[zibawal]

Originally Posted by j330xi

Saddle is always with black carpet....

thanks man.

i stayed with saddle, oyster might be a bit too light.

[Weaselboy]

Originally Posted by technik330

Pricing question:

Would the wholesale pricing be the closest thing to invoice, or is the whole sale pricing the invice pricing?

Thanks,

Same thing.

[goldminer]

Originally Posted by pchan866

how would the overboost work? is there like a switch to turn it on or off when you want it?

I was looking at the pricing pdf for the 3 series and there are 2 premium packages and there is one with the moonroof and one without so im not sure. How much can the moonroof weigh anyways? i've always like it but seems like all the enthusiast want a delete option.

Most turbocharged engines have a thing called a wastegate after the turbo. The wastegate is a dump valve which bleeds off overpressure in the intake system. In modern cars it is usually under computer control. The overboost feature will likley also be under the control of the engine management system. It will allow the wastegate to open at the higher pressure for however many seconds it is set for, then revert to normal pressure. This feature will proably work only at or near full throttle. You need do nothing other than put your foot all the way down.

[goldminer]

Originally Posted by racerx

Hi Guys,

I'm in the process of ordering a 335is up here in Canada and the dealer forwarded me the BMW Product Bulletin for the 2011 3-Series and it goes over all the specifics of the 335is in detail. I've had this for like 5 days and I completely spaced on putting it up here; it would have cleared up a bunch of early speculation! My apologies.

I've attached it, take a look.

Intersting. On page 9, under active safety, this product bulletin says that the car has an "electronic limited slip differential"???

Can it be? Or does it just have that system which torque vectors by selectively applying the brake on one side of an open differential? If so this is pretty misleading. When it comes to putting power down coming out of a corner such a system is not an LSD.

[big_bro_t]

That rear bumper is SICK!!!

[335isGuy]

Originally Posted by goldminer

Intersting. On page 9, under active safety, this product bulletin says that the car has an "electronic limited slip differential"???

Can it be? Or does it just have that system which torque vectors by selectively applying the brake on one side of an open differential? If so this is pretty misleading. When it comes to putting power down coming out of a corner such a system is not an LSD.

It is mostly likely to have the same diff as the normal 335i. I highly doubt they put a LSD in this car.

[devo]

Originally Posted by goldminer

Most turbocharged engines have a thing called a wastegate after the turbo. The wastegate is a dump valve which bleeds off overpressure in the intake system. In modern cars it is usually under computer control. The overboost feature will likley also be under the control of the engine management system. It will allow the wastegate to open at the higher pressure for however many seconds it is set for, then revert to normal pressure. This feature will proably work only at or near full throttle. You need do nothing other than put your foot all the way down.

This is the what I would believe too. I know Porsche's turbo gets overboost when and only when the go pedal is floored and then for 10 seconds. Although overall hp does not rise with over-boost it is very likely that the mid-range hp (not only torque) rises as well. Over-boost for FI engines is a great way for manufacturers to get quick spurts of additional power without exceeding reliability.

[UdubBadger]

so what was the deal on the sunroof delete being standard or an option? (too lazy to look through 24 pages)

[STi2Three35i]

Wheels look way too small!

[stressdoc]

Few more thoughts after mulling this over for a few weeks now.

First, wow, Joe & team did an incredible job with this. I always liked the E46 ZHP, but the 335is is at a different level. The styling is sublime -- chrome tinged kidneys match ferric 313s and glacier trim. Ditto for gloss black bits. And the shape of the bumpers is perfect.

Regrets? Of course we are greedy and always want more. LSD. EDC option. Performance seats. And give us this package in the E90 & E91. Makes more sense than the E90 M3.

Kudos also to Bryan @ Kilo. The standout coverage of the 335is. Best writing and coolest photo (the AW).

[Malbolge]

i see they are using this "other" type of pedal overlays in the ZSP. Not sure I like them together with the Mfoot rest but on their own they are pretty tasteful and sturdy looking.

the 313 rims are just never beefy enough in my view, this car wants chunky looking rims...

[335isGuy]

Originally Posted by 320what

i see they are using this "other" type of pedal overlays in the ZSP. Not sure I like them together with the Mfoot rest but on their own they are pretty tasteful and sturdy looking.

the 313 rims are just never beefy enough in my view, this car wants chunky looking rims...

agreed. Thats why i ordered mine with the 19" 225M's

[Nescio]

Originally Posted by bryan@mwerks

It's actually about 30 pounds, according to BMW. But yeah, the extra couple inches make it worth it too.

Anyone know how I can order a 335is like this one without the moonroof?
My dealer in New York City says not possible.

[smckenna@talstar.com]

I just spotted a close-up photo of the M-DCT shifter for this new 2011 335is, and I noticed that it has a simple "Sport" button below the shifter. For the M3 DCT, there is a rocker button here with 5 different personality settings for the DCT (grandma mode with low RPM shift points all the way up to practically redlining before each shift). It doesn't look like this same functionality will be available for the 335is. Can anyone confirm this? I sure hope they didn't put this function inside some i-Drive menu!

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by smckenna@talstar.com

I just spotted a close-up photo of the M-DCT shifter for this new 2011 335is, and I noticed that it has a simple "Sport" button below the shifter. For the M3 DCT, there is a rocker button here with 5 different personality settings for the DCT (grandma mode with low RPM shift points all the way up to practically redlining before each shift). It doesn't look like this same functionality will be available for the 335is. Can anyone confirm this? I sure hope they didn't put this function inside some i-Drive menu!

The 335is won't get all the DCT settings the M3 has (called Drivelogic, BTW).

Trust me when I tell you this is actually a blessing in disguise. The added modes are nice in theory but add needless complexity to the interface and probably add even more needless complexity to the software. I almost never use anything other than S5 or S6 (the latter is the "hidden mode" activated when DSC is off which allows you to use launch control - so I am sure the 335i will have an equivalent). Besides that, I would only really ever use S1, and even then only if I were driving with a car full of senior citizens or a sleeping baby. S2 through S4 are really just fluff, and make the whole thing feel gimmicky. The same applies to the D (automatic) mode also (which, BTW, I never use). You really only need two and that's it.

[smckenna@talstar.com]

Originally Posted by mkoesel

The 335is won't get all the DCT settings the M3 has (called Drivelogic, BTW).

Trust me when I tell you this is actually a blessing in disguise. The added modes are nice in theory but add needless complexity to the interface and probably add even more needless complexity to the software. I almost never use anything other than S5 or S6 (the latter is the "hidden mode" activated when DSC is off which allows you to use launch control - so I am sure the 335i will have an equivalent). Besides that, I would only really ever use S1, and even then only if I were driving with a car full of senior citizens or a sleeping baby. S2 through S4 are really just fluff, and make the whole thing feel gimmicky. The same applies to the D (automatic) mode also (which, BTW, I never use). You really only need two and that's it.

Thanks for the great feedback. I'm actually happier with the simpler operation. One final question, however: What about the special 7 seconds of 270 ft-lbs of torque that is available (launch mode?) from the new 335i? Wouldn't that have to be "selected" somehow ahead of time through the DCT, or will it be automatically engaged when I stomp the accellerator to the floor?

[stressdoc]

The overboost is controlled in the software and is automatic. No doubt this will be an interesting target for manipulation by tuners.

[smckenna@talstar.com]

Originally Posted by stressdoc

The overboost is controlled in the software and is automatic. No doubt this will be an interesting target for manipulation by tuners.

OK, great! No NO2 button to have to worry about pressing to release the beast!
Thanks!

[smckenna@talstar.com]

If I order my 335is without the Navigation System, I'm not going to get the iDrive display screen at all, am I? I'm trying to set up the car with the Harmon Kardon Premium Audio System with the controls right there on the radio. I don't have anything against the most recent versions of the iDrive, I just prefer the BMW car stereos that have the full controls right on the radio, rather than fishing through the display screen inside the iDrive.

[stressdoc]

Originally Posted by smckenna@talstar.com

If I order my 335is without the Navigation System, I'm not going to get the iDrive display screen at all, am I? I'm trying to set up the car with the Harmon Kardon Premium Audio System with the controls right there on the radio. I don't have anything against the most recent versions of the iDrive, I just prefer the BMW car stereos that have the full controls right on the radio, rather than fishing through the display screen inside the iDrive.

Correct, no screen. Saves $ if you don't need OEM Navi. And unlike the M3, you don't have to order Navi to get the upgraded stereo.

[smckenna@talstar.com]

Originally Posted by stressdoc

Correct, no screen. Saves $ if you don't need OEM Navi. And unlike the M3, you don't have to order Navi to get the upgraded stereo.

AWESOME!! My dealer tells me that BMWNA informs him that their next "allocation" should include at least one 335is that I can order. Until then, I have to sit on my hands and wait.

[stressdoc]

Originally Posted by smckenna@talstar.com

AWESOME!! My dealer tells me that BMWNA informs him that their next "allocation" should include at least one 335is that I can order. Until then, I have to sit on my hands and wait.

F@#$ that. They will try and squeeze you for MSRP. Get a hold of one of the Eurodelivery specialists and go for it. Surely there is a SA at the Tallahassee dealer that can handle ED. Regardless, I don't think anyone is getting an E93 335is before mid-April in Munich, mid-May for an E92, with USA delivery in June.

Anyone have hard data on build dates yet?