[NFS13]

Originally Posted by Anonymous335

NFS, you get the FREE AIR/OIL COOLER with NO WAIVER?

Yeah, and I scanned it into my computer and trying to figure out how to scale it down so I can upload it here.

[NFS13]

Originally Posted by Anonymous335

NFS, you get the FREE AIR/OIL COOLER with NO WAIVER?

Here is the invoice. Pics will have to come when I get home over the weekend. Actually I am going to the PA meet this Sunday, they can all take a look and vouch for me.

[BzzzBom]

Getting a step / ZSP car without the oil cooler is the same as BMW excluding the sports seats or suspension. They all were supposed to come with the car according to BMW. The oil cooler is part of the sports package.

[AHY]

Originally Posted by Anonymous335

So if you bought a twin turbo version of the Ultimate Driving Machine, and then you paid another two or three grand for a sport package

Sport package was $1k. You will not get the oil cooler unless you included that package and thats the bottom line...

btw, my car is done w/the retrofit today...and I didn't sign the waiver.

[jbake]

got my retrofit done this week...my car hasnt gotten above 240 without and still goes up to 240 with it...i'll have to really run it hard with the 90 degree heat this week to see if anything else changed

[NFS13]

Originally Posted by jbake

got my retrofit done this week...my car hasnt gotten above 240 without and still goes up to 240 with it...i'll have to really run it hard with the 90 degree heat this week to see if anything else changed

I drove 40 miles after picking it up from the service dept, driving it very hard for about 7 miles over one of my favorite back roads where I have seen temps as high as 280 in the past. It hit 245 - 250 and pretty much stuck there until I returned to normal driving.

[PMP]

dupe

[PMP]

Originally Posted by Anonymous335

nothing like a twin turbo steptronic sport 335



A mercedes owner would think that, but unlike Mercedes, we run our cars on the track. Ever hear of BMWCCA, NASA, Speed Trials USA, Porsche Club, SCCA, Speed Ventures, etc. etc.? Don't see many MBs out there...

Ever hear of Formula 1? Who's winning the Constructors' Championship this season? Did they cancel the DTM Series? How is BMW doing in the ALMS GT2 series? Every manufacturer has its series. My partner and I are investors in an ALMS GT2 team (911 GT3 RSR) and BMW doesn't race in that series. Does that mean that BMW doesn't like to race? Is the fact that they pulled their sponsorship make them turkeys or does it mean they focus elsewhere? Do YOU race your 335i with twin turbo, automatic and paddle shifters on a racing circuit? Come clean - you called me out now I'm calling you out. What circuit do you race in and what are your results. If you don't race then shut up about racing. Don't be a poser.



So if you bought a twin turbo version of the Ultimate Driving Machine, and then you paid another two or three grand for a sport package that increases the top speed limiter and you get paddle shifters with better suspension and wheels/tires more capable of higher speeds, why would you not want the cooling system to be adequate? Might as well get a C-class MB if you want to be slow...

Since BMW has already agreed to retro-fit 335i cars with the sports option - what is your beef?

Stick to driving Miss Daisy in your C-class MB.

You are seriously freaking me out, man! I can't believe you just called my old AMG C32 a granny car! That is hilarious! 350hp and 332 lb-ft is just a bit more than what your 335 can do, my friend. It was, and might still be, the fastest production Mercedes ever made. The 335i, at 5.3 seconds 0-60 is pretty amazing. However, the C32 uncorked 4.5 all day long. The M3 was clocked at about 4.8. It's basic physics. Either way, I sold it and now own a BMW, so what is the fuss? The truth is that I never really drove my AMG that hard and I didn't want to pay that much again for a car I didn't need. Once you've won a few light-to-light world championships against mini-vans and city buses you just feel like retiring to spend your winnings, I guess.

I'm also a little confused as to why you paid two or three grand for your sports package. You got seriously ripped - I paid about a grand. Ouch. That has to hurt.

At the end of the day, if you paid for the sports package and BMW is refusing to give you something they are giving everyone else I can understand your frustration. But, you are not saying that ... you are just grabbing stuff from other posts and getting all redfaced because you don't like what you read. Oh, well.

For what it is worth, I called a friend today at a local dealer and he said that BMW is retro-fitting 335i cars with the sports package if they want the oil cooler. If you didn't get the sports option you are out of luck.

[335I talian Stallion NJ]

Has anyone else had to sign the waiver? I'm scared to sign this thing... I feel like I'm giving away my warranty? Is the oil cooler and its install under the warranty??

[PMP]

I'm always suspicious of people who have to use insults to make their point.

[BzzzBom]

Originally Posted by Anonymous335

Wannabe PiMP,

Let me address your concerns. First, did you see me complain after BMW decided to do the right thing and equip the steptronic sports 335s with an oil cooler? The answer is no. Second, you assumed too much. You assumed that people without the sports package are the only people who want an oil cooler. It is not good to assume. Third, you assumed I have never been on the track. Again, not good to assume. Fourth, no one here respects your mercedes, so get over it. I have been racing for over 15 years, all kinds of racing, so get over that. I don't need to put money into a team to get an oil cooler for a car that should have come with it to begin with.

And anyway, Mr. Mercedes AMG, why do you care about this thread? You just wanna flap your gums about stuff you know nothing about...

PATHETIC!

For fun, let's take a quiz regarding the person who posted this comment:

1. Age

a. Younger than 15
b. 15-20

2. Education

a. High school dropout
b. Never attended high school

3. IQ

a. 50-75
b. 76-85

4. Self esteem

a. Low
b. Non existent

5. Street races his car because

a. It is cool
b. It is sweet

6. Favorite movie

a. Jack Ass 1
b. Jack Ass 2

7. Should be banned from this forum

a. Absolutely
b. Yes
c. All of the above

[bobnaz]

Originally Posted by BzzzBom

For fun, let's take a quiz regarding the person who posted this comment:

1. Age

a. Younger than 15
b. 15-20

2. Education

a. High school dropout
b. Never attended high school

3. IQ

a. 50-75
b. 76-85

4. Self esteem

a. Low
b. Non existent

5. Street races his car because

a. It is cool
b. It is sweet

6. Favorite movie

a. Jack Ass 1
b. Jack Ass 2

7. Should be banned from this forum

a. Absolutely
b. Yes
c. All of the above

I'll take 5&6B

[bobnaz]

Originally Posted by Socratesbmw

That's because its normal. All this talk about how it was supposed to have the cooler is crap. Your car wasn't supposed to come with it and they left it off, its just becoming an "issue" (mainly because of forums like these). What are y'all going to complain about when they put in the recall for the oil temp gauge? 300 will be the new mid-point - what then?

how many of you on here have ever had your 335 overheat? Honestly, we all know of two cars provided by competitors that were tracked hard and they went into limp mode - as they are supposed to. Nothing happened to the cars that harmed them or the engine. I have yet to encounter anyone who has actually had this happen to them. Sure, tracking a car in 5th gear at 7K rpm's for 40 minutes will probably get you there, but that's not what the car is built for.

Your comments about the car supposed to be a track vehicle is the same as saying that every Chevy Monete Carlo should be able to run in Nascar stock. I constantly run at 240-250 around town with normal driving and know plenty of people who say they've never gotten about 270 under hard conditions. Hell, most of you on here talking about the issue don't even own the damn car!

For the most part I agree except my M3 and 330 were tracked and never went into limp mode

[scottwww]

Say that you configured your 335i. You selected SPP, etc. and at the last minute, decided to spend more money and get the automatic transmission. Do they explain with your paying more money for that, you are also not going to get the air oil cooler? I don't think so. It is reasonable to expect to get the 2nd cooler if you paid for SPP whether you went with the cheaper MT or splurged on the AT.

[PMP]

Originally Posted by Anonymous335

For those of you who are trying to make this thread about me, keep trying to guess and assume, your joint effort is pathetic.

You made it about you when you started attacking other posters. Next time you might consider just sticking to the topic rather than getting bent when others write something with which you don't agree.

[bobnaz]

Originally Posted by scottwww

Say that you configured your 335i. You selected SPP, etc. and at the last minute, decided to spend more money and get the automatic transmission. Do they explain with your paying more money for that, you are also not going to get the air oil cooler? I don't think so. It is reasonable to expect to get the 2nd cooler if you paid for SPP whether you went with the cheaper MT or splurged on the AT.

No doubt...when you track your care it shouldn't go into limp mode.

[island111]

I had my oil to air cooler replaced today. It took the dealer 7 hours and they did a perfect job kept me in the loop all dy on the status. This was the first one thry did . The only thing I noticed so far is the oil temp runs about 15 degrees cooler on the same ride home that I always do. 88 degrees out side running in traffic oil temp was a steady 235 vs 250-255.

[BzzzBom]

I noticed the same temp drop - That is a good thing

[Spazdoc]

Originally Posted by island111

88 degrees out side running in traffic oil temp was a steady 235 vs 250-255.

Although I have faith in BMW, I thought of a sneaky and funny thing a bad company could do. Instead of an oil cooler, they just shift the needle to read 30 degrees cooler than actual temps....

[island111]

Just in case anyone is interested the cooler retro-fit it was a ton of work from what I could see. You have to remove the front bumper cover and radiator. I will give the BMW teck Kudo's he did a great job and was VERY neat. The dealer was first class on this repair.
TATE in Annapolis if anyone wants to know. The service rep was Caroline Spencer. She stayed on top of the repair all the way and kept me in the loop. I guess she knows us BMW owners are a strange group.

[PMP]

Originally Posted by Anonymous335

Wrong. This is an E90 Forum. You don't own one.

Err ... think again, chum.

[Tech@BMWSF]

Originally Posted by jbake

Well I got a call today out of nowhere from some guy named Keith. He is contacting my stealership and calling me tomorrow to get the oil cooler retrofit problem fixed! After about 10 emails, 5 calls and lots of frustration BMW is finally coming through. I was doubting them for a while and pretty ticked off.

Just keep at it guys and you WILL get your oil cooler! I think by mentioning that I have owned 3 other BMW's and very loyal to BMW worked in my favor. maybe you guys can get that across as well, it may help.

So why are you soooo concerned about a damn oil cooler? All it dose is add an extra liter of oil to your system which will never be changed cause it sits at the level of your oil pan with the tubes going to your oil filter housing, and only opens when your oil temp gets extemely hot? If you live in arizona i can understand. But i keep installing these oil coolers in 335's here in SF where they never see the freeway and the flow across the cooler is minimal. I mean the air intake is the same size as the brake cooler duct. If you were bitching about the HPP (long cranking time, poor idle and running like shit) I could understand. But It's an OIL COOLER. It cools oil. And BMWNA is only putting it on your cars make you feel better about your HPP.