[jayparry]

If they're gonna give this car 450hp I wouldn't pay a penny over 100k for it.

Horsepower wars are over - its about power WITH lightness. People who want to 'stick to the roots' of NA engines v10-v12 are going to be left behind.

You now know why the elder generation says 'nothing great was built after 1969' or whatever. That was their golden age and they continue to live in it. So should those of you that are resistant to the future... go buy an old 8 series/m1/e30 and restore it, that sounds awesome. But let the future happen.

The idea of this car is power+efficiency. Thats the whole mantra. And THAT is harder to do and proves BMWs chops as an engineering company. Doing the same thing as others or doing the same thing they did in the past isn't what we want from BMW. Promise.

That said IMHO this car should be called the 8-series

[graider]

Originally Posted by shift@red

This sounds like they are going to try to copy Porsche's 918 design (and ferrari's 599 hybrid), but not at the same price or performance level.

you just like to put bmw behind porsche any chance you have don't you?

[hl0m4n]

anyone else think the new lotus line up will be end game

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by hl0m4n

anyone else think the new lotus line up will be end game

It's going to be a long wait. According to Autoblog, the only one of those five concepts that's even in development right now is the new Esprit.

[hl0m4n]

Originally Posted by mkoesel

It's going to be a long wait. According to Autoblog, the only one of those five concepts that's even in development right now is the new Esprit.

o really? i love the designs especially the elise was it (the cheapest one at $46k)? once tuners get hands of that you will have a mini style ferrari with a kick. gonna be hard to beat that car if it comes out...

now back on topic bmw what ?