[mo335i]

Looking for some opinons on these mods and which one you would pick or additional suggestions. I have a 2007 335i Sedan Sport AT and I am not sure which direction to go. My local shop says Turner but price is pretty attractive on the JB4 and has some cool options. I am looking for long term relability and improved driving performance. Car will be out of warranty in 2 months but will still have be under the maintence agreement. Thanks inadvance for your input.

[MDORPHN]

Originally Posted by mo335i

Looking for some opinons on these mods and which one you would pick or additional suggestions. I have a 2007 335i Sedan Sport AT and I am not sure which direction to go. My local shop says Turner but price is pretty attractive on the JB4 and has some cool options. I am looking for long term relability and improved driving performance. Car will be out of warranty in 2 months but will still have be under the maintence agreement. Thanks inadvance for your input.

Right question is Procede V5 or Cobb AccessPort.

Neil

[Bagelfast]

JB4... /thread

[Mike@N54Tuning.com]

Originally Posted by mo335i

Looking for some opinons on these mods and which one you would pick or additional suggestions. I have a 2007 335i Sedan Sport AT and I am not sure which direction to go. My local shop says Turner but price is pretty attractive on the JB4 and has some cool options. I am looking for long term relability and improved driving performance. Car will be out of warranty in 2 months but will still have be under the maintence agreement. Thanks inadvance for your input.

Try the JB4 as it comes with a 14-day money back guarantee and its on intro promo so its a can't loose. I guarantee you will love the feel of a tuned car and never want to go back to stock

Mike

[mo335i]

Not much love so far for Turner Motorsports. The only reason I am not jumping at the JB4 is my local shop says flashing the ECU is a better option and more reliable in the long run with less risk. Turner seems like a great company and more affordable than the Dinan Stage 2.

[bigdog34uz]

I just installed the JB4 in my 2007 335i e90 at. The car feels great!

[UltraRacer13]

dude- shiv is right. If you want to go flash, you have to look at Cobb- you can unflash it yourself, you can resell it (turner can't) and it is a great safe tune. But you should also look at the Procede. Great tune with tons of abilities.

[EDM92]

Your options should be Procede or COBB.

[mo335i]

Does the COBB software work on 2007 models? Website only showed 2008

[scott135i]

Originally Posted by mo335i

Does the COBB software work on 2007 models? Website only showed 2008

As of right now, Cobb only has 2008+ support, but 2007 support should be coming in the near future (hopefully - for those w/ 2007s)

[Proper Motion LLC]

Jb4 no doubt

[lightning20]

Originally Posted by Mike@N54Tuning.com

Try the JB4 as it comes with a 14-day money back guarantee and its on intro promo so its a can't loose. I guarantee you will love the feel of a tuned car and never want to go back to stock

Mike

mike how long does it take to receive the jb4 once it's ordered?

[Clap135]

Cobb or Procede should be your choice, being that your a 2007, if you don't feel like waiting for 07 support, procede 100 percent. I would rule out the jb4 due to no timing control.

[Elie335]

I'd suggest the JB4

[enrita]

You need to be able to control timings so either Procede or Cobb.

[Gunzaro]

I did much research about which tune to go for. This is my opinion...

Look at it this way...do you want to deal with the hassle of removing parts in the engine bay to get to the ECU then fiddle with connectors etc to install a piggyback? (Have a look at the thread where people have said what OEM parts they broke - quite a few of the responses are due to installing a piggyback). Or would you prefer to tune cars via email, plugging a device into the OBDII socket?

Or perhaps you like the flexibility of use methanol injectors?

OR want custom tuning but don't want to pay extra?

OR maybe you want traction control / more options?

These are the questions you need to ask yourself.

I was very skeptical over a handheld flash tune as they are new to the N54 and I have only experienced piggybacks. But...

I eventually decide to go with a ESS Directflash tune. It is AWESOME. I cannot emphasise this enough.

After they email you back the Stage 1 & 2 files inclusive of the price and you put them on the device it is a 15 min installation whilst you polish your car. The horsepower of Stage 2 with 93 octane is impressive - equal to any piggyback or other flash tune out there. 370 RWHP for stage 2. The smoothness is unbelievable. Around town it is very driveable. I had no engine codes after a BT scan before and after. Device was able to download/upload with no issues - ECU was recognised.

With the ESS flash they use the factory BMW programming, work with it and enhance it. This is why it works 100%, it is a COMPLETE solution for my needs and why I personally like it.

The thing about ESS vs other flashes - they only tune BMW and have done for over 15 years. I appreciate their experience.

[sti917]

Originally Posted by Clap135

Cobb or Procede should be your choice, being that your a 2007, if you don't feel like waiting for 07 support, procede 100 percent. I would rule out the jb4 due to no timing control.

here you go again!!!

[sti917]

Originally Posted by enrita

You need to be able to control timings so either Procede or Cobb.

he needs to be able to control timings??







































































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[rmdvrs]

Originally Posted by mo335i

Shiv, thanks for the advice. You helped me confirm my thoughts about the JB4. I have spoken to all the suppliers directly except COBB and Vishnu which I plan to do Monday. I was skeptical on Turner only for the fact I really could not find anyone running it. My local shop highly recommended them and I do trust them but I am eager to find out more about Proceed and COBB. Hoping to pull the trigger soon as I have been researching for the 6 weeks.

What were your thoughts that were confirmed about the JB4? What research did you do? If you did your research on here then you are going to get a very procede biased opinion. If you do your research on n54tech then you will get a JB biased opinion.

So if I were you I would talk to each company about there own product and get the facts on their product without asking their opinion on the other and then make a conclusion.

I see that you live in CA. I am in CA too (in LA). If you are near me and want to see what a JB car feels and drives like then I am more than happy to show you. Try and find someone around you with a procede car too and then compare. They are both great tunes, each with their advantages/disadvantages, you can't go wrong with either.

[Graystone]

most popular giac Cobb ,for flash and procede ,jb4 piggys
they have all come a long way and performance cost are even getting closer ...reliability, for all the hoopla seems to be pretty close with no real problems for any that can be atributed to tune. in the end the self preservation measures of the car that are at the core seem to be pretty good. that being said do wewantto relie on that is the question, for some.
Cobb not polished yet and no 07, giac have to go to get flash, jb4 and process have to go into engine bay and put it in.
I however am excited with the prospect of being able to flash and change maps with Cobb and by the time it comes out with 07 should be pretty much polished up as tune.

[BrianMN]

If only the engine could tell us which tune It preferred. It would be interesting to hear what a JB engine has to say, lol

[Jake@MOTIV]

Originally Posted by BrianMN

If only the engine could tell us which tune It preferred. It would be interesting to hear what a JB engine has to say, lol

"ouch"?

lol bazinga