H&R Sport Springs + Bilstein Shocks = Spacers? - BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum

BMW1986 · 05-01-2011, 04:50 PM

Hello everyone!!

I am currently running H&R Sport Springs and Bilstein Shocks. I am wondering on here if anyone installed spacers in both the rear and the front. I was thinking about 10MM in the rear and 5MM in the front? Will that work??

Thanks!

4corners · 05-01-2011, 07:08 PM

Use the same size spacers front and rear if you can. You are altering the setup by 10mm overall. 5x2 in front. 10x2 in back. You will be 10mm wider in front, 20mm wider in the rear. You will feel the handling difference.

MassBimmer · 05-01-2011, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 4corners

Use the same size spacers front and rear if you can. You are altering the setup by 10mm overall. 5x2 in front. 10x2 in back. You will be 10mm wider in front, 20mm wider in the rear. You will feel the handling difference.

No you won't. Anyone would be hard pressed to notice the handling difference unless pushing the car to its limits.

expelled · 05-01-2011, 08:31 PM

I am also curious about this!

4corners · 05-01-2011, 09:03 PM

Search for a thread called, "It's hip to be square". As in a square setup. Some say all you should consider is the overall diameter. But weight and the actual contact patch on the ground matters too. These cars are very balanced front to rear. Why short change the rubber up front?

BMW1986 · 05-02-2011, 09:44 PM

I understand. I am just curious as if I am going to rub since the suspension settled A LOT since I installed everything. I can barely get my hand in the rear wheel well.

JayP · 05-06-2011, 12:43 PM

I am using 25mm spacers ( that bolts into the hub ) in the back, and none in the front for now. Drives perfectly.
Looks much much better.

I will be adding 15 or 20mm in the front very soon.

Here's a pic if you wanna see... H&R springs + Bilstein shocks.

MassBimmer · 05-06-2011, 01:39 PM

I'm lowered on H&R Sport springs (getting Bilstein sports installed on Sunday) and have 18x8.5 ET35 with 12 mm spacers in the rear. However, I have 235/40 tires all around. Your stock wheels are 18x8.5 ET37 in the rear with a 255 tire. I'm thinking you should be able to fit a 10 mm spacer no problem

jackb · 05-09-2011, 10:43 PM

with your wheels and spacers you'd have 18X8 Et24 F and 18x8.5 ET32 Rear
that's an easy combo for a sedan even dropped

I have a Coupe (less room in the back) lowered with Eibach pro and I run the following Front 18 X 8 ET20 Rear 18 X 9 ET24 with 235/265 tires

BMW1986 · 05-13-2011, 09:49 PM

That is what I was thinking as well; 10MM in the rear without any issue. How much could I fit in the front?

joed1 · 05-16-2011, 02:09 PM

Seems like Bilsteins for the x are not available till June. I searched everywhere.

BMCoupe_782 · 05-16-2011, 04:30 PM

^^ yep. they're on backorder right now.

Patsfan123 · 05-16-2011, 06:53 PM

Don't do 10mm, it needs to be at least 12mm not to interfere with the stock hub.

I have a 5mm in the front and I was worried about the vibration, but as far as I can tell, there is none from before spacers.

BMW1986 · 05-16-2011, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by joed1

Seems like Bilsteins for the x are not available till June. I searched everywhere.

Did you call Turner Motorsports? That's where I got mine from. June is in 2 weeks dude! LOL

e85sbm · 05-16-2011, 10:35 PM

I know performance is better with this setup, but, how is the ride quality? Crashy over potholes, same as stock? Firmer / more jarring than stock? Comfortable like a Subaru STI...hurts on bumps, but worth every penny because of the perception of sportiness/performance?

BMCoupe_782 · 05-17-2011, 09:07 AM

Turner is actually backordered on them until "end of June" they told me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMW1986

Did you call Turner Motorsports? That's where I got mine from. June is in 2 weeks dude! LOL

joed1 · 05-17-2011, 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMW1986

Did you call Turner Motorsports? That's where I got mine from. June is in 2 weeks dude! LOL

Yes, I know. I have no patience what so ever. I am just hoping their projections are right. Looking forward to getting them on with some H&Rs.

BMW1986 · 05-18-2011, 12:17 PM

Which spacers do most of us prefer?

joed1 · 06-18-2011, 05:14 AM

Anyone hear anything about the Bilsteins yet? I haven't heard anything from Bavarian Autosport as far as a shipping time.

BMCoupe_782 · 06-26-2011, 10:09 PM

My Bilstein sports were just shipped. Going to get them installed along with H&R Sport Springs.

joed1 · 07-10-2011, 06:22 AM

Everything in, little lower in rear than I anticipated. Slight rubbing on bumps. Otherwise looks great. Will wait for settling to see if anything else needs to be addressed.

BMW1986 · 07-10-2011, 09:31 PM

I have no rubbing on the rear.

05-01-2011, 04:50 PM	#1
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05-02-2011, 09:44 PM	#6
BMW1986 Major Drives: 11 M3 E92 ZCP JB/PS & BLK Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 1,456 iTrader: (7)	I understand. I am just curious as if I am going to rub since the suspension settled A LOT since I installed everything. I can barely get my hand in the rear wheel well. __________________ 11 E92 M3 DCT Jerez Black ZCP...Eisenmann, Dinan, Fabspeed, IND, LUX

05-06-2011, 01:39 PM	#8
MassBimmer Major General Drives: E90 LCI 328i xDrive Join Date: May 2009 Location: Milford, MA Posts: 6,824 iTrader: (5) Garage List 2009 BMW [4.50]	I'm lowered on H&R Sport springs (getting Bilstein sports installed on Sunday) and have 18x8.5 ET35 with 12 mm spacers in the rear. However, I have 235/40 tires all around. Your stock wheels are 18x8.5 ET37 in the rear with a 255 tire. I'm thinking you should be able to fit a 10 mm spacer no problem __________________ E90 LCI 328i xDrive: BMW Performance Exhaust / BMW Performance Intake / BMW Performance Steering Wheel / VMR V710 / KW V1

05-13-2011, 09:49 PM	#10
BMW1986 Major Drives: 11 M3 E92 ZCP JB/PS & BLK Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 1,456 iTrader: (7)	That is what I was thinking as well; 10MM in the rear without any issue. How much could I fit in the front? __________________ 11 E92 M3 DCT Jerez Black ZCP...Eisenmann, Dinan, Fabspeed, IND, LUX

05-16-2011, 04:30 PM	#12
BMCoupe_782 Bavarian Fever Drives: 08' e92 328xi TiAg Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Queens, NY / North NJ Posts: 1,112 iTrader: (4)	^^ yep. they're on backorder right now. __________________ \| ESS n52 Tune \| BMW Performance Intake/Exhaust \| LUX H8 v3 AE \| GP Thunder 8500K fogs/corners \| LED: signals/interior \| V1 hardwired \| debadge \| AC pedals \| Performance shift knob/boot \| CF e-brake \| Aero lip \| m3 side skirts/spoiler \| MB kidneys \| Strut brace \| Painted reflectors \| Painted Calipers/Hubs \| 35% 3M tint \| Smoked tails \| CF Roundels \| 19" Miro 942 \| Conti DWS \| H&R Springs for xi \| Bilstein Shocks\| Nxt: Alpine Subs/Amps

05-01-2011, 07:08 PM	#2
4corners Lieutenant Drives: 2008 Jet Black M3 Coupe Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Yucca Valley, CA - Kelowna, BC Posts: 477 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2007 Ford E350 4x4 [2.75] 2008 BMW M3 [0.00]	Use the same size spacers front and rear if you can. You are altering the setup by 10mm overall. 5x2 in front. 10x2 in back. You will be 10mm wider in front, 20mm wider in the rear. You will feel the handling difference.

05-01-2011, 08:31 PM	#4
expelled Private First Class Drives: 2007 335xi Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: LA Posts: 128 iTrader: (1)	I am also curious about this!

05-01-2011, 09:03 PM	#5
4corners Lieutenant Drives: 2008 Jet Black M3 Coupe Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Yucca Valley, CA - Kelowna, BC Posts: 477 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2007 Ford E350 4x4 [2.75] 2008 BMW M3 [0.00]	Search for a thread called, "It's hip to be square". As in a square setup. Some say all you should consider is the overall diameter. But weight and the actual contact patch on the ground matters too. These cars are very balanced front to rear. Why short change the rubber up front?

05-06-2011, 12:43 PM	#7
JayP Private First Class Drives: 335 LCI Xdrive Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Quebec, Canada Posts: 101 iTrader: (0)	I am using 25mm spacers ( that bolts into the hub ) in the back, and none in the front for now. Drives perfectly. Looks much much better. I will be adding 15 or 20mm in the front very soon. Here's a pic if you wanna see... H&R springs + Bilstein shocks.

05-09-2011, 10:43 PM	#9
jackb Captain Drives: E92 335xi, E36 M3 Vert Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Montreal /Plattsburgh,NY Posts: 941 iTrader: (1)	with your wheels and spacers you'd have 18X8 Et24 F and 18x8.5 ET32 Rear that's an easy combo for a sedan even dropped I have a Coupe (less room in the back) lowered with Eibach pro and I run the following Front 18 X 8 ET20 Rear 18 X 9 ET24 with 235/265 tires

05-16-2011, 02:09 PM	#11
joed1 ED RN Drives: 2009 335xi coupe/2011 X3 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: CT Posts: 345 iTrader: (0)	Seems like Bilsteins for the x are not available till June. I searched everywhere.

05-16-2011, 06:53 PM	#13
Patsfan123 First Lieutenant Drives: 2007 328xi Coupe Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Quincy, MA Posts: 324 iTrader: (0)	Don't do 10mm, it needs to be at least 12mm not to interfere with the stock hub. I have a 5mm in the front and I was worried about the vibration, but as far as I can tell, there is none from before spacers. __________________ 2007 328xi Coupe \| TiAg \| Steptronic \| Premium \| Sport \| Nav \| Comfort \| Cold Weather \| Top Speed Exhaust \| BMS PBX \| Euro Airbox w/ K&N \| 18" Apex ARC-8 Hyperblack \| Eibach/Bilstein/TMS Spacers \| LED Interior \| 3000K HID Fogs \| RDash LED License Plate \| GP Thunder AE

05-16-2011, 10:35 PM	#15
e85sbm Snow Wizard Drives: '11 Z4 35iS; '12 MINI JCW Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 336 iTrader: (2)	I know performance is better with this setup, but, how is the ride quality? Crashy over potholes, same as stock? Firmer / more jarring than stock? Comfortable like a Subaru STI...hurts on bumps, but worth every penny because of the perception of sportiness/performance? __________________ '11 BMW Z4 35iS '12 Mini JCW

05-18-2011, 12:17 PM	#18
BMW1986 Major Drives: 11 M3 E92 ZCP JB/PS & BLK Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 1,456 iTrader: (7)	Which spacers do most of us prefer? __________________ 11 E92 M3 DCT Jerez Black ZCP...Eisenmann, Dinan, Fabspeed, IND, LUX

06-18-2011, 05:14 AM	#19
joed1 ED RN Drives: 2009 335xi coupe/2011 X3 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: CT Posts: 345 iTrader: (0)	Anyone hear anything about the Bilsteins yet? I haven't heard anything from Bavarian Autosport as far as a shipping time.

06-26-2011, 10:09 PM	#20
BMCoupe_782 Bavarian Fever Drives: 08' e92 328xi TiAg Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Queens, NY / North NJ Posts: 1,112 iTrader: (4)	My Bilstein sports were just shipped. Going to get them installed along with H&R Sport Springs. __________________ \| ESS n52 Tune \| BMW Performance Intake/Exhaust \| LUX H8 v3 AE \| GP Thunder 8500K fogs/corners \| LED: signals/interior \| V1 hardwired \| debadge \| AC pedals \| Performance shift knob/boot \| CF e-brake \| Aero lip \| m3 side skirts/spoiler \| MB kidneys \| Strut brace \| Painted reflectors \| Painted Calipers/Hubs \| 35% 3M tint \| Smoked tails \| CF Roundels \| 19" Miro 942 \| Conti DWS \| H&R Springs for xi \| Bilstein Shocks\| Nxt: Alpine Subs/Amps

07-10-2011, 06:22 AM	#21
joed1 ED RN Drives: 2009 335xi coupe/2011 X3 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: CT Posts: 345 iTrader: (0)	Everything in, little lower in rear than I anticipated. Slight rubbing on bumps. Otherwise looks great. Will wait for settling to see if anything else needs to be addressed.

07-10-2011, 09:31 PM	#22
BMW1986 Major Drives: 11 M3 E92 ZCP JB/PS & BLK Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 1,456 iTrader: (7)	I have no rubbing on the rear. __________________ 11 E92 M3 DCT Jerez Black ZCP...Eisenmann, Dinan, Fabspeed, IND, LUX

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