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      08-16-2010, 02:40 PM   #1
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335d (N57) owners, can you help us N54 owners out?

Guys,
We're brainstorming on a way to retrofit a dipstick on the N54 (link).

Would any of you be kind enough to do the following?
  • Take a picture of your engine bay
  • Take a picture of the spot where the oil dipstick mounts on the block
We'd be very grateful.

Thanks!

-Walter
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      08-16-2010, 06:41 PM   #3
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Guys,
We're brainstorming on a way to retrofit a dipstick on the N54 (link).

Would any of you be kind enough to do the following?
  • Take a picture of your engine bay
  • Take a picture of the spot where the oil dipstick mounts on the block
We'd be very grateful.

Thanks!

-Walter
how would you cost effectively install a dipstick on a non-dip stick car.. short of dropping the oil pan, lowering the crank and popping out the mains to make sure you get no filing in there. drilling the block (which by the way will alter the structural integrity of the lower end) -- and installing a compression fit tube??? plus deal with the serious blowby issue that exist with this engine.

I know there are other F/I engines out there, so its not impossible, but will it be affordable, or practical?

not to be a kill-joy .. but what gives??
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      08-16-2010, 08:10 PM   #4
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how would you cost effectively install a dipstick on a non-dip stick car.. short of dropping the oil pan, lowering the crank and popping out the mains to make sure you get no filing in there. drilling the block (which by the way will alter the structural integrity of the lower end) -- and installing a compression fit tube??? plus deal with the serious blowby issue that exist with this engine.

I know there are other F/I engines out there, so its not impossible, but will it be affordable, or practical?

not to be a kill-joy .. but what gives??
well u wouldnt want to drill the block, the oil pan is where you would want to tap. No question it would be labor intensive.
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Ron1n: thanks so much for the quick response with pics, I really appreciate your time.

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...I know there are other F/I engines out there, so its not impossible, but will it be affordable, or practical?

not to be a kill-joy .. but what gives??
I see your point man, but turns out the dipstick is on the oilpan and this certainly makes things easier.

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well u wouldnt want to drill the block, the oil pan is where you would want to tap. No question it would be labor intensive.
Indeed. But I need the damn thing. I hope I can make this happen. It will be a PITA because I am a perfectionist, but I intend on giving it a shot.

Thanks for the help guys.

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you should have no problem drilling into the lower collector as well, as the sump is there. sump = no pressure.

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Don't you trust the sensor that reads the oil level?
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Don't you trust the sensor that reads the oil level?
I never trusted that thing....mine was possessed.
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Guys,
We're brainstorming on a way to retrofit a dipstick on the N54 (link).

Would any of you be kind enough to do the following?
  • Take a picture of your engine bay
  • Take a picture of the spot where the oil dipstick mounts on the block
We'd be very grateful.

Thanks!

-Walter
As you can see. The dipstick goes into the oil pan itself. Not the block.

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^^^ Can't you guys just but the replacement parts shown in the schematic above and avoid any problems?
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^^^ Can't you guys just but the replacement parts shown in the schematic above and avoid any problems?
I'm going to guess not judging by the different design.

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^^^ Can't you guys just but the replacement parts shown in the schematic above and avoid any problems?
I doubt that oil pan bolts onto our block and I probably wouldn't do it anyways as they appear to be different enough to justify adapting the dipstick on the N54 pan (oil pick up line etc)...

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