Got a muffler delete...disappointed. Any sport mufflers?

IlChengis · 12-23-2010, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by prelude2perfect

You are driving a forced indution car. You did not loose any power by switching to larger diameter pipes, in fact, you probably gained power if anything but not enough to really even notice.

This.

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Originally Posted by techlogik

You didn't say exactly how "wide" the new pipes were. But anyway, can't be but 3-3.5", either way, that isn't large enough to slow the exhaust gases to lose power. Now if you said 5", then maybe.

No Sir. If noise and heat weren't an issue you could run open snails and get maximum power. Backpressure is needed only on N/A engines. That's why you see those 7 second drag queens running a 6" open pipe straight out of the fender.

-Walter

Marcadelic · 12-23-2010, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by gbreeE90

eisenmann race is far from muffler delete.

exactly, or just go with the esenmann sport, if he wants to tone it down a bit

Forcefed3 · 12-23-2010, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Mdtitans10

exactly, or just go with the esenmann sport, if he wants to tone it down a bit

Yep, if only it wasnt so expensive. I want it!

Marcadelic · 12-23-2010, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by gbreeE90

Yep, if only it wasnt so expensive. I want it!

ya i know, 2k for mufflers...no thanks lol

Xx__xs · 12-23-2010, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by techlogik

You didn't say exactly how "wide" the new pipes were. But anyway, can't be but 3-3.5", either way, that isn't large enough to slow the exhaust gases to lose power. Now if you said 5", then maybe.

Magnaflow has many different single exhaust cans you could try to put on there for like $75 each.

I'm, pretty sure its 2.5 or 3.

Single mufflers? I dont have to put both back on? hmm

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Originally Posted by josh06lau

on a scale of 10 how much louder is a muffler delete compared to stock exhaust? Can a cop pull you over for too much noise with just a muffler delete?

It's about a 30 out of 10. It is ridiculously loud. I scared the crap out of a Camaro 2SS lmao. Several cops made U turns for me but I saw them and just got away before they knew whats going on

Xx__xs · 12-23-2010, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Bakeme521

Pretty sure the loss of power is in your head. There is no difference with or without, in terms of power/torque. Me and a buddy both have stock 335s, me with muffler delete him without. If we race, we are dead even exactly the same. If it's too loud just go and buy some magnaflows and go back to the same exhaust shop and ask them to install them.

I hope its all in my head. It doesnt help that its been raining the past week though. I cant fully compare it. I keep losing traction lol

Xx__xs · 12-23-2010, 01:51 PM

Jesus..I'm looking in the magnaflow website and theres ALL KINDS of sizes, stainless, polished, oval, round, lmao. What kind works well wow

Bakeme521 · 12-23-2010, 06:53 PM

The ones I have are model no: 14336

charlie335 · 12-23-2010, 08:54 PM

i had muffler delete on my car for a while and i compared it with a friend of mine who had the eisenmann race muffler. they sounded very similar, with the muffler delete being about 20% louder. if you're looking for something quieter i wouldn't go with the eisenmann race lol.

and can someone explain to me why you would lose power with the OP's set up? i thought force induced cars actually gain power with less back pressure?

Forcefed3 · 12-23-2010, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Bakeme521

The ones I have are model no: 14336

I thought you had these:
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Anyone know the part number for these mufflers? I think its 14817; but the 14817 doesnt have correct spacing between the muffler and the tip

Bakeme521 · 12-23-2010, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by charlie335

i had muffler delete on my car for a while and i compared it with a friend of mine who had the eisenmann race muffler. they sounded very similar, with the muffler delete being about 20% louder. if you're looking for something quieter i wouldn't go with the eisenmann race lol.

and can someone explain to me why you would lose power with the OP's set up? i thought force induced cars actually gain power with less back pressure?

You're right he didn't lose any power, the rain is making him think differently

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Originally Posted by gbreeE90

I thought you had these:

Nope I have the ones as stated.

Forcefed3 · 12-23-2010, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Bakeme521

Nope I have the ones as stated.

Well yours sounded really good, maybe I will just get those sense I have never heard the others in person.

ScaredOnce · 12-23-2010, 11:11 PM

I dunno if our cars are fast enough to sound that loud...

Forcefed3 · 12-23-2010, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ScaredOnce

I dunno if our cars are fast enough to sound that loud...

If they are modified they are.

Forcefed3 · 12-23-2010, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ScaredOnce

I dunno if our cars are fast enough to sound that loud...

Our cars are faster than 99% of the cars you see with aftermarket exhausts.

STICKY335 · 12-23-2010, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by **335i**

or

buy HPF exhaust

What he said ^_^ ahahahah

MisterSkiMask · 12-24-2010, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by gbreeE90

Our cars are faster than 99% of the cars you see with aftermarket exhausts.

That is because 98% of the cars you see with aftermarket exhaust are piles of sh*t

turb0mik3 · 12-24-2010, 02:26 AM

Go with something quiet under normal conditions but screams up top, trust me. Cops won't be looking for you and when they aren't around you can have a little fun!

Xx__xs · 12-24-2010, 05:17 AM

Im probably gonna end up getting two of these

http://www.performancepeddler.com/de...CT_ID=MAG14219

But Im not sure :|

I already have tips so Im just gonna get mufflers.

But theres so many types im going crazy.

Forcefed3 · 12-24-2010, 08:23 AM

[QUOTE=MisterSkiMask;8556901]

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Originally Posted by gbreeE90

Our cars are faster than 99% of the cars you see with aftermarket exhausts.

That is because 98% of the cars you see with aftermarket exhaust are piles of sh*t[/QUOTE
You speak the truth.

cn555ic · 12-24-2010, 08:34 AM

What you are describing as loud is probably the immense RASP sound that you get when you eliminate the mufflers...I went catless and my exhaust was loud as hell also and the rasp added to the loudness....As for loss of power its really all in your head because there is NO WAY on a FI this would occur....With a N/A there will probably be some loss as the exhaust needs some backpressure...I am 100% sure you attribute the loudness of the exhaust which is the RASP or farting CIVIC sound coming from your exhaust when you floor it...I dealt with this shit and couldnt stand it so I tuned my exhaust with some resonators, but I am not sure resonators in your case will work since you deleted the mufflers....Just go out and either weld back on the mufflers or go get a cat back with resonators built into the midpipes...

Forcefed3 · 12-24-2010, 09:44 AM

I found mangaflow part number 12866, anyone use this?

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charlie335 Shiodome Redeveloper 22 Rep 762 Posts Drives: lawllercoaster Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Richmond, BC iTrader: (1)	i had muffler delete on my car for a while and i compared it with a friend of mine who had the eisenmann race muffler. they sounded very similar, with the muffler delete being about 20% louder. if you're looking for something quieter i wouldn't go with the eisenmann race lol. and can someone explain to me why you would lose power with the OP's set up? i thought force induced cars actually gain power with less back pressure? __________________ 2006 E63 M6, Alpine White/Indianapolis Red 2007 E92 335i, Space Gray, 6MT, ZSP, BMW Performance Shifter/Boot, CF Wrapped Trim, Aero Lip, M3 Sideskirts, Mtech Rear, CF Diffuser, Custom Quads, FK Silverline X, iForged Essen 2008 GSX-R750, Blue/White, Power Commander, Straight Pipe 2011 BMW S1000RR, Akrapovic Evolution
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Xx__xs Major 202 Rep 1,255 Posts Drives: m6 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: los angeles iTrader: (1)	Im probably gonna end up getting two of these http://www.performancepeddler.com/de...CT_ID=MAG14219 But Im not sure :\| I already have tips so Im just gonna get mufflers. But theres so many types im going crazy.
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12-24-2010, 08:34 AM	#43
cn555ic 442 Rep 18,331 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: US iTrader: (6)	What you are describing as loud is probably the immense RASP sound that you get when you eliminate the mufflers...I went catless and my exhaust was loud as hell also and the rasp added to the loudness....As for loss of power its really all in your head because there is NO WAY on a FI this would occur....With a N/A there will probably be some loss as the exhaust needs some backpressure...I am 100% sure you attribute the loudness of the exhaust which is the RASP or farting CIVIC sound coming from your exhaust when you floor it...I dealt with this shit and couldnt stand it so I tuned my exhaust with some resonators, but I am not sure resonators in your case will work since you deleted the mufflers....Just go out and either weld back on the mufflers or go get a cat back with resonators built into the midpipes...
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Forcefed3 Banned 127 Rep 4,732 Posts Drives: 2008 335i Join Date: May 2010 Location: South iTrader: (2) Garage List 2008 335i [1.00]	I found mangaflow part number 12866, anyone use this?
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