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      03-02-2011, 01:08 PM   #45
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This is definitely an epic fight and go either way; and no doubt will make the UFC a lot of money which is why I think Dana wants it more than anyone right now.

All that aside I think 8/10 times GSP would win this fight by decision. Silva is only going to beat GSP with a KO. We all know GSP has no intentions of striking at all with Silva.

I also predict a really boring fight. GSP is going to sit outside of Silva's range. Silva will be very hesitant to move into range due to the takedown threat. Couple that with Silva preferring to counterstrike and it will make for a lot of dancing around with not much going on in terms of actual hits. A lot of positioning, feints, and footwork will be happening but not much else.

Why GSP then? GSP will eventually get a takedown when Silva gets frustrated because GSP is the more patient fighter. Silva has great BJJ don't get me wrong, but it won't be good enough to submit GSP from guard. I do see Silva having the ability get eventually get back up, but GSP will eventually get him back down again thus scoring more points.

Or... GSP could surprise us and come out very aggressive which obviously will make for a better fight from our point of view
I disagree a little..... Silva will not sit outside long he doesnt have the patience for it, and when he does decide to engage, he will surely land a few, but ultimately end up on his back.

From here it is in GSP's hands of whether or not he can defeat Silva, or the judges defeat Silva.
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I have to disagree w/ you guys saying GSP uses size and strength to out muscle people at 170. When in fact GSP is fairly small for 170, he only cuts roughly 10lbs before a fight, he is much smaller than guys like Thiago Alvares. GSP uses flawless technique and amazing speed for his takedowns, thats why they are so affective

look at the way he closes distance when he goes for a take down, its lighting fast. I dont think he will loose one bit of speed by going up in weight, not only cause the type of training he does but also the type of diet he will use to get the extra weight

still cant wait for this, look how much attention this is getting and the fight is still theoretical
I agree with everything you said other than GSP's weight. I met him 2 years ago, right before his first fight with Fitch, and he told me he weighed 186. I believe he weighs a bit more since then. So I think he is a bit bigger than you think.

But I think you are definitely right, his technical ability is so strong, the fact Silva is a little bigger isn't going to make a huge difference in my opinion. I suspect GSP will get to 195 natural weight before this fight and cut 10 lbs. I suspect Silva is 200-205 at his natural weight when he is fighting at 185.
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I disagree a little..... Silva will not sit outside long he doesnt have the patience for it, and when he does decide to engage, he will surely land a few, but ultimately end up on his back.

From here it is in GSP's hands of whether or not he can defeat Silva, or the judges defeat Silva.
Damned judges... you hear Joe's rant on them during a live event a few months ago? lol he wanted to make clear to the fans that the UFC has NO control over the judges. They are assigned by state and typically know nothing about MMA, only boxing.

It's so stupid. There are a few good ones but it only takes one bad judge to screw things up.
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Okami would get the title shot next. Supposedly Vitor wants a shot at Bisping now.
Lol everyone wants to be the person to knock him out. I'm sure whoever does it first will have an even bigger fanbase than before. I know Okami is the no1 contender, not sure who else I'd put in the mix, maybe Wanderlei after he wins another fight? Either way, I'd love to see Silva add Bisping to his highlight reel and make a mockery of him Griffin style
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Gsp's current walk around weight is 192. Silvas is 222. There will be a MAJOR strength difference. I really beleive gsp goes down with the first set of strikes silva lands. Silva has five guaranteed shots at doing this with the beginning of each round. On the ground gsp is dominant and silva has finished all wrestlers of his back so I give that area a 50/50. Silvas chances are far better than gsp's.
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Gsp's current walk around weight is 192. Silvas is 222. There will be a MAJOR strength difference. I really beleive gsp goes down with the first set of strikes silva lands. Silva has five guaranteed shots at doing this with the beginning of each round. On the ground gsp is dominant and silva has finished all wrestlers of his back so I give that area a 50/50. Silvas chances are far better than gsp's.
GSP I can believe is 192, but no way is Silva 222 and cutting to 185... That is almost 40 lbs... How do you know he walks around at 222?
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I've heard various reports about Anderson's weight, I have heard 215-220 before but recently I'm hearing 190-200. Don't know what to believe. I'll see if I can ask a friend who has trained with Team Black House.

How it is possible is off-season, 6 months of cutting weight, obviously 30+ lbs is not water weight.
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I've heard various reports about Anderson's weight, I have heard 215-220 before but recently I'm hearing 190-200. Don't know what to believe. I'll see if I can ask a friend who has trained with Team Black House.

How it is possible is off-season, 6 months of cutting weight, obviously 30+ lbs is not water weight.
Well I mean if he gets fat in the off-season that is fine (Rampage does it all the time). But what we really care about is what weight will he be when he steps into the ring?

No way does Silva walk into the Octagon ring at 220+ GSP probably walks into the Octagon before the fight at 185-190. I couldn't see Silva being much more than 205 tops on fight night.
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Well I mean if he gets fat in the off-season that is fine (Rampage does it all the time). But what we really care about is what weight will he be when he steps into the ring?

No way does Silva walk into the Octagon ring at 220+ GSP probably walks into the Octagon before the fight at 185-190. I couldn't see Silva being much more than 205 tops on fight night.
I weighed in at 135 and the next day was 148 before.

13 lbs for my body weight is a lot. My buddy fights at 145 and walks around at about 160. Obviously there is a lot more room to gain in a bigger fighter.
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I dont think Anderson walks around 220, thats too much weight to loose for someone his age. Maybe he put on weight for his two fights a LHW but he cant walk around at more than 200-205 now a days.
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I weighed in at 135 and the next day was 148 before.

13 lbs for my body weight is a lot. My buddy fights at 145 and walks around at about 160. Obviously there is a lot more room to gain in a bigger fighter.
It changes for bigger guys but I don't think it changes as much as you think. I think it may even be a little easier for smaller guys to cut a larger percent. I have no science to back this up but we have a lot of smaller guys cutting up to 10% without much issue. Most of the bigger guys have to really work to hit 10%.

You did 8-9%
Silva going from 222 to 185 is 16-17%

Who knows though, maybe Steven Seagal has a special technique for that too
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It changes for bigger guys but I don't think it changes as much as you think. I think it may even be a little easier for smaller guys to cut a larger percent. I have no science to back this up but we have a lot of smaller guys cutting up to 10% without much issue. Most of the bigger guys have to really work to hit 10%.

You did 8-9%
Silva going from 222 to 185 is 16-17%

Who knows though, maybe Steven Seagal has a special technique for that too
Sure if it's 222. But if it's 205-210-215, it's more likely possible.

lol@steven seagal
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In a interview last night after the Sanchez fight, GSP said he thinks Anderson does walk around at 230 lbs. But who knows.
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I'm not sure if you guys have seen it but Anderson Silva made an appearance on the TV show Cribs but the Portuguese version.

Anyways, Silva said he weighed 220 in that episode but he looked really big and bloated. I've never seen him like that before. I also think he had a bit of time off too. I'm was always under the impression fighters gain a few pounds when they are not training so first they lose weight - maybe 10 pounds or so, then they begin to cut. In Silva's case I see him realistically exercising and losing weight until he hits around 200-205 and then he cuts from there.
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Anderson does walk around at 220-225. He loves eating frozen foods, junk food and candy. It's only when he trains for fights does he trim the fat down.
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I can't picture his lanky ass weighing 225 lol.
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I can't picture his lanky ass weighing 225 lol.
There's a ufc brazil interview of him and his house. He goes around talking about his lifestyle, training and his family. He shows the host all over his crib and when he gets to the kitchen, BAM! Shocked the hell out of me haha!
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Was this it?



Mid section looks a little thick, face looks little chubs, but he doesn't look 225
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^^ I can see him being 220, but not more. Forrest is one of the biggest light heavyweights and he walks around at 240. You guys remember him in the Ultimate Fighter when it it was chuck and tito/rich. Forrest looked HUGE!
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Mid section looks a little thick, face looks little chubs, but he doesn't look 225
Yep, that's it

Haha, Forrest is a damn forest. He's massive!
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Ive lost 30-40lbs in a 6-8week period getting ready for all natural bodybuiding shows. The first time was hard. Now at age 38, i can cut weight really easy and keep alot of my strenght. Even when i'm a week out from a show and dehydrating, its easy for me to run 3-5 miles a day.
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There is no way GSP will take Silva.
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