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      03-04-2011, 12:48 PM   #23
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here you go. I bought a new drive and copied everything off of the old one on to this new one and its a bit faster but I don't think it's at the full potential yet that's why i want to reinstall OSX to see if my minds fucking with me or this is how it should be. But I could swear when I first got it, it was much quicker wiht less hard drive noise. Also this drive seems to be quiter.

I booted off of the old drive if that makes a difference here. Also this was at idle with just safari open.

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$ export PS1="$ "
$ sar -g -p 2 10

13:15:01    pgout/s

13:15:01     pgin/s        pflt/s        vflt/s

13:15:03    pgout/s
13:15:03        0.0   

13:15:03     pgin/s        pflt/s        vflt/s
13:15:03        0.5           0.5          66.5

13:15:05    pgout/s
13:15:05        0.0   

13:15:05     pgin/s        pflt/s        vflt/s
13:15:05        0.0           0.0           5.0

13:15:07    pgout/s
13:15:07        0.0   

13:15:07     pgin/s        pflt/s        vflt/s
13:15:07        0.0           0.0          29.0

13:15:09    pgout/s
13:15:09        0.0   

13:15:09     pgin/s        pflt/s        vflt/s
13:15:09        0.0           0.0          13.0

13:15:11    pgout/s
13:15:11        0.0   

13:15:11     pgin/s        pflt/s        vflt/s
13:15:11        0.0           0.5          88.0

13:15:13    pgout/s
13:15:13        0.0   

13:15:13     pgin/s        pflt/s        vflt/s
13:15:13        0.0           0.0          45.5

13:15:15    pgout/s
13:15:15        0.0   

13:15:15     pgin/s        pflt/s        vflt/s
13:15:15        0.0           0.0          12.5

13:15:17    pgout/s
13:15:17        0.0   

13:15:17     pgin/s        pflt/s        vflt/s
13:15:17        0.0           0.0        1576.0

13:15:19    pgout/s
13:15:19        0.0   

13:15:19     pgin/s        pflt/s        vflt/s
13:15:19        0.0           0.0          12.0

13:15:21    pgout/s
13:15:21        0.0   

13:15:21     pgin/s        pflt/s        vflt/s
13:15:21        0.0           0.0          20.5

Average:    pgout/s
Average:        0.0

Average:     pgin/s        pflt/s        vflt/s
Average:        0.1           0.1         186.8
$
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Mach Virtual Memory Statistics: (page size of 4096 bytes, cache hits 0%)
  free active   spec inactive   wire   faults     copy    0fill reactive  pageins  pageout
 1108K 171378 144981    62700  84491  1512697    48870   932733        0    43311        0 
 1108K 171355 144981    62700  84491     1601        0     1585        0        0        0 
 1108K 171442 144981    62700  84235     1702        1     1685        0        0        0 
 1108K 171454 144981    62700  84235     1626        0     1614        0        0        0 
 1104K 174563 144977    62927  84688     6200        0     5614        0        3        0 
 1104K 174553 144977    62927  84688     1606        0     1582        0        0        0 
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 1104K 175053 144977    62927  84472     1597        2     1583        0        0        0 
 1104K 175060 144977    62927  84472     1598        0     1587        0        0        0 
 1104K 175060 144977    62927  84472     1591        0     1580        0        0        0 
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      03-04-2011, 01:31 PM   #24
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^The above looks fine. Were you experiencing the problem when you took this sample? If not, I'd suggest you try it when the problem occurs. If so, then it probably isn't a memory issue. Be aware that if it is a memory issue, the chances are it won't be so noticeable immediately following a reboot.
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      03-04-2011, 02:02 PM   #25
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the memory should come in today.. I'll swap all of them out and see if the problem continues
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I did this while copying the other hard drive and opening simple apps like mail itunes etc to show you. and it was under a crazy load

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$ export PS1="$ "
$ sar -g -p 2 10

15:04:28    pgout/s

15:04:28     pgin/s        pflt/s        vflt/s

15:04:30    pgout/s
15:04:30        0.0   

15:04:30     pgin/s        pflt/s        vflt/s
15:04:30        0.0           2.5        1033.0

15:04:32    pgout/s
15:04:32        0.0   

15:04:32     pgin/s        pflt/s        vflt/s
15:04:32        0.0           1.5        1032.0

15:04:34    pgout/s
15:04:34        0.0   

15:04:34     pgin/s        pflt/s        vflt/s
15:04:34       10.5         243.0        2198.5

15:04:36    pgout/s
15:04:36        0.0   

15:04:36     pgin/s        pflt/s        vflt/s
15:04:36      185.5         272.0        1870.0

15:04:38    pgout/s
15:04:38        0.0   

15:04:38     pgin/s        pflt/s        vflt/s
15:04:38       93.0          96.5        2413.5

15:04:40    pgout/s
15:04:40        0.0   

15:04:40     pgin/s        pflt/s        vflt/s
15:04:40       89.5         250.5        3506.5

15:04:42    pgout/s
15:04:42        0.0   

15:04:42     pgin/s        pflt/s        vflt/s
15:04:42        9.0          31.0        3546.0

15:04:44    pgout/s
15:04:44        0.0   

15:04:44     pgin/s        pflt/s        vflt/s
15:04:44       14.0          34.0        1481.5

15:04:46    pgout/s
15:04:46        0.0   

15:04:46     pgin/s        pflt/s        vflt/s
15:04:46       15.5          76.5        3712.0

15:04:48    pgout/s
15:04:48        0.0   

15:04:48     pgin/s        pflt/s        vflt/s
15:04:48      101.5         104.5        3457.5

Average:    pgout/s
Average:        0.0

Average:     pgin/s        pflt/s        vflt/s
Average:       51.8         111.2        2425.1
$ vm_stat 2
Mach Virtual Memory Statistics: (page size of 4096 bytes, cache hits 0%)
  free active   spec inactive   wire   faults     copy    0fill reactive  pageins  pageout
  1726 374501  1024K    79884  91757  4435729    64085  3019796       90    64485      223 
  1585 374769  1023K    79885  91632     2769        0     2713        0        1        0 
  2000 374400  1024K    79887  91649     1903        0     1835        0        1        0 
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Mach Virtual Memory Statistics: (page size of 4096 bytes, cache hits 0%)
  free active   spec inactive   wire   faults     copy    0fill reactive  pageins  pageout
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I benched both drives using a disk speed app

Old - 10.9 seconds
New - 5.2 seconds

Ok here is what I think is happening tell me if this makes sense. The old hard drive was on its way out which is why it slowed down the computer. It also corrupted some files maybe and those are being copied over to the new one. Also some of the permissions are messed up because after repairing them I check it and they're still there.

This is why I want to reformat and do a clean install. But like an idiot i threw away the install CD
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$29 from Apple Store - says it is for upgrade only but I have done fresh installs with mine!
yup i bought it and installed it. My mac is good as new again. Off to installing programs
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