[rubber_ducky]

planet-9.com is the spot for 987 cars.

[930Man]

rennlist and sixspeed i go to both

[speedfan]

after some readings, I notice a problem with Porsche, a thing called blue smoke once start up. That's pretty sad!!!
Nothing is perfect huh!!!

[stickypaws]

Originally Posted by speedfan

after some readings, I notice a problem with Porsche, a thing called blue smoke once start up. That's pretty sad!!!
Nothing is perfect huh!!!

Do your homework on the flat (Boxer design) motor and you'll understand why it's very common after the car has been sitting for a while.

It's not sad. It's normal.

And no I don't mean the Boxster car, but the Boxer motor (as in named for the way boxers spar off each other....)

[Maseroche]

It doesn't happen to all anyway. Out of the seven Porsches that I've owned, only two smoked a bit, a '02 996 targa and a '03 996 turbo. Current GT3 RS does not smoke at all.

[stickypaws]

Originally Posted by Maseroche

It doesn't happen to all anyway. Out of the seven Porsches that I've owned, only two smoked a bit, a '02 996 targa and a '03 996 turbo. Current GT3 RS does not smoke at all.

I'll guarantee that it will after it sits for a while and then you start it up. Let it sit for a week or more and then have someone else start it up while you're standing behind it.

It's the nature of the design and the the way oils settles. The longer the car sits, the longer it takes to burn out. But there will be a small burn off.

I've owned close to a dozen variants over many, many years and all do it. The real issue is that it's not that noticeable and most owners never see it (plus it occurs primarily after sitting for a few days or weeks when the oil has really settled.) But when they notice it for the first time (when someone else starts the car and the can then see it) they get alarmed about it. It's one of the most common threads on Porsche forums, esp from new owners.

[Maseroche]

Mine has sat for a month or more and it still doesn't smoke. The other two that did smoke make a plume of smoke that sometimes would threaten to envelop the car lol.

[stickypaws]

Originally Posted by Maseroche

Mine has sat for a month or more and it still doesn't smoke. The other two that did smoke make a plume of smoke that sometimes would threaten to envelop the car lol.

A "plume of smoke" that would envelope the car? But you said earlier that they only "smoked a bit."

If you had "plumes" you probably had oil burning off the heat exchangers due to leaks. I'm talking about normal burn off from mild cylinder seepage in all the boxer design motors. Not "plumes of smoke" due to leakage and to gasket problems.

The smoke that comes from sitting (in a healthy Porsche) is very subtle. That's why it often goes unnoticed in the first place. It's oil residue under the pistons due to the flat six design construction. This produces a tiny puff of smoke after sitting. It only lasts a few seconds. An owner will usually never see it or even know it's happening. Oil inside the cylinders will slowly collect at the side of each cylinder (a flat 'boxer' design.) Then it will burn off at start up. It's not the same as blow-by from worn rings and why sometimes people freak out when they first notice it, if they ever do notice it. But once they see it, then it becomes an issue in their minds and hence all the threads on forums with paranoia like somebody here just posted saying "it's sad."

A more accurate test of any real issues would be to check for significant smoke after the car is completely warmed up. And I think we all know that.

Oil usage and Porsches have always been part of P-car ownership, and especially in dry sump versions. It's just the nature of it all.

[XenaBimmer]

I have a Cayman and can definitely say that planet-9 is the best online forum for the Boxster/Cayman cars (987)

+1 for the Cayman as well, mid engine all the way baby!

[930Man]

i used to get it some on the the GT3's after a really hard drive and li to much oil... no biggie and wont hurt a thing