 01-25-2007, 03:54 PM
Well done. Thx for taking the time.
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By texasturner on 01-27-2007, 11:09 AM
Do the old o-rings come off easily or do you have to pry them off with screwdriver?
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By crqflier on 01-27-2007, 02:36 PM
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3--i put in 6.5 Quart...so six bottles and half.....

Good Luck and Enjoy!!!!
Nice write up with pics. I'm just about to do the same today. Went to the dealer yesterday to buy the oil and filter. A few comments.
1. Had to ask 5 different people in the "service" dept, but finally talked to a tech who told me a full change with filter on a 335i takes 6.5 litres or just about 7 quarts.
2. The filter is way smaller than on my e36 M3. Not sure why or that it matters at all - just unexpected.
3. Now the fun begins - finally past the break in period.
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By BoostedBMW on 01-28-2007, 12:28 PM
Nice write-up! I'll bookmark this for future use. That oil filter is unlike anything I have seen on the countless other cars that I have changed oil on. I also like the digital oil gauge. I guess you need to take the car to the dealer to have the service/maitenance lights taken off when the come on the dash?
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By basti313 on 01-31-2007, 09:26 AM
By the way: I wouldn't buy the oil at the BMW Dealer. They sell the simple 5W30 for 20Euro/litre in Germany. I think its also that expencive in the US.
I buy my oil via Ebay. The Mobil1 0W40 with BMW Longlife-01 is the best oil you can get for your BMW. And it costs 7.50Euro/litre via Ebay...
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By X72 on 02-02-2007, 10:29 PM
Hello bast313. Motor oil in the US is much cheaper than in Europe. Some of the BMW dealers here are charging about $5 or less per quart for the BMW/Castrol 5W-30 which is I believe equivalent to Castrol Softec in Europe. The Castrol synthetic that is readily available in stores here in the US for about $5 to $6 per quart is an ACEA A1 oil that is not longlife rated, thus it is worthwhile for us in the US to buy the oil from the BMW dealer.

In the big cities, Mobil 1 0W-40 is readily available for about $7 per quart.

Check out the used oil analysis forums at www.bobistheoilguy.com and you will see that the BMW-Castrol oil performs well as long as you keep the oil change interval reasonable (one year and 16k to 18k miles is not reasonable in my opinion). Of course, Mobil 1 0W-40 also performs very well.

addendum: A downside of being here is that we don't have the same variety of availabilty of autos, especially diesels like you own.
Last edited by X72; 02-02-2007 at 10:33 PM. Reason: addendum
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By AM335 on 02-19-2007, 05:54 PM
Has anyone tried a magnetic drain plug? Thanks.

Nice write up (pic up).
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By TTG on 02-20-2007, 01:48 PM
Very nice write up? How did you remove the oil filter? What size wrench & etc?
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By beh-em-veh-808 on 03-06-2007, 10:15 AM
Much thanks to Pierre Wei fork kindly sharing pix/documentation on the oil change for the '07 E9X series vehicle!!!!! It really help me with my own oil change that I completed this past Saturday.

I'd like to contribute my oil change experience on my 2007 E91 328iT in the form of "text / write-up." I think it goes well with the pix that Pierre Wei posted. Even though his pix are for an E92 and my write-up is for an E91, the differences in the process, parts, locations, instructions are nill.

Enjoy....

THIS IS MY EXPERIENCE...

1) Buy an OEM oil filter and engine oil from a BMW dealer's parts shop. This removes any doubts about getting the right part, compatibility, and warrenty. Filter P/N: 11-42-7-566-327-104. It is manufactured by MANN of Germany (P/N HU 816). The engine oil P/N is: 07-51-0-017-866-PG15. Viscosity is 5W30. Assael BMW in Monrovia, CA charged me $10.90 for the filter and $5.40 per quart of oil. The car requires ~ 6.5 Qts. Alternative BMW approved engine oils are: Mobil 1 0W40 and Castrol Syntec 0W30. Look for the BMW LL-01 text on back of oil containers. Next time, I will use Mobil 1 0W40.


2) Use lots of rags to clean/wipe any drips and to prevent drips. This is especially important when removing the oil filter cap and the oil filter itself.

3) Lifting the car and getting under it. I used a set of Rhino Ramps (12,000 capacity). I was able to drive up the ramp on my own w/o a second person to wach the wheels for me. I recommend a second person, "spotter". Some people had difficult time going up the ramp (due to slipping of the ramp along the ground, or the front air dam scraping against the ramp.) I did not experience this problem. I had a platform jack ready in case I had to jack up the car in order to slip the ramp under the front tire. In the end I did not have to do that, so I returned the jack to Pep Boys and saved $100.

4) The oil drain bold is hidden behind a "trap door." You can use a flat screw driver, coin, or fingernails to turn the plastic screw. The trap door will drop down. The door does get in the way/view of the drain bolt. This trap door is removeable so set it asside and replace after you're job is done. Use a 17 mm socket wrench to remove the drain bolt. It did not require much effort/force to removethe socket. Keep that in mind when re-installing the bolt, don't overtighten.

5) The oil drain outlet faces/shoots out horizontally (sideways) to the passenger side. It will shoot out quite far (almost 1 foot away), so use a large pan to catch all the oil. There will be some splashing, but nothing that a good rag won't be able to clean/wipe up.

6) CAUTION: Engine oil will be very hot!!!! I ran the car a few miles till it got to full operating temp. This is so that any/all bits and pieces in the oil will be kicked up and circulated so that it will drain out. And, with higher temperature, the oil will be less viscous so more will drain out. Less stuck on engine parts.

7) CAUTION: Oil filter cap will be very hot!!! I was able to unscrew by hand, using a thick rubber glove as insulation and for extra grip

8) The oil filter comes with 2 gaskets, 1 large one (black) for the oil filter cap threading and 1 tiny (green) one for the tip/shaft of the cap. It also comes with a copper colored "crush washer" for the oil drain plug. The orginal one will be chrome colored. NOTE after removing the drain plug and draining the oil, the drain plug washre may get stuck around the oil exit port on the oil pan. Just use your fingernail and pry it off. If you don't see it there, then it probably fell off already.

9) A good/solid plastic fork is a really usefull tool to use for pulling/removing the 2 gaskets from the engine oil cap (threading and shaft). Get a good plastic fork from a higher end takeout restaurant. It is solid enough to pry/pull the gasket out, but won't scratch any parts or threading. NOTE: The threading and shaft will be really greasy so using hand/fingers to remove gaskets will be tricky/difficult (but not impossible).

10) When installing the new gaskets onto the oil filter cap, remember to pre lubricate the gaskets with the new engine oil. Just dip your finger into the oil containers and rub on the gaskets. Also, it would be a good idea to rub a generous amout of new engine oil on the top and bottom parts of the new oil filter to preven scuffing when you re-install the filter and cap.

11) It is also a good idea to "pre-wick" the new filter with new engine oil. Just pour small amounts of new engine oil onto the new filter, directly on the elements. You will see the element soak up the oil and change color. NOTE: The oil filter itself is pretty small, about the size of an 8 oz yogurt cup.

12) Replacing the oil filter cap and oil drain plug. When re-tightenning the oil filter cap, I did not use a torque or strap wrench. I just used my hand (wearing rubber gloves). There is a green "dot" marker on the cap. This is a "location indicator. " Half of the green dot is on the cap, the other half on the oil filter housing. When you tighten the cap, just tighten it till it is really snug, just like when you were un-tightening it, and align the green dot. The cap is labled with a torque of "25 N M". However, I did not bother. Similar with the oil drain plug. Based on the force used ot remove the bolt, I used similar force to tighten. Just make sure to check and make sure there are no leaks after driving for a few miles. Same idea with the oil drain plug. REMEMBER install the copper crush washer on the drain plug!!!!!

13) After you re-install everything (drain plug, oil filter and gaskets, oil filter gap, and trap door, fill up with at least 6.5 QTS of new engine oil, close the engine oil cap, then start the engine. Let it idel warm up for a good 5 - 10 minutes. Since the new engine oil will be alot cooler than the old hot oil, you want to let the new oil warm up and circulate and lubricate the engine well before driving.

14) After warm up, drive the car around for 5 miles or so, then check the oil level to make sure it is full, but not over full. Then park the car on the driveway and look under the car to see if there are leaks.

This was a pretty easy job. It took me about 90 minutes because it was my first time on a BMW and first oil change since about 15 years ago . Next time, I'll shoot for 60 minutes, then, work my way down to 30 minutes.

I'm still used to the $12 DIY oil change on my civic and integra ($5 filter and 4 or 5 qts of 10-40's at $1.19 per qt.)

So, it was a bit of a shock to me is that the filter and engine oil combined to a cost of over $50!!!! I guess that's the price of owning a BMW.
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By ironic on 03-06-2007, 08:37 PM
^great write up
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By pierre_wei on 03-14-2007, 05:08 AM
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Originally Posted by beh-em-veh-808 View Post
Much thanks to Pierre Wei fork kindly sharing pix/documentation on the oil change for the '07 E9X series vehicle!!!!! It really help me with my own oil change that I completed this past Saturday.

I'd like to contribute my oil change experience on my 2007 E91 328iT in the form of "text / write-up." I think it goes well with the pix that Pierre Wei posted. Even though his pix are for an E92 and my write-up is for an E91, the differences in the process, parts, locations, instructions are nill.

Enjoy....

THIS IS MY EXPERIENCE...

1) Buy an OEM oil filter and engine oil from a BMW dealer's parts shop. This removes any doubts about getting the right part, compatibility, and warrenty. Filter P/N: 11-42-7-566-327-104. It is manufactured by MANN of Germany (P/N HU 816). The engine oil P/N is: 07-51-0-017-866-PG15. Viscosity is 5W30. Assael BMW in Monrovia, CA charged me $10.90 for the filter and $5.40 per quart of oil. The car requires ~ 6.5 Qts. Alternative BMW approved engine oils are: Mobil 1 0W40 and Castrol Syntec 0W30. Look for the BMW LL-01 text on back of oil containers. Next time, I will use Mobil 1 0W40.


2) Use lots of rags to clean/wipe any drips and to prevent drips. This is especially important when removing the oil filter cap and the oil filter itself.

3) Lifting the car and getting under it. I used a set of Rhino Ramps (12,000 capacity). I was able to drive up the ramp on my own w/o a second person to wach the wheels for me. I recommend a second person, "spotter". Some people had difficult time going up the ramp (due to slipping of the ramp along the ground, or the front air dam scraping against the ramp.) I did not experience this problem. I had a platform jack ready in case I had to jack up the car in order to slip the ramp under the front tire. In the end I did not have to do that, so I returned the jack to Pep Boys and saved $100.

4) The oil drain bold is hidden behind a "trap door." You can use a flat screw driver, coin, or fingernails to turn the plastic screw. The trap door will drop down. The door does get in the way/view of the drain bolt. This trap door is removeable so set it asside and replace after you're job is done. Use a 17 mm socket wrench to remove the drain bolt. It did not require much effort/force to removethe socket. Keep that in mind when re-installing the bolt, don't overtighten.

5) The oil drain outlet faces/shoots out horizontally (sideways) to the passenger side. It will shoot out quite far (almost 1 foot away), so use a large pan to catch all the oil. There will be some splashing, but nothing that a good rag won't be able to clean/wipe up.

6) CAUTION: Engine oil will be very hot!!!! I ran the car a few miles till it got to full operating temp. This is so that any/all bits and pieces in the oil will be kicked up and circulated so that it will drain out. And, with higher temperature, the oil will be less viscous so more will drain out. Less stuck on engine parts.

7) CAUTION: Oil filter cap will be very hot!!! I was able to unscrew by hand, using a thick rubber glove as insulation and for extra grip

8) The oil filter comes with 2 gaskets, 1 large one (black) for the oil filter cap threading and 1 tiny (green) one for the tip/shaft of the cap. It also comes with a copper colored "crush washer" for the oil drain plug. The orginal one will be chrome colored. NOTE after removing the drain plug and draining the oil, the drain plug washre may get stuck around the oil exit port on the oil pan. Just use your fingernail and pry it off. If you don't see it there, then it probably fell off already.

9) A good/solid plastic fork is a really usefull tool to use for pulling/removing the 2 gaskets from the engine oil cap (threading and shaft). Get a good plastic fork from a higher end takeout restaurant. It is solid enough to pry/pull the gasket out, but won't scratch any parts or threading. NOTE: The threading and shaft will be really greasy so using hand/fingers to remove gaskets will be tricky/difficult (but not impossible).

10) When installing the new gaskets onto the oil filter cap, remember to pre lubricate the gaskets with the new engine oil. Just dip your finger into the oil containers and rub on the gaskets. Also, it would be a good idea to rub a generous amout of new engine oil on the top and bottom parts of the new oil filter to preven scuffing when you re-install the filter and cap.

11) It is also a good idea to "pre-wick" the new filter with new engine oil. Just pour small amounts of new engine oil onto the new filter, directly on the elements. You will see the element soak up the oil and change color. NOTE: The oil filter itself is pretty small, about the size of an 8 oz yogurt cup.

12) Replacing the oil filter cap and oil drain plug. When re-tightenning the oil filter cap, I did not use a torque or strap wrench. I just used my hand (wearing rubber gloves). There is a green "dot" marker on the cap. This is a "location indicator. " Half of the green dot is on the cap, the other half on the oil filter housing. When you tighten the cap, just tighten it till it is really snug, just like when you were un-tightening it, and align the green dot. The cap is labled with a torque of "25 N M". However, I did not bother. Similar with the oil drain plug. Based on the force used ot remove the bolt, I used similar force to tighten. Just make sure to check and make sure there are no leaks after driving for a few miles. Same idea with the oil drain plug. REMEMBER install the copper crush washer on the drain plug!!!!!

13) After you re-install everything (drain plug, oil filter and gaskets, oil filter gap, and trap door, fill up with at least 6.5 QTS of new engine oil, close the engine oil cap, then start the engine. Let it idel warm up for a good 5 - 10 minutes. Since the new engine oil will be alot cooler than the old hot oil, you want to let the new oil warm up and circulate and lubricate the engine well before driving.

14) After warm up, drive the car around for 5 miles or so, then check the oil level to make sure it is full, but not over full. Then park the car on the driveway and look under the car to see if there are leaks.

This was a pretty easy job. It took me about 90 minutes because it was my first time on a BMW and first oil change since about 15 years ago . Next time, I'll shoot for 60 minutes, then, work my way down to 30 minutes.

I'm still used to the $12 DIY oil change on my civic and integra ($5 filter and 4 or 5 qts of 10-40's at $1.19 per qt.)

So, it was a bit of a shock to me is that the filter and engine oil combined to a cost of over $50!!!! I guess that's the price of owning a BMW.
:rocks: :rocks: THX for great write up
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