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      05-09-2011, 05:26 PM   #1
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Going to Lemon my car. update post #27

Well first things first, my car, 08' 335i coupe, Completely Stock, bought CPO'd @ 32k, right now i am at 39k. Now the problems that were changed through warranty since my ownership of 7k miles :

- 1x changed 6x injectors
- 1x changed 6x spark plugs
- 1x turbocharger
- 1x hpfp
- 1x turbocharger vacuum reservor tank
- 1x audio output, radio / ccc permanent failure
- 1x radiator compensating tank leaking
- 3x hpfp failure
- 3x brake light bulb failure
- 1x rear brake pad wear sensor
- 3x parking lamp bulb failure
- 1x tail light bulb socket incorrect connection
- 1x starter
- 1x decarbonized my valves

So with all these failures from previous owner, and myself, only owning 7k miles currently.. i think i am done and going to contact bmw NA and to pursue them to buy it back.

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      05-09-2011, 05:37 PM   #2
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That's sucks bro... I'm getting rid of mine too..
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      05-09-2011, 05:50 PM   #5
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talked to manager at bmw NA, he will contact me in 1-3 days on what they will do with the vehicle.
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a lot of that stuff sounds like normal maintainance, but good luck!
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      05-09-2011, 06:21 PM   #7
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a lot of that stuff sounds like normal maintainance, but good luck!
possibly but its been in service over 30 days alone. Since ive owned the car its been in service 24 days. and ive had the car since late october and 9k miles.
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i thought you couldn't lemon a car if you weren't the original owner?
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i thought you couldn't lemon a car if you weren't the original owner?
Correct you can't lemon it. Since it is cpo you do have a chance of a buy back. I won't wast time with details, but I have an acquaintance who had a cpo cayenne turbo that was a nightmare for him. After getting lawyers involved Porsche ended up paying.
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      05-09-2011, 06:50 PM   #10
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i thought you couldn't lemon a car if you weren't the original owner?
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Correct you can't lemon it. Since it is cpo you do have a chance of a buy back. I won't wast time with details, but I have an acquaintance who had a cpo cayenne turbo that was a nightmare for him. After getting lawyers involved Porsche ended up paying.
wrong.

http://ag.ca.gov/consumers/general/lemon.php

It still applies.

WHAT IS A NEW MOTOR VEHICLE

The law discussed above applies to "new motor vehicles." (Certain limited protection may apply to used vehicles as described in Section 2.) The term "new motor vehicle" includes not only new motor vehicles but also demonstrators; the chassis, chassis cab, and propulsion system of a new motor home; and any other motor vehicle sold with a manufacturer's new car warranty. For example, a two-year old used car sold with the remaining one year portion of a manufacturer's three-year new car warranty would be treated as a new motor vehicle. The term "new motor vehicle," however, does not include motorcycles or exclusively off-road vehicles.
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      05-09-2011, 07:08 PM   #11
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I agree with having them buy it back, but a couple of those items are not cause for concern...especially spark plugs. If you really think changing plugs makes a car junk you need to buy a bicycle.
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I agree with having them buy it back, but a couple of those items are not cause for concern...especially spark plugs. If you really think changing plugs makes a car junk you need to buy a bicycle.
i know some of these items aren't a concern, but its better to be added to the list. all in all, just seeing what they have to say in the next 1-3 business days. hopefully a good outcome.
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Sounds like all standard maintence (other than HPFP). Try owning a Porsche
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Wow man.
That sucks. Hopefully you won't have issues with whatever comes next.
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wrong.

http://ag.ca.gov/consumers/general/lemon.php

It still applies.

WHAT IS A NEW MOTOR VEHICLE

The law discussed above applies to "new motor vehicles." (Certain limited protection may apply to used vehicles as described in Section 2.) The term "new motor vehicle" includes not only new motor vehicles but also demonstrators; the chassis, chassis cab, and propulsion system of a new motor home; and any other motor vehicle sold with a manufacturer's new car warranty. For example, a two-year old used car sold with the remaining one year portion of a manufacturer's three-year new car warranty would be treated as a new motor vehicle. The term "new motor vehicle," however, does not include motorcycles or exclusively off-road vehicles.
From your link

A special provision, often called the "Lemon Law," helps determine what is a reasonable number of repair attempts for problems that substantially impair the use, value, or safety of the vehicle. The "Lemon Law" applies to these problems if they arise during the first 18 months after the consumer received delivery of the vehicle or within the first 18,000 miles on the odometer, whichever occurs first. During the first 18 months or 18,000 miles, the "Lemon Law" presumes that a manufacturer has had a reasonable number of attempts to repair the vehicle if either (1) The same problem results in a condition that is likely to cause death or serious bodily injury if the vehicle is driven and the problem has been subject to repair two or more times by the manufacturer or its agents, and the buyer or lessee has at least once directly notified the manufacturer of the need for the repair of the problem as provided in the warranty or owner's manual or (2) The same problem has been subject to repair four or more times by the manufacturer or its agents and the buyer has at least once directly notified the manufacturer of the need for the repair of the problem as provided in the warranty or owner's manual or (3) The vehicle is out of service because of the repair of any number of problems by the manufacturer or its agents for a cumulative total of more than 30 days since delivery of the vehicle.

I don't think you qualify for the "lemon law". But I still think you can get something done because it is a cpo, hopefully I am wrong, good luck
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Just PM'd you some info. Good luck with your lemon, Cali laws are the best! you will win for sure--Definitely get a lawyer because BMW will try to fuck you even if they do a buyback they might try to charge you for mileage etc...
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There is definitely a problem with your electrical system and those are not very easy to solve. The multiple HPFP failures are probably because the LPFP and associated sensors may have been defective too and have not been replaced.
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Just PM'd you some info. Good luck with your lemon, Cali laws are the best! you will win for sure--Definitely get a lawyer because BMW will try to fuck you even if they do a buyback they might try to charge you for mileage etc...
thanks for the info. pm'd you back for some more questions.

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There is definitely a problem with your electrical system and those are not very easy to solve. The multiple HPFP failures are probably because the LPFP and associated sensors may have been defective too and have not been replaced.
yeah that is what i am suspecting also. in any case, yes i know the HPFP is common problem, but for me i have all sorts of electrical problem that comes with it.
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There is definitely a problem with your electrical system and those are not very easy to solve. The multiple HPFP failures are probably because the LPFP and associated sensors may have been defective too and have not been replaced.
+1 on the electrical system issues, good luck getting those gremlins...
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a few of them are just small minor things...is everyone clueless when it comes to brake light bulbs failing? That is a common occurance in almost any car. I replaced all 4 in my girls car, big deal. One small trip down to autozone and 10 bucks later problem solved.

BMW will definetly not lemon the car with evidence like that.
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