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C&D says E90 > F30
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10-03-2012, 02:01 AM | #23 |
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Drove an E90 323i and a F30 328i Sport back to back the other day. Aside from the obvious power difference, I must say the F30 made the E90 feel like a grandma wagon. It just trumps the previous generation car in every possible way. The steering sharp and communicate, the suspension taut yet supple. The automatic transmission, quite possibly psychic. Impossible to catch off guard.
In my eyes, you can't compare the two cars. World's apart.
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10-03-2012, 05:32 AM | #24 |
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This isn't just confined to the 3 series either. The newest 5 series and 7 series are losing to competitors in handling/driving experience when the old version would win in that category.
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10-03-2012, 07:47 AM | #25 |
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The F30 is still pretty nice. While I do prefer the driving feel of the e9x, I think the F30 cabin is more to my liking. However there are quite a few people with qualms about the F30 - that should say something about the product. I still think the front looks weird and I really believe they are going to make it look much better for the F32.
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10-03-2012, 08:13 AM | #26 | |
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Some other details inside are like it or hate it design -- like the red/blue accent lines, etc. So...Japanese.... Other than that, the car is done well and well balanced. |
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10-03-2012, 08:21 AM | #27 | |
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It's nice they compare e90 and f30. I would like all car magazines to include actual current vs prev test drive compares, cause people often cross shop when generations switch. I guess is 250/350 would loose to is300 in cd eyes. Personally I never test drove f30, but wouldn't buy it because of - di engine (carbonization) - more weight - inside design is too generic |
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10-03-2012, 08:21 AM | #28 | |
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Electric steering can be program and tune to feel relatively close to hydraulic, but BMW is not there yet, maybe a few years from now. Look wise, no doubt the E90 looks better, but thats just my opinion. Not just the aluminum suspension parts have been replace with steel but the whole from sub frame, also, the oil pan is now made of plastic. |
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10-03-2012, 09:48 AM | #29 |
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I don't trust anything they say after they said the s6 and e63 beat the new m5 by a lot
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10-03-2012, 10:01 AM | #30 |
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C&D sucks BMW's c*ck, so for them to say the RS6 and E63 beat the F10 M5 says something about it, and BMW. We are no longer in the age where you bought a Toyota or Honda because they're reliable, you bought a Mercedes because they are the luxury automaker, you bought a BMW because it is the premium sports sedan, you bought an Audi because BMW didn't make AWD and you can't afford a Mercedes, you bought Chevy bcz 'Murika. Times are changing, BMW is not the company they use to be for reasons forced on them and for reasons they chose to accept. rip na i6.
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10-03-2012, 10:15 AM | #31 |
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IMO the F30 is a better overall car than the E90 but not a better BMW. I also prefer the E46 to E90. The F30 just go too soft around the edges, lost most of the UDM BMW appeal to me.
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10-03-2012, 11:01 AM | #32 |
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E46 <3, just a coupe is too small for how often my car has an occupancy greater than 1.
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10-03-2012, 12:03 PM | #33 |
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the steering feel and the girly sounding horn kills it for me.
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10-03-2012, 12:23 PM | #35 | |
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10-03-2012, 12:54 PM | #36 | |
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10-03-2012, 01:03 PM | #37 | |
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Don't forget the Z4 as well. All have been "downgraded" from the sport aspect to appeal to a broader market. And its been working for them from a sales point of view. |
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10-03-2012, 01:36 PM | #38 |
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Yup, there's a reason why Audi is continuing its monthly growth in sales and breaking records.
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10-03-2012, 02:18 PM | #39 |
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Don't know where you pulled those numbers from but the way I see it, 34 is over 20% more than 28. Further, my wife gets 23mpg mixed in her 2011 328. In an F30 loaner, she gets 30 mpg over the same routes, same speeds and so on. That is near as makes no difference to 33% more miles per gallon. Put another way, once her e90 has run dry, the F30 would have 112 more miles left to empty. 112 miles This difference only becomes more significant the higher gas prices go.
Factor in the fact that the F30 extracts no performance penalty whatsoever for all of this economy. It is faster than the car it replaces. A lot faster. Don't forget the vastly upgraded available technology: improved iDrive interface/navi, 8-speed automatic, start/stop system, M adaptive suspension, HUD and so on. For nearly all 3-series buyers, the F30 is the more desirable car. |
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10-03-2012, 03:47 PM | #40 | |
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but i hear what you're saying
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10-03-2012, 03:50 PM | #41 |
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All car magazines suck BMW's cock. BMW wins more magazine comparos and awards than any other car company in the world.
They are all in the pocket of BMW. FACT.
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10-03-2012, 06:40 PM | #42 |
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My fav is E46 looks wise. Think it is classy as hell. Love the grill being part of the hood. I have had an E36, E46, E60 and E90.
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10-03-2012, 07:20 PM | #43 | |
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Someone has to win more comparos and awards than any other company (unless there is a tie), that's simple logic. Does that mean that whoever wins the most comparos and awards must automatically be paying off the magazine staff? Could it possibly be that one company's product philosophy is more in line with the wants of the writers of an enthusiast magazine? |
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10-03-2012, 07:27 PM | #44 |
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