[bender rodriguez]

Before I got my BMW my friend used to like the company now he says he will buy a luxury Japanese car. Mostly due to the fact that nothing comes standard on the cars. He says they cheap out on things like standard nav system, blue tooth, leather seats and hids.

I kinda agree that they need to step up the standard package. Also adding packages make the price soar. Also does a base 5 series come with much more tan base 3?

[Viktimize]

Yes it does kind of suck. I picked up my 335 and found out it has basically nothing. Now I'm in the process of figuring out how I am going to solve my lack of Sirius and BT problems. Neither of which seem cheap any way you look at it.

[Dylanize]

Buy used.

[smallseafishie]

I for one am a fan of a la carte. Yes options get expensive but I'd much rather have the choice of various options than forcing car companies forcing me to get a bunch of stuff that isn't important to me in a big expensive options package.

[Delusive]

I agree with that but just because other companies are making it a standard doesn't mean BMW should also, I mean it would be nice but some of us just love our cars for what it is. People now a days are caught up with the hype of all this technology in cars so it makes them think they need it when they really don't.

I drive my car to drive, I don't live in it so I don't need all those packages and yes depending on the 5 series model it's almost basically the same as the 3 series.

[Timujin]

Originally Posted by Dylanize

Buy used.

^ I saved $14000 buying a 6k miles near year old car. Your results may vary.

[Bingobimmer]

I don't see this as a bad thing, but you definitely have to do a good deal of research before you buy

[E902009]

Yea, buy used. My car had a $41k price tag in 2009. I got it for half after 4 years, and it was still in great condition. I'm a huge fan of sunroofs, and every car I've owned had a sunroof. Unfortunately with most cars today you have to order a package to get the sunroof. I hate option packages.

[bender rodriguez]

Originally Posted by E902009

Yea, buy used. My car had a $41k price tag in 2009. I got it for half after 4 years, and it was still in great condition. I'm a huge fan of sunroofs, and every car I've owned had a sunroof. Unfortunately with most cars today you have to order a package to get the sunroof. I hate option packages.

I did buy used got a decent amount of things but def didn't get some basics. I question why BMW does some things. Like why give me power lumbar sport seats yet the seats are manual. Why make a car with a mulf2 yet leave a cable out so I don't have Bluetooth. Why have led exterior lighting the reg bulbs inside

[bender rodriguez]

I am curios what a fully loaded 328i new costs

[JBE90335]

These things aren't standard on the A4 or C250 either. Nobody buys these cars for standard features, they buy them for the way they drive. I work at a luxury used car place and everyone that test drives the 3-series has purchased that over the competition. Even an old lady bought a 328i vert over the G37 vert because it "just felt better". See..it's not just our imaginations

[bender rodriguez]

Originally Posted by Alpine390

These things aren't standard on the A4 or C250 either. Nobody buys these cars for standard features, they buy them for the way they drive. I work at a luxury used car place and everyone that test drives the 3-series has purchased that over the competition. Even an old lady bought a 328i vert over the G37 vert because it "just felt better". See..it's not just our imaginations

People always rag on my car because a Kia has more options

[BOBKUR]

Originally Posted by Viktimize

Yes it does kind of suck. I picked up my 335 and found out it has basically nothing. Now I'm in the process of figuring out how I am going to solve my lack of Sirius and BT problems. Neither of which seem cheap any way you look at it.

You never buy them new, let someone else take the hit. I bought mine loaded when it was 3 yrs. old for 22500 loaded with 19k on it.

[bender rodriguez]

I also notice 6spd and 2 door makes these cars cost a ton more

[DC_Oldboy]

Originally Posted by BOBKUR

You never buy them new, let someone else take the hit. I bought mine loaded when it was 3 yrs. old for 22500 loaded with 19k on it.

^ This. I will never buy new cars. But I'll make sure it has some warranty on it.

[bender rodriguez]

Originally Posted by DC_Oldboy

^ This. I will never buy new cars. But I'll make sure it has some warranty on it.

Didn't help me the dealer refused to replace my peeling trim under warranty. Guess I should have said yes when he asked if I bought the car from him.

[DML]

Trust me your friend is paying for the goodies besides never bought a Bimmer for the gadgets...That's what you want buy a Lexus plenty of goodies to go with that 4 wheel couch.

[DC_Oldboy]

Originally Posted by Mr.Ritz

Didn't help me the dealer refused to replace my peeling trim under warranty. Guess I should have said yes when he asked if I bought the car from him.

Did you buy the car used? Are you under CPO or factory warranty? IF CPO then yeah, they won't do it.

[E902009]

Originally Posted by Mr.Ritz

I did buy used got a decent amount of things but def didn't get some basics. I question why BMW does some things. Like why give me power lumbar sport seats yet the seats are manual. Why make a car with a mulf2 yet leave a cable out so I don't have Bluetooth. Why have led exterior lighting the reg bulbs inside

There are advantages to the manual seats. They're lighter, but they're also cheaper to make and repair. I would not have minded the manual seats so much if the height adjustment wasn't so damn ridiculous. You almost have to prop yourself up, or raise it before you sit down to get any height.

The HIDs I don't understand, but the interior lights could be that most people still prefer "warm" lights rather than LEDs. I believe BMW sinks a lot of money into market research, and whatever they choose probably appeals to the most people. At the end of the day, it's all a numbers game.

BMW knows it can charge a premium for its brand image, which is unfortunate The 328i could have been made by KIA, as long as it had the same exact quality and attributes, but cost less (due to not being able to charge for the logo), I would still buy it. If it's of any consolation, the E30 325is I owned last had an original sticker of $29k in 1989, which is over $54k today, and the quality, equipment, fit and finish are nowhere near as refined as our cars today.

[Supreme214]

100% agreed. Before my 335i, I had 06 325i base model. It had nothing compared to my old lexus is250 (before 325i lol). 1 thing that really bothered me was the manual seats.....seriously?

[mic_e92]

I think it depends on what you want if your a tech guy go for all those cool option me personally I like car simple and I bought my car for it's performance not its cool options. I just drove a 328i f30 as a loaner car that car has full package it's pretty nice what they change on the interior and the tech.

[Kalidian]

Yea rock-bottom base model kind of blows, not what you'd think you'd get in a bmw. At the very least you need premium and sport package, which gives you exactly what it sounds like lol... makes it more sporty and fun but also more classy and luxurious with the leather and power-everything. If you live in a place with winters I'd say cold weather package is pretty necessary too - heated seats and steering save lives lol. But yea... it costs.