DIY: TVandNav2Go

undergl · 07-06-2006, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by xcalibr

I haven't even gotten the camera yet --I just did a prewire DIY for anyone who could get a backup camera before I could. I haven't even ordered my camera yet, but I will tonight --so I'll post up a picture when I have it installed sometime next week.

OK Thanks, I wait this picture next week.

saini023 · 07-07-2006, 03:51 PM

anyone find a acc wire? i'm using the cig as my acc and constant to fuse box..i really dnt wna hook back up my low voltage trigger..

BMW06 · 07-09-2006, 09:46 PM

Today I successfully installed TVANDNAV2GO module in my E90.

Well it was not that easy, it had few bumps, but in the end it was just perfect. Thanks to xcalibr & longtran for their install pictures, it gave me lot of courage to do it myself.

Initially I did not understanding clearly the power (constant/ACC, where to get it) stuff, but during install I learned few things that I think I will share with you guys.

PROVED THEORY: Fusebox fuses behave just like the accessory they support.
i.e. IF a fuse is for home-link/PDC/sunroof then it will get current only in 'IGNITION' mode (when ignition is ON).
While if fuse is for courtesy/dome lights then it will get current in 'RADIO/ACCESSORY' mode (when radio is turned ON).

With this theory, we get the same result as what xclaibr gets using 'low voltage trigger and it solves longtran's 'dash power tap' handicap (TVANDNAV2GO unit, and hence the i-drive LCD screen, running only in 'IGNITION' mode).

So the fuse I tapped for ACC is fuse 5 from the factory fuse diagram. And for +12V, I tapped fuse 47.
RESULT: Your install is clean without splicing of factory wires for power purpose.

Well my camera could not give me desired picture of my fusebox, so I am posting my markings on one of the posted picture of fusebox in another thread (hardwire V1 to fusebox).

saini023 · 07-09-2006, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BMW06

So the fuse I tapped for ACC is fuse 5 from the factory fuse diagram. And for +12V, I tapped fuse 47.

do u know what the fuse 5 is for? notice any power drains for whatever fuse 5 is for? i will have to go ahead and switch my "ACC" from the cig lighter to the fuse box..as for constant..same spot i used.. great work on the install...

ctgazer · 07-09-2006, 10:34 PM

^^what did you hook you your dvd unit to? tell us pleaseeeeeeee

BenMW · 07-09-2006, 10:40 PM

You know what would be amazing...If someone started a new thread with perfect DIY instructions including the wiring for power and sound with pics so I can print it out and bring it over the the Car electronics store and they would know what to do. Because this is getting way over my head.

Thanks and if anyone ever does this well.... your amazing and a God.

ps. yes i already know there is a DIY out there that shows me how to install most of it.

saini023 · 07-09-2006, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ctgazer

^^what did you hook you your dvd unit to? tell us pleaseeeeeeee

i dont know if your askin me or BMW06..but i havent hooked up a dvd player yet..i am still debating if i want a DVD player (half din like longs) or a PS2..if i use a PS2 i will use a power inverter hooked up directly to my car battery...if i do the half din DVD player..i dont know yet..i know what kind of power connections it has AC or DC..or hardwire. IF hardwire then maybe fuse box

LWL · 07-09-2006, 11:38 PM

Geez..... these still looks complicated. I am still confusing over the power source stuff. :mad: Anyhow, I am still waiting for mine unit to come.

xcalibr · 07-10-2006, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by LWL

Geez..... these still looks complicated. I am still confusing over the power source stuff. :mad: Anyhow, I am still waiting for mine unit to come.

Don't worry Elaine, if you and Ben can't figure it out, I'm just across the bay bridge from you guys --definitely willing to come help you out.

Good job finding the fuse BMW06... I was looking for such a fuse when I was installing my sound system, but I didn't have the fuse-tap for the mini fuses, so I didn't bother checking any of them. I'll go out and verify that with a multimeter and then revise the DIY (part 1) so BenMW can have his "perfect" DIY.

foofighter · 07-10-2006, 01:19 AM

excellent write up!

BMW06 · 07-10-2006, 06:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saini023

do u know what the fuse 5 is for? notice any power drains for whatever fuse 5 is for? i will have to go ahead and switch my "ACC" from the cig lighter to the fuse box..as for constant..same spot i used.. great work on the install...

according to factory diagram, that is in the fusebox, fuse 5 is for accessory lighting such as dome light & vanity mirror light. I tested it by plugging out that fuse in RADIO/ACCESSORY mode.
In our car E90, single fuse do support multiple accessories, but I believe this fuse is for that only (or for the option that I dont have). But anyway I have added another 3 AMP fuse in addition to factory 7.5 AMP in that fuse-tap for conversion unit. So that should be fine. (Remember in that fuse tap, you can add 2 fuses).

I believe there should be no power drain. I have just installed for say 24 hrs. I'll let you know if I see anything.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctgazer

what did you hook you your dvd unit to? tell us pleaseeeeeeee

Right now I am using PS2, I plug it to cigarette lighter. But I believe we can get BMW flash light power adapter & plug it there, so we can turn it on in 'radio' mode (as that is a constant +12V source). Just remember to unplug it everytime, otherwise you will drain your battery.
Or just look for another fuse that is similar to fuse 5.

LWL · 07-10-2006, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by xcalibr

Don't worry Elaine, if you and Ben can't figure it out, I'm just across the bay bridge from you guys --definitely willing to come help you out.

Thanks alot! Most likely I will need your help on this. When are you going back to Taiwan??

xcalibr · 07-10-2006, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by LWL

Thanks alot! Most likely I will need your help on this. When are you going back to Taiwan??

I'm leaving on Thursday night (13th-14th), I'll be back on Saturday the 22nd.

saini023 · 07-10-2006, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by xcalibr

I'm leaving on Thursday night (13th-14th), I'll be back on Saturday the 22nd.

LWL if you need help and xcalibr is out of town, i can help you out also. i'm in san bruno, not to far away. i plan on finishing my car today. i havent done the sound yet or hook up a PS2..

LWL · 07-10-2006, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by saini023

LWL if you need help and xcalibr is out of town, i can help you out also. i'm in san bruno, not to far away. i plan on finishing my car today. i havent done the sound yet or hook up a PS2..

you are in san bruno?? I am in millbrae, so that's pretty close by. I am planning to install it this weekend at my finacee's place in SSF. If I couldn't figure it out, I will probably ask for your help!

Thanks in advance.

saini023 · 07-10-2006, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by LWL

you are in san bruno?? I am in millbrae, so that's pretty close by. I am planning to install it this weekend at my finacee's place in SSF. If I couldn't figure it out, I will probably ask for your help!

Thanks in advance.

south city even closer..and if i remember we both also go to ADS..haha..yea just let me know..

xcalibr · 07-10-2006, 10:00 PM

haha you guys have fun installing... nor cal tech-day mini-meet! I will be partying at Plush by this weekend... I'll post from Taiwan though --as soon as I find the car-audio place... if I find anythign good, maybe I can bring some back for you guys.

saini023 · 07-11-2006, 01:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xcalibr

haha you guys have fun installing... nor cal tech-day mini-meet! I will be partying at Plush by this weekend... I'll post from Taiwan though --as soon as I find the car-audio place... if I find anythign good, maybe I can bring some back for you guys.

enjoy your trip..thanks for all ur help.woudlnt be able to do it with out u

LWL · 07-11-2006, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by saini023

enjoy your trip..thanks for all ur help.woudlnt be able to do it with out u

+100000

Have fun in Taiwan....... with the HOTTTTT weather

gmcwv · 07-11-2006, 07:42 AM

Has anyone paid attention to the last page of the install document that came with our units?

It states "CAUTION: When you update the car computing system, it must be cut it off which is connected to Acc power" (yes I included the bad english).

Does this mean that we have to unplug or just cut off the power to the unit, or should we plug the original cable back into the navi unit in order to have updates to the car computer?

ctgazer · 07-11-2006, 08:33 AM

i figure that once you have it all installed, then it will be a breeze to disconnect everything and bring it into the dealer should you never need an update

xcalibr · 07-11-2006, 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gmcwv

Has anyone paid attention to the last page of the install document that came with our units?

It states "CAUTION: When you update the car computing system, it must be cut it off which is connected to Acc power" (yes I included the bad english).

Does this mean that we have to unplug or just cut off the power to the unit, or should we plug the original cable back into the navi unit in order to have updates to the car computer?

I don't remember seeing this... is it from the section talking about the dip switches? It might mean when you adjust the dips, you have to disconnect power.

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BMW06 Second Lieutenant 8 Rep 252 Posts Drives: F15 xDrive35i Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Massachusetts iTrader: (0)	Another successful installation (solution fo ACC) Today I successfully installed TVANDNAV2GO module in my E90. Well it was not that easy, it had few bumps, but in the end it was just perfect. Thanks to xcalibr & longtran for their install pictures, it gave me lot of courage to do it myself. Initially I did not understanding clearly the power (constant/ACC, where to get it) stuff, but during install I learned few things that I think I will share with you guys. PROVED THEORY: Fusebox fuses behave just like the accessory they support. i.e. IF a fuse is for home-link/PDC/sunroof then it will get current only in 'IGNITION' mode (when ignition is ON). While if fuse is for courtesy/dome lights then it will get current in 'RADIO/ACCESSORY' mode (when radio is turned ON). With this theory, we get the same result as what xclaibr gets using 'low voltage trigger and it solves longtran's 'dash power tap' handicap (TVANDNAV2GO unit, and hence the i-drive LCD screen, running only in 'IGNITION' mode). So the fuse I tapped for ACC is fuse 5 from the factory fuse diagram. And for +12V, I tapped fuse 47. RESULT: Your install is clean without splicing of factory wires for power purpose. Well my camera could not give me desired picture of my fusebox, so I am posting my markings on one of the posted picture of fusebox in another thread (hardwire V1 to fusebox). Attached Images Last edited by BMW06; 07-10-2006 at 06:09 AM.. Reason: Updating picture
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