[lawdude]

Originally Posted by Septro

You still yappin or spell checking an actual response on the merits? Your quips are as empty as the suit you wear in court.

Meh, some people talk a good ass beating while others deliver. If it's all the same to you septro, I'll stick with my wife's. She not only delivers, she makes me sit up and beg for buttermilk.

[Septro]

Originally Posted by jpsimon

What are you talking about? They serve completely different functions! apples to baboons

I could switch maps with my gas pedal on my wrx 5 years ago.

And this is the first integration with the dash and a tune?? Audi map switching with the wiper stalk comes to memory.

The distinction if another vendor does it on the N54, history is not relevant and it is copying. I'm cool with calling it out if it happens - but perspective helps.

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by Railgun

Back to the topic at hand...

Shiv...

Granted you're going for the option of a "boost gauge" for the masses, if you just happen to also have an option of something for the iDrive screen, I'm sure those that do have it won't mind.

Honestly, i think iDrive display is going to be much more difficult to implement. Not saying it wont happen. But there are many more things that we would want to introduce first. It's not as straight-forward and CANbus integration.

Shiv

[jpsimon]

the original point is: Terry has bashed new features in the past then gone and implemented them (or tried to). That was lawdudes point.

Originally Posted by Septro

And this is the first integration with the dash and a tune?? Audi map switching with the wiper stalk comes to memory.

The distinction if another vendor does it on the N54, history is not relevant and it is copying. I'm cool with calling it out if it happens - but perspective helps.

but enough of this in here, anyone in this discussion is just wasting time until dinner is ready

[Septro]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Honestly, i think iDrive display is going to be much more difficult to implement. Not saying it wont happen. But there are many more things that we would want to introduce first. It's not as straight-forward and CANbus integration.

Shiv

Back on the topic -

If not the main display, what about the bottom ribbon bar that provides some environmentals/phone info?

When there is an alert, that display is co-opted to present the current alert data. Maybe the integration for that wouldn't be as difficult to develop?

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by runningman

To get the thread on topic deleting codes without reading them is pretty scary stuff. Especially if there is an actual problem. Once this can also read codes it will be very impressive and save people from having to buy a $300 scanner.

Reading codes is only days or, in worst case, weeks away. When ready, users will only need to update their firmware to get this feature. We already have access to all the CANbus information. Even developed some custom software to analyze/decode it easily. All we need to do is sort through and find out what does what. While not a big technical challenge for us at this point, it does take a bit of time.

I don't think code clearing with out reading is an issue at all. 95% of the time, there are no visible codes. So all you will be doing is potentially erasing the hidden tuner detection code which is a-okay in my book. That's the idea behind this feature. To simply clear your tracks while being able to use the best tune possible. This means we can finally get aggressive with low end boost as well as run the AFRs that we want to run but couldn't due to the tuner detection trip points.

The code reading feature will simply make the PROcede a simple diagnostic/logging tool. Which, of course, is nice as well. But that doesn't mean the first release is anything less than useful.

Cheers,
Shiv

[cn555ic]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Reading codes is only days or, in worst case, weeks away. When ready, users will only need to update their firmware to get this feature. We already have access to all the CANbus information. Even developed some custom software to analyze/decode it easily. All we need to do is sort through and find out what does what. While not a big technical challenge for us at this point, it does take a bit of time.

I don't think code clearing with out reading is an issue at all. 95% of the time, there are no visible codes. So all you will be doing is potentially erasing the hidden tuner detection code which is a-okay in my book. That's the idea behind this feature. To simply clear your tracks while being able to use the best tune possible. This means we can finally get aggressive with low end boost as well as run the AFRs that we want to run but couldn't due to the tuner detection trip points.

The code reading feature will simply make the PROcede a simple diagnostic/logging tool. Which, of course, is nice as well. But that doesn't mean the first release is anything less than useful.

Cheers,
Shiv

Its basically giving people that want to run their cars to or close to maximum performance without worrying about triggering warranty codes because its a quick fix for them to erase them prior to a visit to the dealership!

[RiXst3r]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

This means we can finally get aggressive with low end boost as well as run the AFRs that we want to run but couldn't due to the tuner detection trip points.
Cheers,
Shiv

Get crackin' on those agressive low end boost maps!!!

[cn555ic]

Originally Posted by RiXst3r

Get crackin' on those agressive low end boost maps!!!

thats what I am talking about...now he can concentrate on one map for everyone and make it the most potent with safety regards ofcourse!

[normtrum]

Very good stuff. Stupid question of the day: IF the 335 had a heads up display like the M5 & 6, would a digital numeric boost display be possible?

This has no merit to this thread whatsoever......it's more of a curiousity thing from me.

P.S. Long live Lawdude.

[Ilma]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

This means we can finally get aggressive with low end boost as well as run the AFRs that we want to run but couldn't due to the tuner detection trip points.

Cheers,
Shiv

Ummmm, I beg to differ here.

The low end on the Procede ALREADY feels aggressive.

You must mean.....more aggresive.

[Sparky66]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Honestly, i think iDrive display is going to be much more difficult to implement. It's not as straight-forward and CANbus integration.

Shiv

How so???

I always see messages displayed on the bottom of the iDrive screen and the dash's gauge cluster simultaneously............low fuel warning, tpms tire warning, engine check OK, oil level OK, service reminder screen etc...

I'm sure the DME openly communicates and fully integrates to display vital information between the gauge cluster screen and the iDrive display via one of the BUS lines. As you state it may not be straight forward but I think it's definitely possible.

[RiXst3r]

Originally Posted by Sparky66

How so???

I always see messages displayed on the bottom of the iDrive screen and the dash's gauge cluster simultaneously............low fuel warning, tpms tire warning, engine check OK, oil level OK, service reminder screen etc...

I'm sure the DME openly communicates and fully integrates to display vital information between the gauge cluster screen and the iDrive display via one of the BUS lines. As you state it may not be straight forward but I think it's definitely possible.

PROcede is on the PT-CAN... luckily this is the can with all the nifty engine data flowing on it.

Here is a neat diagram showing all the busses in the e90/e92 and how they interconnect. You can see how it might be difficult to talk to a module that isnt directly connected to the bus that the PROcede is on, because it will require it to be passed/translated through other modules like where the iDrive modules are. Not impossible, just saying that its not as easy as sending a command directly to it.

[tke344]

I don't believe the subject has even been brought up since it isn't engine related... but would it be possible to implement a software TPMS simulator to keep the dash light off in conditions where the sensor isn't present?

[psu139]

Originally Posted by tke344

I don't believe the subject has even been brought up since it isn't engine related... but would it be possible to implement a software TPMS simulator to keep the dash light off in conditions where the sensor isn't present?

no doubt! that would save plenty of people $.

[Septro]

Holy sticky! That is some hot information Rixster.

[.:bHd:.]

Would it be possible to have the small screen between the speedo and the tacho meters be the boost gauge?

That would be insane

[jpsimon]

Originally Posted by .:bHd:.

Would it be possible to have the small screen between the speedo and the tacho meters be the boost gauge?

That would be insane

that's what he's gonna do

[.:bHd:.]

Originally Posted by jpsimon

that's what he's gonna do

wow that's awesome can't wait to see how it works. Most likely will buy it

[jeho]

just get it now..there are many many other great reasons to get it!!

you dont want to be part of the waiting list since its possible once the v3.3 gets released with these
new features, theres gonna be quite a few ppl switching tunes or just buying their 1st tune and u end on up the waiting list haha

[SteveMD]

Keep in mind there are now TWO iDrives. The one in the 06-08 cars and a completely different one in the 09s.

The hardware and software are completely different on both.

[samurai1200]

Originally Posted by SteveMD

Keep in mind there are now TWO iDrives. The one in the 06-08 cars and a completely different one in the 09s.

The hardware and software are completely different on both.

good point! while the n54 and CAN communication have stayed the same (necessarily), other stuff (09 idrive, etc) may have/has changed. i'm going to take a wild guess and say that there are different software versions of the idrive, even among the same model-year.

i think that integration with the LCD in the cluster would be enough bad-assery for anyone's good. and if they can already do it, i dont think its worth the necessary R&D to get it on the big LCD. i mean, its not like BMW intra-comm is an open standard... they are basically reverse engineering everything every step of the way...