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      10-26-2005, 07:10 PM   #1
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LEXUS IS 350 kicks the BMW 330i in the BALLS!

Performance Features
- 3.5-liter V6, four cam, four valves per cylinder, with continuously Variable Valve Timing with intelligence (VVT-i) on intake and exhaust valves
- 306 hp [1] @ 6,400, 277 lb-ft torque [1] @ 4,800 rpm
- Six-speed paddle-shift sequential automatic Electronically Controlled Transmission with intelligence (ECT-i)
- Independent, double-wishbone front suspension with coil springs, gas-pressurized shock absorbers and hollow stabilizer bar
- Independent, multi-link rear suspension with coil springs, inverted mono-tube gas-pressurized shock absorbers and stabilizer bar
- Rear-wheel drive
- Electronic vehicle-speed-sensing, progressive power-assisted rack-and-pinion steering
- Four-wheel power-assisted disc brakes [2]
- 17-in alloy wheels with 225/45VR17 all-season tires front, 245/45VR17 all-season tires rear [3]
- Estimated fuel consumption: 21/28 mpg city/highway [4]
Luxury Features
- Metallic-finish interior trim
- Leather-trimmed interior
- Leather-trimmed steering wheel and shift knob
- Steering-wheel-mounted cruise control, audio and display controls
- Tilt-and-telescopic steering column
- Lexus 13-speaker 194-watt [5] Premium Sound System with Automatic Sound Levelizer (ASL) and in-dash, single-feed, six-disc CD auto-changer
- MP3 audio input plug
- In-glass antenna with FM-diversity system
- 10-way driver's and front passenger's (including lumbar) power seats
- Height-adjustable headrests for all seats, including rear-center
- Dual-zone automatic climate control with interior air filter, smog sensor and automatic recirculation mode
- Power tilt-and-slide moonroof with rotary dial adjustment, one-touch open/close and sliding sunshade
- Power windows with one-touch auto open/close feature
- Remote-linked window and moonroof opening
- Retained accessory power for windows and moonroof
- Electrochromic (auto-dimming) inside rearview mirror
- Power door locks
- SmartAccess with push-button start
- Center console with sliding armrest, storage bin and accessory outlet
- Foldable front-door storage pockets
- HomeLink® universal transceiver to operate compatible garage, gate, home lighting and home security systems
- Illuminated entry system
- Electroluminescent instrumentation with startup sequence
- Interior electronic trunk-lid and fuel-filler-door releases
- Lexus Personalized Settings (LPS) [6] to personalize electronic functions
- Automatic on/off projector-beam headlamps with 30-second delay
- Dual chrome exhaust tips
- Trunk pass-through
- Carpeted floor mats
Safety and Security Features
- Driver's and front passenger's advanced airbag system (SRS) with front passenger's twin-chamber airbag [7]
- Front seat-mounted side airbags (SRS) [7]
- Front and rear side curtain airbags (SRS) [7]
- Driver's and front passenger's knee airbags (SRS) [7]
- Three-point seatbelts for all seating positions, pre-tensioners with force limiters for front and outboard rear seats
- Automatic Locking Retractor/Emergency Locking Retractor (ALR/ELR) seatbelts for all passenger seating positions. Emergency Locking Retractor (ELR) only for driver's seat
- Height-adjustable front shoulder belt anchors
- Child Restraint Seat (CRS) tether anchor brackets
- Four-wheel power-assisted disc brakes [2]
- Four-sensor, four-channel Anti-lock Braking System (ABS)
- Vehicle Dynamics Integrated Management (VDIM) [8]
- Traction Control (TRAC)
- Brake Assist [9]
- Electronic Brakeforce Distribution (EBD)
- Lexus four-sensor Tire Pressure Monitor System [10]
- Highly rigid body structure with front and rear crumple zones
- Side-impact door beams
- Reinforcements in pillars
- Impact-dissipating upper interior trim
- Collapsible steering column
- Daytime running lights
- Integrated foglamps
- Water-repellent front-door glass
- Variable intermittent windshield wipers with mist cycle
- Rear-window defogger with auto-off timer
- Power-adjustable outside mirrors with puddle lamps
- Vehicle theft-deterrent and engine immobilizer system
- Tool kit
- First aid kit
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      10-26-2005, 07:14 PM   #2
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Praise Jesus!!!!

I still like my Bimmer. I couldn't care less about bling bling Toyotas.
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      10-26-2005, 07:16 PM   #3
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My experience is that lexus always looks really good on paper and even better in TV-ads.. but thats about it. When you get behind the wheel of one you can't really compare it to the bimmer (from a drivers perspective that is)

I remeber the same hype around the old gen IS against the E46.. same types of threads about how BMW was crushed by the IS and the E46 sucked and it couldnt do anything against the superior IS..

lol well we know how that turned into a complete fallacy... marketing hype can go a long way, but real drivers will pick out the real car, its just a matter of time and I know where i'm putting my money
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      10-26-2005, 07:18 PM   #4
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Premium Package with Additional Options $2,204.00

Premium Package with Auburn bird's-eye maple interior trim, Perforated leather-trimmed interior, Heated and ventilated front seats.
Additional Options:
- 18-in Alloy Wheels with Summer Tires
- Preferred Accessory Package (includes Cargo net, Trunk mat and Wheel locks)

And the base price is still less than a 330i!!!
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      10-26-2005, 07:20 PM   #5
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Premium Package with Additional Options $2,204.00

Premium Package with Auburn bird's-eye maple interior trim, Perforated leather-trimmed interior, Heated and ventilated front seats.
Additional Options:
- 18-in Alloy Wheels with Summer Tires
- Preferred Accessory Package (includes Cargo net, Trunk mat and Wheel locks)

And the base price is still less than a 330i!!!
Then go buy one.
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      10-26-2005, 07:24 PM   #6
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the new IS definitely has more features for the money but it really depends on what you value more in a car. as far as performance/handling goes, i have yet to read a single review that rates the IS over the e90.
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      10-26-2005, 07:25 PM   #7
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I think that car is so boring. Great...A upgraded toyota with lots of horsies. I bet the car looks just as bland inside as it does outside. Like all lexus automobiles all I can say is "blah".....
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      10-26-2005, 07:25 PM   #8
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Duh!

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Then go buy one.

I already have an M5 goob.
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      10-26-2005, 07:34 PM   #9
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Hmm... not sure why you just "copy and paste" the list of all the features on the Lexus IS. Many of the features on the IS are also on the e90. What's the point of this??

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LEXUS IS 350 kicks the BMW 330i in the BALLS! ...

Sorry, I'm still unconvinced
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      10-26-2005, 07:38 PM   #11
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If you drive it, you will know that this car doesn't compete with the 330i.
Check out the equivalent website to e90post.com:

http://my.is/

On it's forums, they readily concede that this car isn't in the same class as the 330i (or the 325i, for that matter).

I'm probably going to get an IS 250 this weekend for my wife.
It's like a nice leather couch on wheels.
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I already have an M5 goob.
I don't know what a "goob" is but I think it may be a guy who drives an M5, copies Lexus product info, and pastes it onto an E90 site.
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Quote:
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If you drive it, you will know that this car doesn't compete with the 330i.
Check out the equivalent website to e90post.com:

http://my.is/

On it's forums, they readily concede that this car isn't in the same class as the 330i (or the 325i, for that matter).

I'm probably going to get an IS 250 this weekend for my wife.
It's like a nice leather couch on wheels.

hah nice quote, thats going into my sig
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Quote:
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Check out the equivalent website to e90post.com:

http://my.is/
You know, I thought I knew a lot about the Internet, but I'd still like to know how they got a ".is" domain
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      10-26-2005, 07:42 PM   #15
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Relativity my dear friend, relativity....

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Hmm... not sure why you just "copy and paste" the list of all the features on the Lexus IS. Many of the features on the IS are also on the e90. What's the point of this??

Most people on this forum know what the 330i has to offer, so why bother listing the BMW part; until now.

For $37,295.00 you get this from BMW... you get more stuff fom Lexus...
Performance and Efficiency
3.0-liter dual overhead cam (DOHC), 24-valve inline 255-horsepower 6-cylinder engine with composite magnesium/aluminum engine block, Valvetronic, and Double VANOS steplessly variable valve timing
3-stage air intake manifold
Electronic throttle control
6-speed manual transmission
Handling, ride and braking
Dynamic Stability Control (DSC), including Comfort Stop, Brake Fade Compensation, Start-off Assistant, Brake Drying, and Brake Stand-by features, with Dynamic Traction Control (DTC)
Extensive aluminum componentry, including front suspension components (forged-aluminum lower arms, steering knuckle); subframe; steering rack; and brake components (brake caliper, brake shield)
Double-pivot type front suspension with dual forged-aluminum lower arms
5-link rear suspension with cast-aluminum upper transverse arms
Front and rear anti-roll (stabilizer) bars
Twin-tube gas-pressure shock absorbers
4-wheel ventilated anti-lock disc brakes with Dynamic Brake Control (DBC)
Engine-speed-sensitive, variable-assist power steering
Exterior
17 x 8.0 Star Spoke (Styling 159) light-alloy wheels, 225/45R-17 run-flat1 all-season tires
Flat Tire Warning Indicator
Xenon Adaptive Headlights with auto-leveling
Halogen free-form front foglights
Heated dual power mirrors and heated windshield washer jets
Interior seating
8-way power front seats with 2-way manual headrests and driver memory with 2 pre-sets for exterior mirror and seat positions
Leatherette upholstery
3-spoke leather-wrapped multi-function steering wheel with audio and accessory phone3 controls
Front seatback storage nets
Burl Walnut Wood trim
Comfort and convenience
Engine Start/Stop button
Advanced Vehicle & Key Memory – includes climate-control temperature and air-distribution settings, exterior mirror and power seat settings,7 audio tone settings and radio presets with optional on-board navigation system, central-locking preferences, and lighting preferences
Automatic climate control – includes micro-filter, automatic air recirculation, left/right temperature control, temperature- and volume-controlled rear outlets, windshield misting sensor, maximum air conditioning, heat at rest, more powerful fan, and recall of individual user settings
2-way power glass moonroof with “one-touch” operation, sliding interior sunshade, and wind deflector
Front-seat center armrest with climate-controlled storage compartment
Front passenger cupholders (dashboard-integrated)
Rear-seat center armrest with cupholders
Tilt/telescopic steering wheel column
Power front and rear windows with “one-touch” up/down operation
Dynamic Cruise Control
BMW Ambiance Lighting front and rear
Courtesy lights – include fade in/fade out, actuation from remote, automatic switch-on when engine is turned off, separately controlled left/right front and rear reading lights, front footwell lighting, and illuminated vanity mirrors
Ground-illuminating lights in door handles
Locking glovebox
Electric interior trunk release
Rain-sensing windshield wipers and Automatic headlight control
Pre-wiring for BMW center installation of mobile phone, alarm system
Audio system
Anti-theft AM/FM stereo CD/MP35 player audio system with 10 speakers (including 2 subwoofers), Radio Data System (RDS), Auto-Store and 3-channel FM diversity antenna; displays MP3 song title and artist
Logic7 Surround Sound anti-theft AM/FM stereo CD/MP35 player audio system with 13 upgraded speakers (including 2 subwoofers), Digital Sound Processing (DSP), Radio Data System (RDS), Auto-Store and 3-channel FM diversity antenna; displays MP3 song title and artist
Auxiliary audio input for portable music players
Pre-wiring for BMW center installation of 6-disc CD/MP3 changer
Instrumentation and Controls
Service Interval Indicator with miles-to-service readout
Check Control vehicle monitor system with pictogram display, oil status display, and Condition Based Service indicator
On-board computer with Check Control – provides feedback on the vehicle’s operating status: oil level indicator, distance to next service appointment and oil change, front/rear brake pad and brake fluid status, state emissions inspection due date, and other detailed information like spark plug and micro-filter status. It also provides travel information such as travel range on remaining fuel, external temperature, and more.
Safety and Security
Anti-lock braking system (ABS)
Adaptive Brake Lights
MRS5 centralized safety control system
Front and rear Head Protection System (HPS)
Driver’s and passenger’s front airbag supplemental restraint system (SRS) with “smart” dual-threshold, dual-stage deployment and sensor to help prevent unnecessary passenger’s airbag deployment
Seat-mounted front side-impact airbags
Automatic safety belt pretensioners at front and rear outboard seating positions
Front passenger seat-occupation recognition with Passenger’s Airbag Off indicator
Interlocking door anchoring system to help protect against door intrusion in side impacts
Central locking system with center console switch (leaves gas filler door unlocked), double-lock feature and 2-step unlocking
Coded Driveaway Protection
Automatic-locking retractors (ALR) on all passenger safety belts for installation of child-restraint seat
LATCH attachments on child-restraint safety installation
Crash sensor that automatically turns on hazard lights and interior lights, and unlocks doors
Programmable daytime running lights
Fiber-optics-based MOST-BUS architecture for safety systems
BMW Maintenance Program
Full Maintenance Program covers all factory-recommended maintenance, as determined by the Service Interval Indicator for 4 years or 50,000 miles, whichever comes first. Full Maintenance Program includes items that need replacement due to normal wear and tear, provided wear and tear exceeds BMW specifications. This includes items such as brake pads, brake rotors and wiper blades that are not covered by the original New Vehicle Limited Warranty. Any adjustments required due to normal operating conditions are also included. For exclusions and limitations, refer to the Service and Warranty Information booklet that came with your new BMW, or see your authorized BMW center for details.
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An intelligent response.... thanks!

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the new IS definitely has more features for the money but it really depends on what you value more in a car. as far as performance/handling goes, i have yet to read a single review that rates the IS over the e90.
Yes, the BMW balls of luxury were kicked. So were standard features balls. So was zero to 60 times balls. So was interior road noise balls. So was the no extra cost for metallic paint balls. No extra cost for the Comfort Access Balls. And the list goes on and on an on.

But, IF you were to race both cars on Laguna Seca who would win? Nobody knows, but it would be a close race, no doubt about it. Then after the race I could keep the spare change I saved from not buying the 330i and fly to Europe and take a vacation. ; )
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I don't know what a "goob" is but I think it may be a guy who drives an M5, copies Lexus product info, and pastes it onto an E90 site.
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      10-26-2005, 07:53 PM   #19
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Relativity my dear friend, relativity.

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I don't know what a "goob" is but I think it may be a guy who drives an M5, copies Lexus product info, and pastes it onto an E90 site.
BINGO!
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