E90Post
 


 
BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum > E90 / E92 / E93 3-series Technical Forums > ConnectedDrive / I-Drive / Navigation Related Discussion > Comming Soon: Progman v25



Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      03-16-2007, 03:10 AM   #23
bmwexecutive
Banned
 
bmwexecutive's Avatar
 
Drives: 2006 330i
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: East Coast

Posts: 2,453
iTrader: (4)

Quote:
Originally Posted by funkahdafi View Post
the new software is already being deployed here in Germany. The software is much faster because they simplyfied the graphical interface and removed a lot of color and pictures. So the system has more memory to deal with what's important.

I attached some pictures of the new interface for you. Actually I like it better than the old. But see for yourself.
The i graphic on the center of the main screen does indeed look nicer!
bmwexecutive is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      03-16-2007, 03:24 AM   #24
Van_bimmer
Private
 
Drives: ex 2007 BMW 335i cabrio
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Vancouver, BC

Posts: 75
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by magmd View Post
Kewel...I have 3200 miles to go until next service interval. Should be right around the middle of April when its up...so, I will ask for it
THe 335 will be my third car with iDrive on it. And to the best of my knowledge, you simply cant ask for it, nor pay for it. You need to have some sort of problem with your computer functions first, such as 'CD Drive keeps spinning' or 'seat belt chime problem'.

iDrive is SOOOO slow cause BMW (or Microsoft) did not design the CCC with a fast enough processor to handle the split screen functions. The NAV system is what seems to bog it down the most, since its always running in the background. A 2004 530i I had, didnt have the nav option, and the iDrive was lightning fast in all functions, (hence no split screen with the smaller 6" screen). Seems like a huge oversight on BMW's part. This is definatley not a 3series problem... its been plaguing BMW for 5 years now, started on the 7er.
Van_bimmer is offline   Canada
0
Reply With Quote
      03-16-2007, 04:31 AM   #25
lkevinl
Lieutenant
 
Drives: '07 335i 4dr Sport+Premium+Nav
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: So. Cal.

Posts: 521
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Van_bimmer View Post
THe 335 will be my third car with iDrive on it. And to the best of my knowledge, you simply cant ask for it, nor pay for it. You need to have some sort of problem with your computer functions first, such as 'CD Drive keeps spinning' or 'seat belt chime problem'.

iDrive is SOOOO slow cause BMW (or Microsoft) did not design the CCC with a fast enough processor to handle the split screen functions. The NAV system is what seems to bog it down the most, since its always running in the background. A 2004 530i I had, didnt have the nav option, and the iDrive was lightning fast in all functions, (hence no split screen with the smaller 6" screen). Seems like a huge oversight on BMW's part. This is definatley not a 3series problem... its been plaguing BMW for 5 years now, started on the 7er.
Ugh... as discussed numerous times, the OS is not by Microsoft. It's by WindRiver called VxWorks and it is not necessarily processor power that makes it slow. Too much display overhead/memory is certainly a possibility as mentioned on this thread among numerous other things.
lkevinl is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      03-16-2007, 05:28 AM   #26
funkahdafi
Second Lieutenant
 
funkahdafi's Avatar
 
Drives: Z4 (E89) sDrive 35is
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Europe, Germany, Mannheim

Posts: 273
iTrader: (0)

Send a message via Skype™ to funkahdafi
you are all wrong.

The navigation PRO system is made by Siemens VDO while the Business version is made by Becker. Both german. And this info is 100% correct.
funkahdafi is offline   Germany
0
Reply With Quote
      03-16-2007, 06:35 AM   #27
SteveMD
Colonel
 
SteveMD's Avatar
 
Drives: '12 X5 50i, '11 GTI DSG
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Raventown!

Posts: 2,398
iTrader: (3)

Garage List
2012 X5 50i  [0.00]
Umm...my iDrive keeps locking up
__________________
2006 E90 330i (retired)
2009 E90 335i (retired)
2012 E70 X5 50i M Sport, JB Stage 1, 4.6 secs 0-60.
2011 VW GTI/DSG
SteveMD is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      03-16-2007, 06:52 AM   #28
gIzzE
Major General
 
gIzzE's Avatar
 
Drives: E350 cdi Estate.
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Norfolk, UK.

Posts: 5,129
iTrader: (2)

There is enough room for extra memory or a better processor on the 5 series ccc I can't remember which it was now, but a search on www.e60.net would bring it up again, would interesting to see this get used on the i-drive system.

funkahdafi is it noticeably quicker now with V.25??
gIzzE is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      03-16-2007, 09:47 AM   #29
HereAgain
Second Lieutenant
 
HereAgain's Avatar
 
Drives: E90 330i
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Aztlan

Posts: 298
iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2006 330i  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by KevinC View Post
Seriously, I feel sorry for all you iDrive victims, this "update" will no doubt solve some issues, but if history is any indication, will also break some stuff that was working before. This is where the Japanese cars have it all over the Germans.. when it comes to electronics, it's no contest.
Don't feel sorry for me, I'm no "iDrive victim." I love iDrive and would not have a Bimmer without it. I've had two Progman updates thus far and not one of them broke anything. Japanese or German? No contest. I'd rather have one E90 than two, for example, G35s. Or any other Japanese cars for that matter. I've owned several Japanese vehicles, and they were all very well designed and built. But they're no BMW.
__________________
"I'll tell you what war is all about, you've got to kill people, and when you've killed enough they stop fighting." - Gen. Curtis LeMay
HereAgain is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      03-16-2007, 10:11 AM   #30
gIzzE
Major General
 
gIzzE's Avatar
 
Drives: E350 cdi Estate.
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Norfolk, UK.

Posts: 5,129
iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by HereAgain View Post
Don't feel sorry for me, I'm no "iDrive victim." I love iDrive and would not have a Bimmer without it. I've had two Progman updates thus far and not one of them broke anything. Japanese or German? No contest. I'd rather have one E90 than two, for example, G35s. Or any other Japanese cars for that matter. I've owned several Japanese vehicles, and they were all very well designed and built. But they're no BMW.
Agreed, there is not one Japanese car on the market I would buy at the moment, on the cars that look and feel nice they are crap to drive and the ones that drive alright feel like a peice of shite!!

I also had a 535d msport touring with i-drive and an M3 obviously without, and my wife has a 120d msport without and the i-drive car feels so much more modern to use, I would never buy another BMW with out it again either.
gIzzE is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      03-16-2007, 10:43 AM   #31
335lvr
Major
 
335lvr's Avatar
 
Drives: E92
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: California

Posts: 1,441
iTrader: (4)

Did I miss something, or does that German Nav enable you to search points of interest by name??
__________________
"I'm not sure what the price difference is, but the BMW feels $15,000 better." -Edmunds, 2007
335lvr is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      03-16-2007, 11:16 AM   #32
funkahdafi
Second Lieutenant
 
funkahdafi's Avatar
 
Drives: Z4 (E89) sDrive 35is
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Europe, Germany, Mannheim

Posts: 273
iTrader: (0)

Send a message via Skype™ to funkahdafi
Quote:
Originally Posted by gIzzE View Post

funkahdafi is it noticeably quicker now with V.25??
I wasn't able to test this myself but the guy who did said it is VERY noticable and much better. The faster reaction of the system alone would make it worth to upgrade.
funkahdafi is offline   Germany
0
Reply With Quote
      03-16-2007, 11:17 AM   #33
funkahdafi
Second Lieutenant
 
funkahdafi's Avatar
 
Drives: Z4 (E89) sDrive 35is
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Europe, Germany, Mannheim

Posts: 273
iTrader: (0)

Send a message via Skype™ to funkahdafi
Quote:
Originally Posted by 335lvr View Post
Did I miss something, or does that German Nav enable you to search points of interest by name??
Nope, you didn't miss anything. It is a new feature introduced in v25. Very nice! It even let's you chose a radius in which to search in.
funkahdafi is offline   Germany
0
Reply With Quote
      03-16-2007, 11:20 AM   #34
ALPINE6SPD
Lieutenant General
 
ALPINE6SPD's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 BMW 328i Sport
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Highland Lakes NJ

Posts: 10,414
iTrader: (2)

Send a message via AIM to ALPINE6SPD
Quote:
Originally Posted by LEDZEP View Post
PUMA are cases opened by your BMW service department when they cannot solve a problem and cannot find a published resolution.

Wonder what fun problems the March '07 builds will have. At least these updates will be included.
If you plug in you I-POD the car blows up. Just a minor problem.
__________________
2010 AW e90 328i: 6 speed, Black Leather, Dark Wood trim, ZPP, ZCW, ZVP,ZSP, Nav, Xenon
BMW Performance CF Rear spolier and Gloss black grills
2008 Candy White MKV GTI 2.0T 6 Speed Manul Gone
2008 AW X3 3.0si: 6 speed Returned
2006 AW e90 330i: 6 speed Dinan Stage 1 Returned
ALPINE6SPD is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      03-16-2007, 11:44 AM   #35
TheDuke83
Gator
 
TheDuke83's Avatar
 
Drives: 2013 335i M Sport
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Atlanta, GA

Posts: 140
iTrader: (1)

So is this the version of i-drive you get if your car hasn't started production yet?
TheDuke83 is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      03-16-2007, 12:30 PM   #36
335lvr
Major
 
335lvr's Avatar
 
Drives: E92
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: California

Posts: 1,441
iTrader: (4)

Quote:
Originally Posted by funkahdafi View Post
Nope, you didn't miss anything. It is a new feature introduced in v25. Very nice! It even let's you chose a radius in which to search in.
Holy crap!:rocks: This will make the NAV 10,000 times more useful! When will this update be available in the States?
__________________
"I'm not sure what the price difference is, but the BMW feels $15,000 better." -Edmunds, 2007
335lvr is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      03-16-2007, 12:31 PM   #37
Soundstream
Private First Class
 
Drives: 2013 335i xDrive
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: leafdesign.ca

Posts: 155
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by rossmelvin View Post
ok good my dumbass chime got stuck on too, and i had my seat belt on so i have to restart (happends 2 times a week)
At least you can shut it off with a restart. In my Z4, the chime continues, even if you shut the car off!

You need to walk away from the car and come back in about 15 minutes, and it will turn itself off.
Soundstream is offline   Canada
0
Reply With Quote
      03-16-2007, 12:38 PM   #38
WilyB
Captain
 
WilyB's Avatar
 
Drives: E92 335
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: USA

Posts: 671
iTrader: (0)

Garage List


Isn't Mercure an "El Cheapo" French Hotel?
WilyB is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      03-16-2007, 02:44 PM   #39
magmd
Major General
 
magmd's Avatar
 
Drives: '06 330i
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Torrance, CA

Posts: 5,272
iTrader: (13)

Garage List
2006 330i  [0.00]
Nice....I am definitely looking forward to it.
__________________
2006 330i | Black Sapphire Metallic | Step Auto | Navi with iDr | Sports Pkg |OEM Rear Spoiler | 3M CS35 Tint | H&R Sport Springs | Koni Yellows | Advan RS Racing Hypersilver: 19x9 et22 19x10 et20
magmd is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      03-16-2007, 02:51 PM   #40
Greeney
Brigadier General
 
Greeney's Avatar
 
Drives: Jerez E90 M3
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Westchester, NY / Fort Lauderdale, FL

Posts: 3,803
iTrader: (4)

Send a message via AIM to Greeney Send a message via MSN to Greeney Send a message via Skype™ to Greeney
Sweet, the search is going to be great!
__________________
11' E90 M3 6MT | Jerez Black | Black Ext./Carbon | ZCP | ZCW | ZPP | ZTP | 302 | 403 | 507 | 5AC | 655 | 6FL | 752 |
15' F80 M3 6MT | Black Saphire | Black Full | ZEC | ZLP | 2VF | 2VZ | 5DL | 688 |
Greeney is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      03-16-2007, 02:53 PM   #41
yetdog
Private
 
Drives: 2006 325i
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Utica, NY

Posts: 61
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by 335lvr View Post
Holy crap!:rocks: This will make the NAV 10,000 times more useful! When will this update be available in the States?
I hope starting now! I just placed my order w/ my dealer, so it isn't even in BMW's system yet. I'm hoping/thinking that I should be all set with this version.
yetdog is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      03-16-2007, 04:43 PM   #42
rrandyy
Captain
 
Drives: E92 328
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: California

Posts: 787
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by 335lvr View Post
Holy crap!:rocks: This will make the NAV 10,000 times more useful! When will this update be available in the States?
Agreed!! This is the only problem I have with i-drive!
rrandyy is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      03-16-2007, 06:51 PM   #43
Brett
Captain
 
Drives: 2000 BMW 323 CiC
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Atlanta

Posts: 748
iTrader: (0)



At the risk of sounding stupid, are you searching for Hotels by Name? I thought one of the chief complaints about the iDrive was it lacked searching POI's by Name.

If so, can we expect this feature in US cars build after March 2007?

-Brett

EDIT: Nevermind, I see this was already asked and pointed out above! Yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!
__________________

Last edited by Brett; 03-16-2007 at 08:45 PM.
Brett is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      03-16-2007, 07:18 PM   #44
CoralRedPlz
restless
 
Drives: Space Grey, Coral Red 335i
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: around town

Posts: 485
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by rrandyy View Post
Agreed!! This is the only problem I have with i-drive!
+1
__________________
335i space, coral/gray poplar, step, loaded, but with no AS, AC or rear shade. Front lip painted and installed and springs going on this week. pics coming soon.
CoralRedPlz is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:02 AM.




e90post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST