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      03-30-2007, 09:01 PM   #287
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What the cable actually does is to convert the USB to operate the iPod via its' serial control interface (which is totally different from its' USB interface). Thus all the internal logic that you use via the iPod click wheel, etc. and more is available to the BMW Radio/iDrive.

The cable doesn't speed up the indexing per se. The iPod already has an index of all songs. The 6FL can access this index via the cable and thus doesn't have to do the indexing itself.

The device mentioned by mrbelk does NOT access the serial interface so when used with 6FL it isn't any different than a straight USB cable.
Interesting. It was just a thought; since it's a dock-usb connector + lineout audio. I didn't think there would be any difference. I reckon that little mid-stream "brick" in the 6FL cable _does_ perform some function. I am going to push my CA _hard_ to let me take a cable with me to Germany when I pick up my 335 in May.

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      03-31-2007, 12:33 AM   #288
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Also re-checked the cable situation in the UK with my dealer. He has now confirmed there is some confusion because a standard cable (which works partially) is supplied but the iPod specifc cable (which works fully) is not. He also confirmed the part number for iPod one is 61 12 0 422 099.

All I can say is thank god for this forum. Without it I would never found out about 6FL in the first place!
I went by my U.K. dealer and the guy flat out told me that they cannot do anything for me until they get in the new parts CD so they can find the part I want to order! I had him show me every part in the 3 series (referencing stereo cables) and all he could find where the MOST connectors and the Aux Port in glove box cable. He then looked under the 5 series parts and found a part called "Cable Adapter for Apple IPod" and I rejoiced! That must be the part I say...but alas there is no picture to confirm what it looks like. He then proceeded to argue with me that it was for a 5 series and not a 3 series. I attempted to explain that is doesn't matter...since the USB/3.5mm jack are standard no matter what car you have (maybe location IN the car may be...but a USB is a USB). I left in disgust....AGAIN.

Now that I am armed with the information you provided...I'm going to call as soon as they open this morning and get one on order...or starting calling other dealers here in Suffolk until I find one who will.

EDIT: Ok...I take it all back. I just called and talked to the parts department and they DO have the adapter ON ORDER, it has just not been released by BMW. So...I must publicly apologize for ripping on my local dealer. Instead...I will publicly rip on BMW for making 6FL cars but NOT having the adapter in the cars or dealers when they arrive.
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Good work Eric! Did your dealer say when they are expecting the cables to arrive? And did you find out if the 5 series cable is the same one?
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      03-31-2007, 05:25 PM   #290
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Good work Eric! Did your dealer say when they are expecting the cables to arrive? And did you find out if the 5 series cable is the same one?
Looks like it is the same one...I was just happy that they had in fact ordered one...it's just a matter of time till it arrives.
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      03-31-2007, 05:59 PM   #291
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Eric - let us know how you make out.
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      04-02-2007, 09:55 AM   #292
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I pick up my car today but I've already talked to my CA and she confirmed that I won't be getting the cable today.

I got the Nav/iDrive option and I was looking forward to seeing how it works. But oh well.:mad:
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      04-02-2007, 10:24 AM   #293
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Yeah, we were all looking forward to it. Way to go BMW!
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      04-02-2007, 12:37 PM   #294
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Invoice price?

I've seen plenty of references to the $400 MSRP, but since many of us are working with Invoice+ pricing, I'd love to know the invoice amount for 6fl. I imagine anyone who price their car in this way, and picked up their ride recently, should be able to say.
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My dealer is saying the cable should be in tomorrow.... we'll see how that plays out.
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      04-02-2007, 01:12 PM   #296
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I've seen plenty of references to the $400 MSRP, but since many of us are working with Invoice+ pricing, I'd love to know the invoice amount for 6fl. I imagine anyone who price their car in this way, and picked up their ride recently, should be able to say.
$365.
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$365.
Thanks. Not quite the $300 I was hoping for, but, whatcha gonna do?!
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My dealer is saying the cable should be in tomorrow.... we'll see how that plays out.
Good luck! The local parts department here pretty much hates me...since I have bugged them 3 times in the last week about that cable. But hey...it's like buying a motorcycle and only getting one wheel.
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The lower the price of the option, the lower the margin. I still assume it's a great deal even at retail. If I ever get to use it I'll let you know.
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Good luck! The local parts department here pretty much hates me...since I have bugged them 3 times in the last week about that cable. But hey...it's like buying a motorcycle and only getting one wheel.
If I catch a whiff of attitude from the parts department I will not hesitate to call the GM. I will also remind him that BMW has not yet called me for the rating on my purchase experience.
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If I catch a whiff of attitude from the parts department I will not hesitate to call the GM. I will also remind him that BMW has not yet called me for the rating on my purchase experience.
Yeah...I can't wait to get for them to ask for my opinion. My "dealership" is great...they were just uninformed about the 6FL. But...BMW themselves...by not shipping out the cables....lookout....they are going to get an ear chewing.
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Yeah...I can't wait to get for them to ask for my opinion. My "dealership" is great...they were just uninformed about the 6FL. But...BMW themselves...by not shipping out the cables....lookout....they are going to get an ear chewing.
I thought it sucked that the cable won't be delivered with the car when I pick it up in Munich ... but to not get it with your car in the states??? I did ask my CA about having the parts department order it so I could take it with me and I would replace it with the one on redelivery ....He said they don't do that
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I thought it sucked that the cable won't be delivered with the car when I pick it up in Munich ... but to not get it with your car in the states??? I did ask my CA about having the parts department order it so I could take it with me and I would replace it with the one on redelivery ....He said they don't do that
God forbid they go a little out of their way to please a customer.
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God forbid they go a little out of their way to please a customer.
When I found out that HD was available, I added the option to my order. My dealer never informed me of the availability of 6fl. As I matter of fact, I had an argument with him: he insisted that the dealer option is the same as 6FL!

I had to use the info from the Forum to inform him of the difference.

He then proceeded to inform me that he could not add 6fl...this was at
"Scheduled for Prod. w/ no confirmed Product. date"!!
BMWNA could not do anything either; only te dealer can modify orders...

The dealer: "If I have to add 6FL, you'll have to wait another 12 weeks" This is after waiting 6 weeks already!!!

So, I missed on 6 FL COMPLETELY!!!...because of my dealer.

You, at least have 6FL and will eventually get your cables! I, will never get 6FL on this car!

So, be patient folks...enjoy your cars...there is a lot to explore before you get the cable...Consider yourselves LUCKY!

Enjoy, don't let a delay ruin the experience!
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God forbid they go a little out of their way to please a customer.
Really. The lady that sold me my 2003 325 coupe now is a service manager (she used to do that before she moved into sales). May try calling her tomorrow with the part number. She may have a better connection with parts manager. I am a little sorry now I didn't order the HD... I figured with the IPOD/USB connector I wouldn't listen to the FM as much... CA told me I should be turning off the radio and just enjoy listening to the car anyway
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You, at least have 6FL and will eventually get your cables! I, will never get 6FL on this car!

So, be patient folks...enjoy your cars...there is a lot to explore before you get the cable...Consider yourselves LUCKY!

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DUH CAR,

Thanks for the part #

I had our parts department go ahead and order a couple of the cables. They currently show plenty of availability. It is strange however that BMW has yet to send out a bulletin with the part # or ordering instructions.

Anyone taking delivery at the Performance Center will have the cable, unless we don't receive the cables in time (which I don't think will happen).
I'm just curious if you have any more info on this. It's been posted elsewhere that there's a freeze on the parts right now.

I'm especially concerned because after my PCD May 2nd I'm going straight to a 4-6 week trip through the east before driving back to LA. That means that if I don't get it that day, I won't have it for the entire trip.
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I'm just curious if you have any more info on this. It's been posted elsewhere that there's a freeze on the parts right now.

I'm especially concerned because after my PCD May 2nd I'm going straight to a 4-6 week trip through the east before driving back to LA. That means that if I don't get it that day, I won't have it for the entire trip.

I hope for you brother! Fingers crossed.

The PC will probably get priority. You'll have yours before I have mine.. how's that for fair?

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