[135Pats]

5862 at 22-24PSI and you'll have a FAST car

[3000GT MR]

Originally Posted by robc1976

What do you think of the FFtech top mount kit? It has the "newer" designed precision turbo that supposedly spools faster than last gen according to fftech. I was thinking 6266

I'd like to see both kits back to back on the same turbo. There really isn't much info on either although I know there are several fftec TM kits out there. I doubt you'd see anything justifying the price difference plus the fftec kit doesn't bolt up to the factory exhaust like the VM so add that to the price also. However you cannot beat the quality of the fftec kit. Pick your poison.

[robc1976]

Originally Posted by 135Pats

5862 at 22-24PSI and you'll have a FAST car

I am a bit crazy, I want more than 600hp if I am going single, getting axles, upgraded tranny and wide body kit (for wider meat, 315 or 335 RE-11).

[135Pats]

I hear ya - just not sure it's actually going to be appreciably faster with the powerband we are talking about. I'm sure AK335s dynos are around here somewhere if you want to see how the 64mm spools on the autos.

Either way it was about time you went single man! Looking forward to the build log.

[robc1976]

Originally Posted by 135Pats

I hear ya - just not sure it's actually going to be appreciably faster with the powerband we are talking about. I'm sure AK335s dynos are around here somewhere if you want to see how the 64mm spools on the autos.

Either way it was about time you went single man! Looking forward to the build log.

I agree, 6466 is to much, going with a 6266. It is about time!

[jayzF30]

It is those long tube style runner manifold designs creating lag with these turbos not the turbos themselves guys. This is why PTF in my books is the only kit designed properly to flow match with this motor and power targets given their turbo choices.

[nvn]

Rob did you ever dyno with your rbs? I imagine you were close to 550 with your aggressive setup. For me it would be a tough decision to spend all this money for the gains that might be limited with the AT trans. If money is no option, I'd consider a dct upgrade w/ clutch packs and upgraded software. I know that's quite a lot of money to drop though that could go towards an M3.

[Bme30]

Here is a good comparison of the turbos on a supra. Hope this helps.http://m.honda-tech.com/showthread.p...214&styleid=18

[pwilde]

Originally Posted by shmorgan77

No way to fit a 295 on a 1er. I have 265 pss and might be able to get away with a 275 but that's pushing it. Rolled fenders of course

Yeah I didn't realize this till way after I said it and his profile even says e90. I had a rewy smaut moment

[shmorgan77]

Originally Posted by Bme30

Here is a good comparison of the turbos on a supra. Hope this helps.http://m.honda-tech.com/showthread.p...214&styleid=18

900whp at redline but like 285 tq at redline??? Mhhhmmm

[shmorgan77]

Originally Posted by pwilde

Yeah I didn't realize this till way after I said it and his profile even says e90. I had a rewy smaut moment

Lolol

[Bme30]

I believe one of the cars is a Honda. This is from a Honda forum lol

[Stucks]

Originally Posted by Bme30

I believe one of the cars is a Honda. This is from a Honda forum lol

lol that would make sense.

6466 ftw in that comparision. Not too different spooling to the 6266, but makes more power on top.

[135Pats]

Those plots are K20s I think, could certainly be wrong. Either way they aren't as efficient as an N54 so i'm not sure how fair a comparison it is.

It does show the relatively useless place that the 6266 occupies. IMO if you are going precision, either go with a 5862 for spool and 550-600WHP, or a 6466 for 750+WHP if you really want to go ham status.

Isn't there a New Jersey car running around with a 6262? @Blaizon? Interested to see how that spools.

[robc1976]

Originally Posted by 135Pats

Those plots are K20s I think, could certainly be wrong. EI believe ther way they aren't as effcient as an N54 so i'm not sure how fair a comparison it is.

It does show the relatively useless place that the 6266 occupies. IMO if you are going precision, either go with a 5862 for spool and 550-600WHP, or a 6466 for 750+WHP if you really want to go ham status.

Isn't there a New Jersey car running around with a 6262? @Blaizon? Interested to see how that spools.

So basically the 6266 doesn't spool any faster than a 6466 and makes less power. Are these stats with the new Gen 2? I know the older 6466 was very laggy up to 3500+ RPMs and the new Gen 2 precision is a whole different story.

[135Pats]

Originally Posted by robc1976

So basically the 6266 doesn't spool any faster than a 6466 and makes less power. Are these stats with the new Gen 2? I know the older 6466 was very laggy up to 3500+ RPMs and the new Gen 2 precision is a whole different story.

Based on spool that looks like the gen 2. All in all I don't think a 6466 is a great fit for this car, at least not as folks are using it (as a 600ish WHP turbo). Now if your goal is well over 700, then for sure that's the way to go.

But yea there's really no reason for a 6266. I'm interested to see how a 6262 spools up. Going off of what you've gotten used to (aggressively tuned, octane fed stock frame hybrids pushing well north of 500WTQ off idle), any single is going to be a complete 180 spool wise. Just prepare yourself for that, especially if you go full retard with the 64mm. But once you get north of 5K RPMs it's goodnight

[robc1976]

Originally Posted by 135Pats

Based on spool that looks like the gen 2. All in all I doErick I don'tn't think a 6466 is a great fit for this car, at least not as folks are using it (as a 600ish WHP turbo). Now if your goal is well over 700, then for sure that's the way to go.

But yea there's really no reason for a 6266. I'm interested to see how a 6262 spools up. Going off of what you've gotten used to (aggressively tuned, octane fed stock frame hybrids pushing well north of 500WTQ off idle), any single is going to be a complete 180 spool wise. Just prepare yourself for that, especially if you go full retard with the 64mm. But once you get north of 5K RPMs it's goodnight

See, I don't want that....I think the the gen 2 6262 (if the make a gen 2 6262) wich I don't believe they do would spool pretty quickly, Mike a fftech said the 6266 spools pretty quickly.

[robc1976]

Originally Posted by 135Pats

Based on spool that looks like the gen 2. All in all I don't think a 6466 is a great fit for this car, at least not as folks are using it (as a 600ish WHP turbo). Now if your goal is well over 700, then for sure that's the way to go.

But yea there's really no reason for a 6266. I'm interested to see how a 6262 spools up. Going off of what you've gotten used to (aggressively tuned, octane fed stock frame hybrids pushing well north of 500WTQ off idle), any single is going to be a complete 180 spool wise. Just prepare yourself for that, especially if you go full retard with the 64mm. But once you get north of 5K RPMs it's goodnight

Almost seems like a single is not worth it, you get a 5858 and you get 585 (not that much more than RB's) or a 5862 for a tad more than RB's but your spend 2x as much and spool is slower or you get a 62 or 64MM and have a laggy car that a 323i could beat you up to 5000 rpms and after that you gain so much power your tranny slips and causes problems? I don't see the appeal here? Think I will stick with RB's and beat singles up to 5000 rpms lol!

[Stucks]

Originally Posted by robc1976

Almost seems like a single is not worth it, you get a 5858 and you get 585 (not that much more than RB's) or a 5862 for a tad more than RB's but your spend 2x as much and spool is slower or you get a 62 or 64MM and have a laggy car that a 323i could beat you up to 5000 rpms and after that you gain so much power your tranny slips and causes problems? I don't see the appeal here? Think I will stick with RB's and beat singles up to 5000 rpms lol!

lol!!!!

for roll racing the single would be better in every way.....dig racing a single with the 6at though seems like begging for trouble lol.

[robc1976]

Originally Posted by Stucks

lol!!!!

for roll racing the single would be better in every way....I mean dig racing a single with the 6at though seems like begging for trouble lol.

Waiting up to 5000 rpms is crazy! I do a lot of 40 roll racing, I don't launch on street. When your in 3rd at under 3000 rpms and have to wait until 5000 rpms? I would be 3-4 cars ahead and unless racing up to very high speeds I can't see a single be that much better. On the other hand I have seen vids of singles (64MM) beating bikes so they can't have that much lag or very little.

[Jeff@TopGearSolutions]

Originally Posted by robc1976

Waiting up to 5000 rpms is crazy! I do a lot of 40 roll racing, I don't launch on street. When your in 3rd at under 3000 rpms and have to wait until 5000 rpms? I would be 3-4 cars ahead and unless racing up to very high speeds I can't see a single be that much better. On the other hand I have seen vids of singles (64MM) beating bikes so they can't have that much lag or very little.

Who races from a roll starting at 3000RPM? Unless you have a diesel?
If you are worried about lag and roll racing just brake boost.

[Bme30]

A 6466 makes "stock like" power around 2600 rpm.