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      01-27-2009, 05:29 PM   #23
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Lol thats a bad comparison man. The viper has a 8.4L V10 while the M5 has a 5.0L V10. Do not try to compare american engines to German or Italian engines. The europeans are ages ahead of the americans when it comes to that. Lets see an American car company squeeze out 500 hp from 5 liters without forced induction. The Z06 has a 7.0L engine that makes 500 hp. Don't get me wrong I love the power these engines make, but the way they make it matters a lot too. German Engineering <3
simple fact , bmw nor merc nor audi have a production car that can match a zr1 time on the ring

nor a sedan in the price range that can match a cts v
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Lol thats a bad comparison man. The viper has a 8.4L V10 while the M5 has a 5.0L V10. Do not try to compare american engines to German or Italian engines. The europeans are ages ahead of the americans when it comes to that. Lets see an American car company squeeze out 500 hp from 5 liters without forced induction. The Z06 has a 7.0L engine that makes 500 hp. Don't get me wrong I love the power these engines make, but the way they make it matters a lot too. German Engineering <3
Here we go with the displacement talk..... Who cares if it is 200 billion liters if it makes 2000 HP?
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Because most car companies can make a 8.4 liter 640 hp car. It's a lot easier to make that kind of hp when you have 8.4 cubic liters of space to use, but once you cut that down to 5 cubic liters of space, then it becomes extremely difficult to hold that much compression and not blow shit up. You think BMW, Audi, or Merc can't make a car that will match or beat the ZR1? There is no point in that now since the economy is so fucked world wide.
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Because most car companies can make a 8.4 liter 640 hp car. It's a lot easier to make that kind of hp when you have 8.4 cubic liters of space to use, but once you cut that down to 5 cubic liters of space, then it becomes extremely difficult to hold that much compression and not blow shit up. You think BMW, Audi, or Merc can't make a car that will match or beat the ZR1? There is no point in that now since the economy is so fucked world wide.
im not talking about , "could they?" the fact is they havent
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im not talking about , "could they?" the fact is they havent
Lol why make it if no ones gonna buy it How are the ZR1 sales doing btw?
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Lol why make it if no ones gonna buy it How are the ZR1 sales doing btw?
as far as im concerned ppeople are buying them
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500-600hp+reliable is a different story. I can assure you will pay twice as much to maintain/repair that V10 in the M5 as you would an LS7
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From what I've read the Z06 doesn't have to pay gas guzzler tax... yet it can beat many supercars two or three times its price.
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500-600hp+reliable is a different story. I can assure you will pay twice as much to maintain/repair that V10 in the M5 as you would an LS7
It costs more to maintain this quote than your BMW
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From what I've read the Z06 doesn't have to pay gas guzzler tax... yet it can beat many supercars two or three times its price.
With the new EPA testing regs, it does now.
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yea 556HP is not a joke, that thing is fast and it got 6.2 liters. 0-60 3.9s and its supercharged. well BMW achievs all that without turbos or superchargers so i guess americans are still trying
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The coupe has been delayed for one year; the rumor is that it will not be offered.
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The coupe has been delayed for one year; the rumor is that it will not be offered.
Yeah I heard about it being delayed... I guess it's a good thing for GM not to stress it out and focus on some moneymaking cars instead!

Didnt hear about it not being offered though, thats kinda sad actually!
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yea 556HP is not a joke, that thing is fast and it got 6.2 liters. 0-60 3.9s and its supercharged. well BMW achievs all that without turbos or superchargers so i guess americans are still trying

+1 my thoughts exactly, you took the words right out of my mouth godora.


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the cts-v is hot like fire.


i want it bad. i might trade my jeep in for it.

what do they go for about 60?
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The white one is 64. You can get them around 55.

You have that C6 Vette munching G don't you?
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55 wow? there is nothing to compete with this car in that price range at all.

thats seriously impressive

and yes i have the vette eater
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I think this will definitely be my next car
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Wait is it using direct injection technology?
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For Sale: Asking 85.

09 CTS-V
610 hp Hennessey V600 Upgrade with all factory options except Recaro seats. 0-60 mph 3.7 sec. 1/4 mile: 11.8 @ 122 mph. Other options included: Alcantara steering wheel and shift knob, HRE 20 inch wheels and new Michelin Pilot Sport 2 tires. Hennessey V600 upgrade includes upgraded supercharger snout and pulley, K&N air filter element, re-programmed engine management computer and stainless steel exhaust upgrades.




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09 CTS-V
610 hp Hennessey V600 Upgrade with all factory options except Recaro seats. 0-60 mph 3.7 sec. 1/4 mile: 11.8 @ 122 mph. Other options included: Alcantara steering wheel and shift knob, HRE 20 inch wheels and new Michelin Pilot Sport 2 tires. Hennessey V600 upgrade includes upgraded supercharger snout and pulley, K&N air filter element, re-programmed engine management computer and stainless steel exhaust upgrades.




Wow I want...this and vette are the only 2 american guys I'd actually drive
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