[jfawns76]

Originally Posted by MusclezMarinara

the car will not stall.....did you run out of gas?

Nope about 3/4 of a tank...just started jerking & puttering for a few seconds! I was in traffic, only about 20mph, and the engine completely shut off once I got slowed on the side of the road. I could not maintain speed whatsoever, complete loss of power.

[dragazn]

Originally Posted by MusclezMarinara

how do you guys almost get hit? My car has done the "slug along mode" and its really not like "ohh $h!t im gunna die ahhhh", it cuts power above 4000 rpms not a big deal...if you cant move over to the right lane DONT DRIVE !

What you are refering to is the LIMP mode. LIMP mode is only a symptom before your fuel pump die out. We are talking about our car die(the whole endgine just shutoff when you are driving in the middle of the highway.). Ever try to drive with the motor not being on?????

[jfawns76]

Yes my loss of power was certainly not limp mode. That kicked in a few days later, before I got the 933 installed, very big difference!

[Bavarian E92]

N54 - N55 engine with the problematic HPFP

2006– E90 Sedan 335i
2006– E91 Touring 335i
2006– E92 Coupé 335i
2007– E93 Convertible 335i
2008– E60 Sedan 535i
2008– E61 Touring 535i
2008– E82 Coupé 135i
2008– E88 Convertible 135i
2009– F01 Sedan 740i
2009– BMW X6 xDrive35i
2010– BMW Z4 sDrive35i
2011– E92 Coupé 335is
2011– E93 Convertible 335is
2012– Morgan Eva GT

[dragazn]

Originally Posted by jfawns76

Yes my loss of power was certainly not limp mode. That kicked in a few days later, before I got the 933 installed, very big difference!

my apologies, its not LIMP then, its power loss. I was refering to engine shutoff

[rag133]

What does one have to do with the other??? Why would i feel unsafe with a Dinan tune when the car actually DRIVES??? Who says I have to drive 100 MPH with her in the car???

Yeah I feel unsafe when the car limps and doesn't drive!!

Thanks for your input though, although it really makes zero sense.

Originally Posted by MusclezMarinara

Bro you have a dinan tune and you feel unsafe when the car limps out?


Can't feel to unsafe with the tune and having your daughter in the car...

Dinan Stage II Installed

[Move.Over]

While watching ABC news I noticed their teaser for tomorrow's HPFP investigation. Basically luxury car stops in the middle of the road, dangerous for all involved. Watch Good Morning for more. No mention of brand yet etc.

In mine case hard start in parking lot and reduced power. Lousy Elantra as loaner. Still blame 10% ethanol and the farm lobby and not BMW. Just give me the option of 100% gas. Wonder if ABC will look at the ethanol angle.

[BrianMN]

So how common is it for someone to get FULL power loss, meaning the engine shuts off? I had never heard of that until this thread--only the common limp mode, which is completely driveable. In fact, the limp mode w/bolt ons is just as fast around a racetrack as a stock S2k, Nissan Maxima, Pontiac G6, and Subaru imprezza, haha don't ask me how I know.

[Quisp]

Originally Posted by MusclezMarinara

how do you guys almost get hit? My car has done the "slug along mode" and its really not like "ohh $h!t im gunna die ahhhh", it cuts power above 4000 rpms not a big deal...if you cant move over to the right lane DONT DRIVE !

Read the responses a little more carefully. The power cuts out COMPLETELY. My car does not shut off. The idle bounces up and down around 1000 rpm on its own. The gas pedal is useless, nothing happens when you press it. The car is still idling up and down but not doing anything. Yes there is gas in the tank.
It usually happens under hard acceleration(like in the fast lane when passing someone and with other cars behind you going as fast)
Want a similar experience, when driving have someone throw the car into neutral while you are attrmepting a high speed pass. But they cant tell you when they are going to do it and you cant put it in gear until you reach the shoulder. Coast alomng the highway and see the cars fly by. Bonus points if you do it during rush hour on a highway with 5 or more lanes and you are in the far left.

And it is common enough that i had it happen 6 times, I have not gotten the other type of limp mode wiuth "reduced" power. and one more time, the engine did not shut off itr dropped to idle and loss of gas pedal function

[Quisp]

Originally Posted by BrianMN

So how common is it for someone to get FULL power loss, meaning the engine shuts off? I had never heard of that until this thread--only the common limp mode, which is completely driveable. In fact, the limp mode w/bolt ons is just as fast around a racetrack as a stock S2k, Nissan Maxima, Pontiac G6, and Subaru imprezza, haha don't ask me how I know.

Well, if it hasnt happened to you or you havent heard of it then what? It doesnt happen?
Why are there so many people who just go around questioning things that happen to others as if those people made it up. And why do they question it, because it has not happened to them or they never heard of it before. That is called a learning experience.
If it hasnt happened to you be thankful, be happy,be liberated, but dont be an ass and tell the people that are having the problem they dont know what they are talking about. The reality is if you dont have the problem nor have you experienced it, then there is a good chance you are the one who doesnt know what you are talking about.
This gets old.

[BrianMN]

Originally Posted by Quisp

Well, if it hasnt happened to you or you havent heard of it then what? It doesnt happen?
Why are there so many people who just go around questioning things that happen to others as if those people made it up. And why do they question it, because it has not happened to them or they never heard of it before. That is called a learning experience.
If it hasnt happened to you be thankful, be happy,be liberated, but dont be an ass and tell the people that are having the problem they dont know what they are talking about. The reality is if you dont have the problem nor have you experienced it, then there is a good chance you are the one who doesnt know what you are talking about.
This gets old.

Settle down dude, jeez. It was a clear question asking how common it is, nobody ever said it doesn't exist or you're making it up.

And there has to be some indication of the fuel pump close to going out, no? Or does it start perfectly, idles perfectly, has no codes, etc...and just cuts outs? If it did show signs of it going out (which I have a hard time believing it wouldn't), and you've been had this dangerous experience 6 times, wouldn't you bring it in at the first sign to avoid it going out on the road?

[imperium2000]

As Brian said, chill out.

Originally Posted by Quisp

Well, if it hasnt happened to you or you havent heard of it then what? It doesnt happen?

I don't know, someone asked: how common is it for someone to get FULL power loss, meaning the engine shuts off?
Do you know?

No one is learning a thing from you. You are making a claim. No one has a reason to take any of your claims at face value.
You seem to be claiming something that no one else ever has. Are you sure you yourself aren't jumping to conclusions?
Are you sure it is the HPFP and not some other issue with your car? Has your dealer told you the issue with the car yet?

If it hasnt happened to you be thankful, be happy,be liberated, but dont be an ass and tell the people that are having the problem they dont know what they are talking about.
The reality is if you dont have the problem nor have you experienced it, then there is a good chance you are the one who doesnt know what you are talking about.

What complete garbage. Just because you get cancer, does not magically mean you know a thing about it.

Now do can you actually answer the question or do you not know the answer?

[inthemiddle]

Originally Posted by BrianMN

In my opinion, I think many people are taking the severity of the HPFP problems a little far. Is it REALLY that much of an inconveniece to drop off your car for a day once a year? True, it use tl take weeks for te dealership to try to fix It, but they are a lot better now. ..simply throw a new one on And send you on your way. I Just don't think its worth getting so worked up over...as many on this thread are.
Also, I can't picture how a faulty fuel pump is going to cause a major accident or crash. That Is taking it way too far. If a driver cannot manage to move over 2 lanes in traffic before the car comes to a stop without crashing, they probably should Not be driving in the first place IMHO.

Just my. 02

My biggest problem is fear of getting stranded...... I drive to very remote places a couple times a year, the most remote being death valley...... As it is I carry a spare pump and tools in my car.... THERE IS NO DEALER IN DEATH VALLEY !!!! And what pisses me off the most, is on the couple of pumps I have changed myself, BMW is refusing to warranty the part because they didn't change it..... To me, that is absolute BS..... I love the car, but I will never buy another BMW due to them treating me like that, as well as the handling of the hpfp issue overall...

[bryce]

anybody watching? i've got my dvr recording both good morning america and night line, just wondering how the show's going?

[Penn999]

I looked the abc website I found the title but no video...what time does it come on tonight?

[scalbert]

It was on at 7:18 AM EDT this morning on Good Morning America. About what I expected. Mention of it failing and rapidly slowing which terrified the panel of owners. They interviewed a lead engineer with BMWNA and while they sympathize with owners, they stated that the vehicle is save to drive even when in Limp Mode.

Of note though, they said BMW was going to make a major annoucement today regarding this matter. There will be a follow up report tonight on Nightline.

Even though they stated it affected vehicles using the N54 engine, they showed a picture of the N55.

[hangover]

Originally Posted by scalbert

It was on at 7:18 AM EDT this morning on Good Morning America. About what I expected. Mention of it failing and rapidly slowing which terrified the panel of owners. They interviewed a lead engineer with BMWNA and while they sympathize with owners, they stated that the vehicle is save to drive even when in Limp Mode.

Of note though, they said BMW was going to make a major annoucement today regarding this matter. There will be a follow up report tonight on Nightline.

Even though they stated it affected vehicles using the N54 engine, they showed a picture of the N55.

Major announcement? Speculate!

[scalbert]

Originally Posted by hangover

Major announcement? Speculate!

Probably that they extended the warranty on the HPFP.

[vasillalov]

Originally Posted by BrianMN

And there has to be some indication of the fuel pump close to going out, no? Or does it start perfectly, idles perfectly, has no codes, etc...and just cuts outs? If it did show signs of it going out (which I have a hard time believing it wouldn't), and you've been had this dangerous experience 6 times, wouldn't you bring it in at the first sign to avoid it going out on the road?

I can confirm the complete cutout situation. When my fuel pump died, there were no symptoms that showed the upcoming failure. No long cranks, no rough idle, no limp mode! Nothing!

The car lost power and engine died all of a sudden! All I was able to do is push the clutch in and let the car roll to a stop on the side of the street! I was lucky I was in a quiet slow street instead of on a highway when this happened.

THAT is absolutely dangerous if it happens to you on the left lane of a busy highway!

[scalbert]

Originally Posted by vasillalov

THAT is absolutely dangerous if it happens to you on the left lane of a busy highway!

Duh, just stay in the right lane then.

[import36]

Originally Posted by scalbert

Probably that they extended the warranty on the HPFP.

exactly....that would be a "major announcement" to someone who doesn't own one and received that nice letter in the mail last year.

[scalbert]

http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/bmw-adm...ry?id=11968495