230 at wheels

daninsyd · 07-17-2007, 04:53 AM

hey all, got 230kw at wheels which is less than exspected, trying another chip next week from chiptorque, hopefully that brings more power.

e93 · 07-17-2007, 05:08 AM

I thought you had procede???

docbeemer · 07-17-2007, 05:10 AM

When you take driveline losses into account, that gives you about 280kW at the flywheel. Not bad actually. Good luck finding a chip that gives you more!

daninsyd · 07-17-2007, 05:24 AM

yeah got procede, chip torque give 246 at wheels, may just be a variations between models but worth investigating...

WOPALX · 07-17-2007, 05:30 AM

Did you give it a run without the chip to see what improvement you recieved from the PROceed?

Were there any correction factors applied?

My PROceed shipped today so interested to see what improvement you got.

Thanks,

S

daninsyd · 07-17-2007, 05:37 AM

unfortunately i didn't dyno it before hand, but i'd definately recommend doing that. i went to Tunehouse in Marrickville, really clean workshop, thought it was new but it was 6 years old!! http://www.tunehouse.com.au/

1q2w3e4r · 07-17-2007, 05:56 AM

Its just a dyno number, if you want comparable results take it to a drag strip before and after and get the ET.

WOPALX · 07-17-2007, 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daninsyd

unfortunately i didn't dyno it before hand, but i'd definately recommend doing that. i went to Tunehouse in Marrickville, really clean workshop, thought it was new but it was 6 years old!! http://www.tunehouse.com.au/

Cool, I'm about 5mins from there from work so will see if I can get a before and after result on my sedan. Will be interesting.

Regards,

S

CaptOz · 07-17-2007, 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daninsyd

may just be a variations between models but worth investigating...

...or dynos perhaps.

Once PROcede version 2 arrives next month, it will clearly be in front of any other chip in horsepower.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1q2w3e4r

Its just a dyno number, if you want comparable results take it to a drag strip before and after and get the ET.

As I found out today, the PROcede makes the 335i a WRX/EVO killer.

Cheers.

BMW //MPOWER · 07-17-2007, 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptOz

...or dynos perhaps.

Once PROcede version 2 arrives next month, it will clearly be in front of any other chip in horsepower.

As I found out today, the PROcede makes the 335i a WRX/EVO killer.

Cheers.

The 335i without PROcede or anything has always been a WRX/EVO killer on a track without many corners, however if it's a windy circuit the WRX/EVO's come into their own and will eat pretty much anything for breakfast.

CaptOz · 07-17-2007, 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMW //MPOWER

The 335i without PROcede or anything has always been a WRX/EVO killer on a track without many corners, however if it's a windy circuit the WRX/EVO's come into their own and will eat pretty much anything for breakfast.

The PROcede makes it alot easier to catch up on the straight bits.

The great advantage of the WRX/EVO is their all-wheel-drive. They could get a jump on me on the tight left hander going on to the straight. It made catching up and passing them so much harder with my slower entry speed.

Cheers.

daninsyd · 07-17-2007, 07:19 AM

heading down to eastern creek for a drag next wednesday night, anyone like to come on down? bringing camera and posting on youtube

Sparky66 · 07-17-2007, 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daninsyd

hey all, got 230kw at wheels which is less than exspected, trying another chip next week from chiptorque, hopefully that brings more power.

Chiptorque basically use the older XEDE unit and based on results on the US E90post Forums, it produces slightly less power than the Procede with 1.47 software. Once v.2.0 software is released XEDE won't be able to touch Procede.

astra · 07-17-2007, 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMW //MPOWER

The 335i without PROcede or anything has always been a WRX/EVO killer on a track without many corners, however if it's a windy circuit the WRX/EVO's come into their own and will eat pretty much anything for breakfast.

+1

sad but true

1q2w3e4r · 07-17-2007, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daninsyd

heading down to eastern creek for a drag next wednesday night, anyone like to come on down? bringing camera and posting on youtube

There's a group of us going down tonight, although I don't imagine it'll be a repeat next week with commitments etc.

You should be able to run a really good mph in this weather!

daninsyd · 07-18-2007, 02:36 AM

how'd you go with times?

BMW //MPOWER · 07-18-2007, 04:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by astra

+1

sad but true

I don't think it's sad, each car has it's own feature.
Like some of the cup category racing in australia, where you get E46 M3's, EVO's and some HSV GTO's, on the tracks with lots of long straights the HSV's won, tracks with lots of tight corners the EVO's ate everyone for breakfast, everything in between was owned by the M3. Which is why it's the benchmark, and the current 335i is probably nearly every bit as good as the outgoing M3.

astra · 07-18-2007, 04:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMW //MPOWER

I don't think it's sad, each car has it's own feature.
Like some of the cup category racing in australia, where you get E46 M3's, EVO's and some HSV GTO's, on the tracks with lots of long straights the HSV's won, tracks with lots of tight corners the EVO's ate everyone for breakfast, everything in between was owned by the M3. Which is why it's the benchmark, and the current 335i is probably nearly every bit as good as the outgoing M3.

yeh they are both good in their own way... the e46 m3 is an m car, so it will always be special, but the 335 is the new car, and goes well with alot of potential... looking forward to the new m3!

1q2w3e4r · 07-18-2007, 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daninsyd

how'd you go with times?

The track is in average condition so be prepared for it. My car was still turning the wheels over after the shift into fourth on the first pass. Which I just watched back on the video. Was scary with the back end stepping out quite a bit in 3rd in one of the passes.

It got better as the night progressed but don't expect to run an awesome ET if its simular to this week, everyone I knew was running about .3ths slower in the 60'ft.

Best pass of the night was a 13.0 at 116 mph, over half a second slower than my PB of 12.3 and a mate's 996TT ran a 12.5 at 114 mph as well also well of his PB. We left early as the conditions weren't great.

But we had a blast and I'm sure you'll have a great time! Good luck with it

07-17-2007, 04:53 AM	#1
daninsyd Second Lieutenant 28 Rep 260 Posts Drives: e92 335i Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: australia iTrader: (0)	230 at wheels hey all, got 230kw at wheels which is less than exspected, trying another chip next week from chiptorque, hopefully that brings more power.
	Appreciate 0 Tweet Quote

07-17-2007, 05:08 AM	#2
e93 open air motoring at its best 18 Rep 481 Posts Drives: BMW E93 335i Convertible Join Date: May 2007 Location: Central Coast NSW Australia iTrader: (0) Garage List 2007 e93 335i [0.00]	I thought you had procede??? __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] 2007 335i Convertible \|\| Black Sapphire \| Cream Beige \| Burr Walnut \| 6 AT Paddles \| Comfort Access \| Aluminium Pedals \| Aero Front Spoiler \| Remus Quads \| KW V3 Coilovers \| Velocity V-715 wheels \| M3 Rear Lip Spoiler \|\| On Order \|\| \|\| Wishlist \|\| \|\|
	Appreciate 0 Quote

07-17-2007, 05:10 AM	#3
docbeemer First Lieutenant 8 Rep 306 Posts Drives: E92 SG 335i Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Melbourne Australia iTrader: (0)	When you take driveline losses into account, that gives you about 280kW at the flywheel. Not bad actually. Good luck finding a chip that gives you more! __________________ 335i \| 6MT \| SG \| Jade Grey \| Poplar Grain Grey \| 19" 230 rims \| Sunroof \| NAV with TV & voice control \| HiFi \| Sport Suspension \| Rear Sunblind \| 35% tints
	Appreciate 0 Quote

07-17-2007, 05:24 AM	#4
daninsyd Second Lieutenant 28 Rep 260 Posts Drives: e92 335i Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: australia iTrader: (0)	yeah got procede, chip torque give 246 at wheels, may just be a variations between models but worth investigating...
	Appreciate 0 Quote

07-17-2007, 05:30 AM	#5
WOPALX Lieutenant Colonel 86 Rep 1,993 Posts Drives: 335i Sedan Join Date: May 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia iTrader: (2)	Did you give it a run without the chip to see what improvement you recieved from the PROceed? Were there any correction factors applied? My PROceed shipped today so interested to see what improvement you got. Thanks, S
	Appreciate 0 Quote

07-17-2007, 05:37 AM	#6
daninsyd Second Lieutenant 28 Rep 260 Posts Drives: e92 335i Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: australia iTrader: (0)	unfortunately i didn't dyno it before hand, but i'd definately recommend doing that. i went to Tunehouse in Marrickville, really clean workshop, thought it was new but it was 6 years old!! http://www.tunehouse.com.au/
	Appreciate 0 Quote

07-17-2007, 05:56 AM	#7
1q2w3e4r Breakfast at Tiffany's 24 Rep 1,053 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Sydney iTrader: (0)	Its just a dyno number, if you want comparable results take it to a drag strip before and after and get the ET.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

07-17-2007, 07:19 AM	#12
daninsyd Second Lieutenant 28 Rep 260 Posts Drives: e92 335i Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: australia iTrader: (0)	heading down to eastern creek for a drag next wednesday night, anyone like to come on down? bringing camera and posting on youtube
	Appreciate 0 Quote

07-18-2007, 02:36 AM	#16
daninsyd Second Lieutenant 28 Rep 260 Posts Drives: e92 335i Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: australia iTrader: (0)	how'd you go with times?
	Appreciate 0 Quote