Converting to Euro Airbox: Gains? Possible?

1QuikWS6 · 09-12-2010, 03:18 PM

The CF parts already on my car - Upper Intake Snorkel (is actual BMW part wrapped in CF and cleared) & Lower Intake Snorkel (CF shell/cleared that attaches to factory part w/3M tape) have been on my car for some time now with absolutely no problems.

Only part I'm gonna buy from other CF pics is the CF Euro Lid cover which is also a shell/cleared that attaches with 3M tape. Don't see any reason why it wouldn't hold up just as well and at any rate it is the only mfg. I have found after extensive search that even has the CF Euro Lid available.

The Upper Snorkel was from EAS. Lower from ECS Tuning, and Lid is from Japan

guerilla twang · 09-12-2010, 03:27 PM

Frankintake.

Get it?

1QuikWS6 · 09-12-2010, 03:44 PM

Yup! It truly is...

1QuikWS6 · 09-13-2010, 03:10 PM

BTW, I have an extra K&N Filter #E-2022 FS that is used in the Euro Intake - if anyone else is doing this mod, or just looking for a replacement for stock filter on a Euro they already have installed...

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...05#post7985305

CobraMarty · 09-17-2010, 09:19 AM

I just pulled the trigger and ordered this Euro intake box from ECS. I also ordered the K+N filter off ebay for $47 incl shipping. I cant wait to install.

misterba · 09-17-2010, 08:47 PM

Guys, what do you think about this combination: Bought "cheap" BMW PERFORMANCE kit from China/e-bay, it looked good on the picture but the parts are junk, not fitting and I had to spent couple hours to make it fit. Because the kit is for Euro Box, (I was planning to buy one, but the magic is gone), I want to use the parts, even not perfect looking. So I was going to buy Injen CAI and leave carbon fiber part there. What is your opinion? For now I just put the oem piece back due to not fitting on the air box. But with Injen it will not matter, because air box will be gone. BTW they sent me half of the money back, so it wasn't that much loss. Few parts unused... But reminder about China crap.

bimmerfly · 09-18-2010, 06:55 AM

Wanna sell me your airbox then?

MOTO69JOE · 09-18-2010, 07:38 AM

Fucking Chinese... Dude just order the Euro box and it should fit a little better.

BudVlad · 09-18-2010, 09:37 AM

Actually the fitment is perfect and the quality is not bad. But you must have the euro airbox!!!
How did you figure that it will fit your airbox?

misterba · 09-18-2010, 10:09 AM

I know I have to get Euro air box. I was going to buy it from somebody who installed the CAI. But since it is soooo screwed up, there is missing part for intake close to the winshield, and I'm not even sure if the upper lid will fit to Euro box. The pictures are the lid for Euro and that's it. Well, it is kind of challenge. lol. Hey, Czech? I'm from Hradec Kralove...

misterba · 09-18-2010, 10:12 AM

Sorry, I was gonna to keep it and put it back on my car when the time comes to see I mean UPGRADE...lol.....

BudVlad · 09-18-2010, 10:50 AM

The part for the opening at the back of the lid is missing but it doesn’t do much for performance. It’s there probably for the sound. The lid fits the box with no problem.

misterba · 09-18-2010, 11:20 AM

Thanks. Maybe it would be worthwhile to get the euro air box and do it proper way... I'd have to get it from somebody who installed CAI and doesn't need it anymore. Not many BMW salwage yards here in Calif...

1QuikWS6 · 09-18-2010, 07:09 PM

Guess I'm kinda confused as to what you really did with all the different pics - but the GM Performance Upper Snorkel will NOT fit the Euro Airbox lid - the opening on the GM Performance Snorkel is bigger than the standard snorkel - Euro Airbox Lid will only mate up with standard upper snorkel...

misterba · 09-18-2010, 09:35 PM

I know. It comes with a lid converting BMW PERFORMANCE snorkel to the size of Euro box. I guess last picture shows it, although I cannot try it since I have regular US air box....

DBerg · 09-20-2010, 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MOTO69JOE

I did it and there was a noticeable sound difference....

I rec'd/installed my euro box & aFe filter today. To my surprise the exhaust does sound louder. I'm pleased with the purchase, as it's hundreds less than the US performance intake & I believe it's actually superior as it has a conical filter...

CobraMarty · 09-21-2010, 12:34 PM

Christmas came early today. UPS just delivered the EURO box from ECS. I ordered just the box and 7 screws that ECS told me I also needed, not the 'kit' as I bought a K+N filter off ebay for it. I opened the ups box and what I found was the euro box with 7 lid screws, lid, paper air filter, and the MASS AIR meter all attached together and wrapped and the extra 7 screws I ordered.

So do I use my old mass air meter or do I use the new mass air meter included with the box?

The mass air meter alone must be worth $225-300. I'll send back the 7 extra screws to ECS for credit.

Install maybe next week when work gives me a break.

BlackBimmer1991 · 09-21-2010, 01:35 PM

u can use your old one and save the new one till it breaks

misterba · 09-21-2010, 02:15 PM

What did they charge you for Euro box alone? No screws, lid, filter? Thanks.

1QuikWS6 · 09-21-2010, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CobraMarty

Christmas came early today. UPS just delivered the EURO box from ECS. I ordered just the box and 7 screws that ECS told me I also needed, not the 'kit' as I bought a K+N filter off ebay for it. I opened the ups box and what I found was the euro box with 7 lid screws, lid, paper air filter, and the MASS AIR meter all attached together and wrapped and the extra 7 screws I ordered.

So do I use my old mass air meter or do I use the new mass air meter included with the box?

The mass air meter alone must be worth $225-300. I'll send back the 7 extra screws to ECS for credit.

Install maybe next week when work gives me a break.

That MAF sensor is expensive - so ya can either keep it as a spare or sell on the forum (or guess you could swap it out for your old one - but if old one is working, they are the same sensor)

1QuikWS6 · 09-21-2010, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by misterba

What did they charge you for Euro box alone? No screws, lid, filter? Thanks.

You can't buy only the items you describe from ECS. You have to buy Item #1 as per the diagram which includes #2,3,4,5,6,7

The 'kit' he is referring to is the more expensive option where ECS includes a K&N filter to replace the factory paper filter.

SharpPointyStick · 09-21-2010, 04:36 PM

Is item 13 the same on North American and European cars?

Too bad you can only buy item 1 (which includes items 2-7), because without the MAF sensor (item 3?) the whole think should be a lot cheaper...assuming the MAF sensor is the same in NA as in EU.

09-12-2010, 03:18 PM	#133
1QuikWS6 No 55mph Drives: 09 E92 328iX N51 3-Stage Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Blitzburgh, PA Posts: 4,326 iTrader: (80) Garage List 2009 BMW 328iX E92 ... [0.00]	The CF parts already on my car - Upper Intake Snorkel (is actual BMW part wrapped in CF and cleared) & Lower Intake Snorkel (CF shell/cleared that attaches to factory part w/3M tape) have been on my car for some time now with absolutely no problems. Only part I'm gonna buy from other CF pics is the CF Euro Lid cover which is also a shell/cleared that attaches with 3M tape. Don't see any reason why it wouldn't hold up just as well and at any rate it is the only mfg. I have found after extensive search that even has the CF Euro Lid available. The Upper Snorkel was from EAS. Lower from ECS Tuning, and Lid is from Japan __________________ 2009 328ix E92//SGM//ACS Roof Spoiler//MTech Aero Lip+Trunk Spoiler//M3 Side Skirts//CF Roundels+Grilles//M3 Novillo Interior//Perf Shift Lever+Boot//MPerf DCT Wheel//M3 GT3 eBrake Handle+Boot//ACS Pedals//M3 Mirrors//LCI Tails w/LUX Rev//DTEC V7 AE+MTec 6000K D1S+HPB HID 6000K Fogs//HPB LED Interior//RPI Scoops//CF Euro Airbox+Underhood Hsgs//K&N//BMW PE//MTech Rear Bumper-iS Sport Diffuser//CF Strut Brace//Vishnu OFT//BMW 193M's+Kumho 4X
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09-12-2010, 03:27 PM	#134
guerilla twang I do my crosswords in pen. Drives: OEM+ 330i Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: KCMO Posts: 751 iTrader: (6)	Frankintake. Get it? __________________ GRUPPE TITAN Midwest
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09-12-2010, 03:44 PM	#135
1QuikWS6 No 55mph Drives: 09 E92 328iX N51 3-Stage Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Blitzburgh, PA Posts: 4,326 iTrader: (80) Garage List 2009 BMW 328iX E92 ... [0.00]	Yup! It truly is... __________________ 2009 328ix E92//SGM//ACS Roof Spoiler//MTech Aero Lip+Trunk Spoiler//M3 Side Skirts//CF Roundels+Grilles//M3 Novillo Interior//Perf Shift Lever+Boot//MPerf DCT Wheel//M3 GT3 eBrake Handle+Boot//ACS Pedals//M3 Mirrors//LCI Tails w/LUX Rev//DTEC V7 AE+MTec 6000K D1S+HPB HID 6000K Fogs//HPB LED Interior//RPI Scoops//CF Euro Airbox+Underhood Hsgs//K&N//BMW PE//MTech Rear Bumper-iS Sport Diffuser//CF Strut Brace//Vishnu OFT//BMW 193M's+Kumho 4X
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09-13-2010, 03:10 PM	#136
1QuikWS6 No 55mph Drives: 09 E92 328iX N51 3-Stage Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Blitzburgh, PA Posts: 4,326 iTrader: (80) Garage List 2009 BMW 328iX E92 ... [0.00]	BTW, I have an extra K&N Filter #E-2022 FS that is used in the Euro Intake - if anyone else is doing this mod, or just looking for a replacement for stock filter on a Euro they already have installed... http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...05#post7985305 __________________ 2009 328ix E92//SGM//ACS Roof Spoiler//MTech Aero Lip+Trunk Spoiler//M3 Side Skirts//CF Roundels+Grilles//M3 Novillo Interior//Perf Shift Lever+Boot//MPerf DCT Wheel//M3 GT3 eBrake Handle+Boot//ACS Pedals//M3 Mirrors//LCI Tails w/LUX Rev//DTEC V7 AE+MTec 6000K D1S+HPB HID 6000K Fogs//HPB LED Interior//RPI Scoops//CF Euro Airbox+Underhood Hsgs//K&N//BMW PE//MTech Rear Bumper-iS Sport Diffuser//CF Strut Brace//Vishnu OFT//BMW 193M's+Kumho 4X
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09-17-2010, 08:47 PM	#138
misterba Milan Drives: 2007 E90 328i Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Oceanside, California Posts: 158 iTrader: (2)	Guys, what do you think about this combination: Bought "cheap" BMW PERFORMANCE kit from China/e-bay, it looked good on the picture but the parts are junk, not fitting and I had to spent couple hours to make it fit. Because the kit is for Euro Box, (I was planning to buy one, but the magic is gone), I want to use the parts, even not perfect looking. So I was going to buy Injen CAI and leave carbon fiber part there. What is your opinion? For now I just put the oem piece back due to not fitting on the air box. But with Injen it will not matter, because air box will be gone. BTW they sent me half of the money back, so it wasn't that much loss. Few parts unused... But reminder about China crap. Attached Images Last edited by misterba; 09-17-2010 at 09:34 PM.
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09-17-2010, 09:19 AM	#137
CobraMarty Lieutenant Drives: 2007 328xi Coupe Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: PA Posts: 504 iTrader: (5)	I just pulled the trigger and ordered this Euro intake box from ECS. I also ordered the K+N filter off ebay for $47 incl shipping. I cant wait to install.
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09-18-2010, 06:55 AM	#139
bimmerfly New Member Drives: 325 E90 LCI Join Date: May 2010 Location: singapore Posts: 20 iTrader: (1)	Wanna sell me your airbox then?
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09-18-2010, 07:38 AM	#140
MOTO69JOE Captain Drives: E46, E90 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The South Posts: 877 iTrader: (3)	Fucking Chinese... Dude just order the Euro box and it should fit a little better.
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09-18-2010, 09:37 AM	#141
BudVlad Old Geezer Drives: 08 E92 N53B30 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Budweis Posts: 972 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 E92 N53B30 [0.00]	Actually the fitment is perfect and the quality is not bad. But you must have the euro airbox!!! How did you figure that it will fit your airbox? Attached Images __________________
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09-18-2010, 10:09 AM	#142
misterba Milan Drives: 2007 E90 328i Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Oceanside, California Posts: 158 iTrader: (2)	I know I have to get Euro air box. I was going to buy it from somebody who installed the CAI. But since it is soooo screwed up, there is missing part for intake close to the winshield, and I'm not even sure if the upper lid will fit to Euro box. The pictures are the lid for Euro and that's it. Well, it is kind of challenge. lol. Hey, Czech? I'm from Hradec Kralove... Last edited by misterba; 09-25-2010 at 07:01 PM.
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09-18-2010, 10:12 AM	#143
misterba Milan Drives: 2007 E90 328i Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Oceanside, California Posts: 158 iTrader: (2)	Sorry, I was gonna to keep it and put it back on my car when the time comes to see I mean UPGRADE...lol.....
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09-18-2010, 10:50 AM	#144
BudVlad Old Geezer Drives: 08 E92 N53B30 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Budweis Posts: 972 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 E92 N53B30 [0.00]	The part for the opening at the back of the lid is missing but it doesn’t do much for performance. It’s there probably for the sound. The lid fits the box with no problem. Attached Images __________________ Last edited by BudVlad; 09-18-2010 at 11:04 AM.
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09-18-2010, 11:20 AM	#145
misterba Milan Drives: 2007 E90 328i Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Oceanside, California Posts: 158 iTrader: (2)	Thanks. Maybe it would be worthwhile to get the euro air box and do it proper way... I'd have to get it from somebody who installed CAI and doesn't need it anymore. Not many BMW salwage yards here in Calif...
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09-18-2010, 07:09 PM	#146
1QuikWS6 No 55mph Drives: 09 E92 328iX N51 3-Stage Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Blitzburgh, PA Posts: 4,326 iTrader: (80) Garage List 2009 BMW 328iX E92 ... [0.00]	Guess I'm kinda confused as to what you really did with all the different pics - but the GM Performance Upper Snorkel will NOT fit the Euro Airbox lid - the opening on the GM Performance Snorkel is bigger than the standard snorkel - Euro Airbox Lid will only mate up with standard upper snorkel... __________________ 2009 328ix E92//SGM//ACS Roof Spoiler//MTech Aero Lip+Trunk Spoiler//M3 Side Skirts//CF Roundels+Grilles//M3 Novillo Interior//Perf Shift Lever+Boot//MPerf DCT Wheel//M3 GT3 eBrake Handle+Boot//ACS Pedals//M3 Mirrors//LCI Tails w/LUX Rev//DTEC V7 AE+MTec 6000K D1S+HPB HID 6000K Fogs//HPB LED Interior//RPI Scoops//CF Euro Airbox+Underhood Hsgs//K&N//BMW PE//MTech Rear Bumper-iS Sport Diffuser//CF Strut Brace//Vishnu OFT//BMW 193M's+Kumho 4X
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09-18-2010, 09:35 PM	#147
misterba Milan Drives: 2007 E90 328i Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Oceanside, California Posts: 158 iTrader: (2)	I know. It comes with a lid converting BMW PERFORMANCE snorkel to the size of Euro box. I guess last picture shows it, although I cannot try it since I have regular US air box....
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09-21-2010, 12:34 PM	#149
CobraMarty Lieutenant Drives: 2007 328xi Coupe Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: PA Posts: 504 iTrader: (5)	Christmas came early today. UPS just delivered the EURO box from ECS. I ordered just the box and 7 screws that ECS told me I also needed, not the 'kit' as I bought a K+N filter off ebay for it. I opened the ups box and what I found was the euro box with 7 lid screws, lid, paper air filter, and the MASS AIR meter all attached together and wrapped and the extra 7 screws I ordered. So do I use my old mass air meter or do I use the new mass air meter included with the box? The mass air meter alone must be worth $225-300. I'll send back the 7 extra screws to ECS for credit. Install maybe next week when work gives me a break. __________________ 2007 328xi E92 Coupe // 6 MT-Crimson Red, Black Interior, Brushed Silver Trim//Sport Seats//BMW Perf. SW Alcantara//CF Roof, Front Lip, Trunk Lip Spoilers//18" 197, F-5mm, R-15mm Spacers//Akebono Euro Ceramic Pads//MGP Red Caliper Covers//BMW Alarm System//BMW CF Perf. Strut Brace//LUX H8 v3.0 AE//6k HID Fogs//BMW PE//Macht Schnell Intake Scoops//BMW EURO Intake//AA Tune//188AWHP-->196AWHP-->216AWHP//SOON- 3 Stage Intake Manifold!
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09-21-2010, 01:35 PM	#150
BlackBimmer1991 Lieutenant Drives: Black E90 328xi Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: PA Posts: 500 iTrader: (1)	u can use your old one and save the new one till it breaks __________________ Ebay intake (with K&N Air filter), Power Box, Blackout Grills, Valentine 1 (hardwired)
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09-21-2010, 02:15 PM	#151
misterba Milan Drives: 2007 E90 328i Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Oceanside, California Posts: 158 iTrader: (2)	What did they charge you for Euro box alone? No screws, lid, filter? Thanks.
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09-21-2010, 04:36 PM	#154
SharpPointyStick Second Lieutenant Drives: 2006 Alpine White 323i (E90) Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Vancouver BC Posts: 274 iTrader: (2)	Is item 13 the same on North American and European cars? Too bad you can only buy item 1 (which includes items 2-7), because without the MAF sensor (item 3?) the whole think should be a lot cheaper...assuming the MAF sensor is the same in NA as in EU.
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